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Offline Phil Beckley

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Baseball - Please explain to me
« on: November 06, 2014, 07:20 PM »
Hi
 In the interest of anglo American relationships can one of our members please explian how Baseball is played?
 Baseball is a game i have seen only a few times on T.V but it seems that the atmosphere is fantastic, those who support it are dedicated, fanatical, great history behind it and a great way to spend some time, any offers?
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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 08:30 PM »
Here's a good start on the game...

http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Baseball


Offline Rob Z

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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2014, 10:50 PM »
Hi Phil,

This won't really explain much, but as you learn more about baseball you will start to see why this routine by George Carlin was soooooo funny!


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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 11:50 PM »

In the US, baseball is the only sport where the defense has the ball. As a result, the majority of strategy takes place before the pitcher delivers a pitch to the batter. The strategy is based on the hitters tendencies and the pitchers capabilities.......this determines where the fielders position themselves to catch the ball. This all happens before anything happens....so learning baseball requires a bit of patience and repetition. Feel free to PM me with any questions.

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PS: RIP George Carlin, I love this bit.

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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 05:46 PM »
Ok now i am starting to pick this up........Question - Does the 'pitcher' genuinely try to out gun the guy with the bat?
 In Cricket 'sledging' is used to unsettle the batsman and in Rugby we used to just by-pass the polite language and take route one!!
Guess it brings up the question on Sportsman ship - does it exist.......

As for Baseball i will go a bit deeper and find more
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Offline Davej

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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 05:54 PM »
Phil , they just took the game of rounders and tried to make it more complicated and ' manly '  [tongue] [big grin] [big grin].
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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 06:03 PM »
Phil

The catcher typically is calling the pitches he wants to see.  He knows the stats on the batter and will call for a slider, an inside pitch, fastball, etc, depending on the strengths and weaknesses of that batter, how many runners are on base, score, where they are in the lineup, etc.  A pitcher may choose to 'brush back' the batter by pitching inside (closer to the batter) to 'rattle' them a bit and make them a bit more tentative.  It's a mind game as much as a physical game.

Baseball truly is a game of statistics.  There are so many numbers to track and the best players and coaches take advantage real knowledge of the numbers.  Moneyball was a great book and movie on the statistics behind baseball and a knowledge of how to build a team based on available money, available talent and the numbers behind the game.  Worth a watch if you want to really get into the game.

neil


Offline Rob Z

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Re: Baseball - Please explain to me
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 12:57 AM »
Hi Phil

You asked if the pitcher is trying to outgun the batter.....the answer is:  only sometimes! 

Some pitchers throw fastballs for most of their pitches while other pitchers  rarely throw fastballs .  But it should be noted that a fastball isn't always "fast".  What I mean by that is that the speed of a pitch, and whether or not it's a fastball, is based on relative comparisons.  These relative comparisons aren't made from pitcher-to-pitcher; rather, the comparisons of pitch speeds are important within the repertoire of pitches that a particular pitcher uses during the game. 

So, a pitcher like Aroldis Chapman has a "fast fastball" (100-104 mph), while a pitcher like Jamie Moyer (recently retired) had a "very slow" fastball (80 mph). Flamethrowers like Chapman are indeed trying to outgun a batter.  There are quite a few bazooka-arm pitchers in MLB, and they do the same thing as Chapman. But there are a lot of pitchers who are very successful because they fool the batter into thinking one type of pitch is on its way to the plate when it is actually another type of pitch. Or, these pitchers can make the ball "break", which means they can do what the guys do in cricket and put such a spin on the ball that it will curve or slide or jump or drop or any number of other things that really seem to be impossible.

Good pitchers beat the batters because they win the mind game that goes on with every pitch.  One of my favorite pitchers was Greg Maddux (now retired).  All the players said the same thing about him: that he always seemed to know what you (the batter ) were expecting, and then he would pitch the opposite of what you were expecting.

Here is a short video to show you some of the types of pitches.  When you see the pitches go into the dirt, that is being done on purpose (not because the pitcher has lost control).  The batters are swinging on those pitches because they are seeing a delivery by the pitcher that makes them think a higher-up pitch is on the way.  By the time they start swinging the bat  the ball is in the dirt and there isn't anything that can be done with it.

You'll also see a pitch called  a change up.  This is a pitch where the pitcher does everything the same as with his fastball delivery, but because of the grip on the ball  the velocity is 5-8 mph less than what the batter thinks is coming his way.  A good change up pitcher will almost always make even the best batter look like a not-so-good batter.

If you're still interested, I'm sure all of us here can keep feeding information to you about our beloved version of 'Rounders'.  ;D  Just ask away....