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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2011, 04:02 PM » |
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Just saw this and thought I would add a note. I am a huge Wings fan. Grew up in the Detroit area (now in the east coast) playing hockey including making rinks in the yard - good old dad would have me out there in 5 degree weather with a hose spraying it down. Let me tell you shoveling the driveway and THEN the yard was not a lot of fun, but worth it when you ended up skating outside all day every day. When I was a kid the Wings were awful, the Dead Things era, but I stuck with it and it paid off that's for sure. If you combine skill, stats with attitude and composure, nobody in hockey compares to Steve Yzerman. From Yzerman to Lidstrom to Datsyuk today, the Wings have a knack for finding absurdly skilled players who are at the same time, never whiney, bratty or self entitled (okay, there was Federov). I know people hate the wings and think they are "the yankees of the NHL" but they didn't just go out and write checks to win. A lot of teams, in any sport, can learn how to run an organization from the Red Wings.
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2011, 04:17 PM » |
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Deke, of course I'm an ice hockey fan. But as a wings fan how could you leave Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, and Red Kelly off your list of Red Wings who exemplify exactly what you are discussing. Even though I was a Montreal Canadiens fan, I admired those guys.
I grew up in the little town of Hearst about 1000 kilometres north-west of Toronto and have played hockey outside at -40 (that's where Celsius and Fahrenheit come together). I didn't play often when it was that cold but we had regularly scheduled league games at -25 (Celcius).
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2011, 04:42 PM » |
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Deke, of course I'm an ice hockey fan. But as a wings fan how could you leave Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, and Red Kelly off your list of Red Wings who exemplify exactly what you are discussing. Even though I was a Montreal Canadiens fan, I admired those guys....
Like me, he (probably) wasn't alive when they played.....
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2011, 04:57 PM » |
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Deke, of course I'm an ice hockey fan. But as a wings fan how could you leave Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, and Red Kelly off your list of Red Wings who exemplify exactly what you are discussing. Even though I was a Montreal Canadiens fan, I admired those guys....
Like me, he (probably) wasn't alive when they played..... Good point. And how could I not have mentioned Terry Sawchuk along with Howe, Lindsay, and Kelly? 
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2011, 09:59 AM » |
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I don't believe anyone on the planet has signed as many autographs as Gordie Howe. Even today, at any event or hockey game there is a loooonnnng line of folks during intermissions patiently waiting for him to sign his name. Always gracious. There is a story a local sportswriter shared when Gordie retired (the first time). A nurse was on her way home late at night and had a flat on one Detroit's poorly lit expressways and in a very rough part of the city. She sat in her car for a moment and was pretty terrified of even getting out. Lights came up behind her and a fellow knocked on her window to see if he could help. He changed the tire and got here on her way. She had no idea who he was and he didn't bother to tell her. She only realized it later when Gordie's face was all over the TV due to his pending retirement. She called the sportscaster to share her story. All I can say is pity the poor soul who might have tried to mug that good Samaritan. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2011, 12:37 AM » |
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I have a signed picture of Patrick Roy surrounded by Avalanche Jerseys that say Sakic (my wifes favorite) and Forsberg.. Somewhere around we also have a couple of the token miniature jersey banners they handed out when we went to see Roy's jersey retired into the rafters. Heck, once I even drove back down to the Pepsi center from a ski weekend ( and then back up again) to catch a playoff game.
Sadly, since moving (back home) to California a few years ago, we don't get Avalanche coverage unless you pay big bucks, and I'm already doing that just so I can see the Bronco's make the Raiders look good (heck is freezing over!).... and I can't cut into my festool budget!
So, yeah to Hockey (Go Avs!), but not doing a good job of keeping up with it.
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2011, 12:55 AM » |
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As a Canadian male, you feel obligated to love hockey. While I will still watch some of the playoffs some years, and some of the tournaments also, I have really disliked the level of fighting in the game. When the game matters, there's hardly any fighting, so the argument that it is a part of hockey is BS imo.
The other day I was reading in the paper that they predict that as an adult participation sport, curling will one day surpass hockey in Canada as our baby boomer population ages.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2011, 10:51 AM » |
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Of course! I get the impression that there is a pretty good contingent of hockey fans here. Growing up, I lived next door to Pierre Pilot and thought it was common for everyone to live next door to an NHL'er. My 2 year old son is also an avid fan. I have not done anything to influence him at all...  Just the boys on the street are always including him in their games. For the past 6 months it has been hockey. Now when we go skating, which is an everyday thing, he always wants his stick. As for my team... the Sens are in the basement. Hopefully we can get a decent draft pick out of the season! Brad
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2011, 11:00 AM » |
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Of course! I get the impression that there is a pretty good contingent of hockey fans here. Growing up, I lived next door to Pierre Pilot and thought it was common for everyone to live next door to an NHL'er. My 2 year old son is also an avid fan. I have not done anything to influence him at all...  Just the boys on the street are always including him in their games. For the past 6 months it has been hockey. Now when we go skating, which is an everyday thing, he always wants his stick. As for my team... the Sens are in the basement. Hopefully we can get a decent draft pick out of the season! Brad Yep being a Kiwi Canucks fan sure was pretty to watch the Sens in the basement last night as well!!  4-2 Vancouver
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2011, 11:03 AM » |
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Winning has a lot to do with people getting into sports.
When I was a kid I loved hockey, Chicago Blackhawks. We use to play in the back yard(well ally) because it froze over every year and we could skate on it.
I went into my sons room a couple of months ago and saw a Black Hawks poster, I never even knew he liked hockey. I guess once Chicago started winning he got into it and now has gone to a few games and knows all the players etc.
He wants to play, but can't. Three of my kids are excluded from contact sports for health reasons and that sucks! Baseball and Basketball are considered contact as well as soccer. I feel so bad they can not participate.
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2011, 12:28 PM » |
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The other day I was reading in the paper that they predict that as an adult participation sport, curling will one day surpass hockey in Canada as our baby boomer population ages.
Get out of town!!! No way LOL. I love hockey and watch way too much of it. Need a TV in my shop or something I can hang around my neck so I can watch games while I work. I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck. I grew up on the prairies where everyone curls and bonspiels are held every second weekend so it is very popular and a great community builder. Just don't think it will surpass hockey in Canada Dan Clermont
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2011, 12:32 PM » |
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NJ Devils fan and season ticket holder along with my brother. Both my girls are hockey fans, do not call them puck bunnies! They hate that saying, they know the game better than some guys out there and get mad when they hear people talking hockey that have no clue about the game.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2011, 12:36 PM » |
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I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck.
Curling may be fun but I have a hard time thinking of it as a sport anymore than I could think of bowling, shuffleboard or darts as sports. I love playing hockey but I don't get much enjoyment from watching it. I much prefer watching the NFL or NBA to the NHL.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2011, 12:48 PM » |
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NJ Devils fan and season ticket holder along with my brother. Both my girls are hockey fans, do not call them puck bunnies! They hate that saying, they know the game better than some guys out there and get mad when they hear people talking hockey that have no clue about the game.Lets GO DEVILS! Don't count us out yet!! LOL....
You mean like: the NBC announcers?
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2011, 12:48 PM » |
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The other day I was reading in the paper that they predict that as an adult participation sport, curling will one day surpass hockey in Canada as our baby boomer population ages.
Get out of town!!! No way LOL. I love hockey and watch way too much of it. Need a TV in my shop or something I can hang around my neck so I can watch games while I work. I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck. I grew up on the prairies where everyone curls and bonspiels are held every second weekend so it is very popular and a great community builder. Just don't think it will surpass hockey in Canada Dan Clermont Dan, note that Kevin said adult participation sport not most popular sport. I expect that already more adults particiapte in curling than in ice hockey in Canada. I am quite typical of such adults, having stopped palying hockey masy yearws ago, but still curling from time to time. [/quote]
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« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2011, 12:50 PM » |
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I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck.
Curling may be fun but I have a hard time thinking of it as a sport anymore than I could think of bowling, shuffleboard or darts as sports. I love playing hockey but I don't get much enjoyment from watching it. I much prefer watching the NFL or NBA to the NHL. If you ever curled in a serious game, you would know that it is a sport.
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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2011, 01:10 PM » |
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I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck.
Curling may be fun but I have a hard time thinking of it as a sport anymore than I could think of bowling, shuffleboard or darts as sports. I love playing hockey but I don't get much enjoyment from watching it. I much prefer watching the NFL or NBA to the NHL. If you ever curled in a serious game, you would know that it is a sport. I've never curled, but it is definitely a sport imo. Admittedly, it is amazing sometimes what the sports channels try to pass off as a sport nowadays. I get annoyed when I see "Poker" being colour coded in whatever TV listing I may be using as a "sport", and although I love darts, I know it's not a sport either. Now bowling is hardly a parlour game. Why wouldn't that be a sport? I could argue that soccer (or football as it's known over the pond) is not a sport, but a form of acting rather than a sport as it has evolved over the last few decades. Just can't watch a "sport" with so much diving and mama crying any moreso than watching a sport with excessive levels of uneccesary violence, such as the fighting in hockey. At least in hockey, when the games matter such as in the playoffs, the fighting minimizes whereas in soccer, the bigger the game, the "sport" diminishes to the "acting" on the pitch.
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2011, 01:43 PM » |
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Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. If archery is a sport and bowling is a sport and golfing is a sport, how the heck can darts not be a sport. Darts is a sport. Darts actually takes physical eye hand coordination more than is needed for everyday life. Sport: A sport is an organized, competitive, entertaining, and skillful activity requiring commitment, strategy, and fair play, in which a winner can be defined by objective means. It is governed by a set of rules or customs. In my mind Curling is definitely a sport.  Darts is definitely a sport(as much as golfing or bowling are).  Cards and board games are classified as a Mind Sports.
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2011, 01:45 PM » |
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As a young teenager watching McCarty whip on lemeiux made me a fan forever, along with the smooth as silk Stevey Y was always a great watch. My moms family lives in Canada And obviously had an influance in my growing up loving the game. When I was little and started skating with those 2 bladed skates on the pond, we had 2 right handed stick and my older bros got those, I got the lefty stick, I'm not lefty at anything but hockey, played all through high school that way to. Oh ya, GO WINGS
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2011, 01:58 PM » |
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......I like curling and think it is an easier sport for all people to play as you don't need to know how to skate or handle a puck.....
Now we know why you like curling. 
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« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2011, 02:45 PM » |
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If you ever curled in a serious game, you would know that it is a sport.
Leaving the rather arrogant assumption that I have never curled slide, why is that ? Because curling can be difficult ? Because it can be tiring ? As far as I am concerned, any activity where at the recreational level alcohol consumption is considered almost mandatory is not a sport. I would submit that any criteria that would classify curling as sport would also so classify darts, shuffleboard, foosball, marbles, "Pop-a-shot", pinball, various card games like "Speed" and any number of video games. All of these meet another poster's advanced definition of sport requiring "physical exertion" and are governed by a set of rules. Does this mean "Guitar Hero" is a sport ? How about speed-eating ? Just because an activity may be tiring (though judging by the profiles of many championship curlers, an athletic physique is not a determining prerequisite), and difficult to achieve at the highest level does not - IMHO - make it a sport.
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« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2011, 03:26 PM » |
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Haven't checked this thread in months! Frank, of course I know of Howe, Sawchuck, Lindsay... I just didn't want to rub it in. People hate the Wings, for their success, enough as it is.  Still, even those all those retired numbers hang at the Joe, it is kind of hard to pick them out from all those banners... I of course, also know of "Rocket Richard" though way before my time. There was a movie about him a little while ago. It wasn't bad as hockey movies go. Did you see it? I think it was called, "The Rocket." Here it is:
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