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Offline 4nh13

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Worldcup 2014
« on: June 08, 2014, 08:58 AM »
The tournament's gonna begin. Which country you think will be the champion?

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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 08:58 AM »
1 vote for Germany

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 09:36 AM »
I know who won't win, England  [big grin]

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 09:43 AM »


We are optimistically the dark horse down here - Dreaming On!!  [popcorn]
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 10:36 AM »
I know who won't win, England  [big grin]

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Nope, get in line behind USA.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 02:30 PM »
Scolari reckons Argentina v Brazil in the final. I'd be happy with that. There are quite a few times that the host nation has won. And a European team have never won in South America I think.
I predict England will play poorly and scrape through by some good fortune then play the game of their lives and go out by some bad fortune. It always seems the way.

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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 03:34 PM »
Being the host nation, I think Brasil has a good chance. After all, they're playing with a 12th man, and that guy is crazy! I guess the final will probably be Brasil against a European country like Germany, Spain or The Netherlands.

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 03:47 PM »
I would pick Brazil by default, they will make the final and the other team they are supposed to play in the finals will probably be taken hostage.  It will be a quick tourney for the USA.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 04:20 PM »
I wonder if I will ever see The Netherlands win a World Cup in my lifetime. The best team to have never won it all...

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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2014, 06:46 PM »
I wonder if I will ever see The Netherlands win a World Cup in my lifetime. The best team to have never won it all...

I wonder too. I'm not betting on it.

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2014, 07:23 PM »
I m for Uruguay
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2014, 11:16 PM »
1 vote for Germany
Plus 1 for Germany, they seem to handle the pressure of the big cups well.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 05:13 PM »
I must say, I truly enjoyed watching The Netherlands destroy Spain in today's match...

Not a bad way to start this World Cup.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 05:21 PM »
Yes a bit of a stuffing could have been more

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 05:43 PM »
ORANGE!!!!!

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If it ain't gonna be the land of Hot Dogs, Baseball, and Apple Pie... then I'm for the Dutch!

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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 06:02 PM »
Oranje! Oranje! Oranje!


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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 06:04 PM »
Well, that was fun to watch.  [thumbs up]

Pretty bizarre, such a trashing. Who would 'av thunk it....

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2014, 06:10 PM »
Festool green and Nederlands Oranje... I am feeling right at home now...

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2014, 06:13 PM »
I didn't see any of the game but that had to feel good for the Dutch!  Oranje!!  That's a big win.
I'm as Dutch as they make em, so thats my pick for the cup.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2014, 06:25 PM »
My heritage is French/German but I lived in Amsterdam for a couple of years while working in Europe.

The people of Nederland are friendly like Texans. It's wonderful to see such a small country full of such nice people do so well on any world stage.

It doesn't hurt that they are so good at Futbal...


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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2014, 06:50 PM »
Shouldn't that be Wup, Holland, Wup?
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2014, 07:31 PM »
I was watching on Spanish (Texican) language TV with my wife after it was 3-1. The last 3 scores happened pretty quickly. I only saw the third score in replay.

Plus, I only know enough Dutch to be polite, order in restaurants/bars, and read some signs. I don't remember "Wup"?

I used to get these letters about Utilities or weird banking/tax/government things and they had all of these run-on words that were very difficult to figure out. I normally just took things to work and asked our secretary, (who was super proficient in at least 6 languages), to decipher them for me. The Dutch dictionary was about 3 times as big as an unabridged English dictionary.

I asked our secretary why and it made perfect sense when she pointed out that Germanic cultures just kept making more combo-words and they were continually adopted as part of the official dictionaries. She said the dictionary just grew and grew and grew.


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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2014, 08:00 PM »
Shouldn't that be Wup, Holland, Wup?

I think that you might be referring to "Hup Holland Hup"...

Roughly translated it means something like "Go Holland Go" and it comes from a Dutch "voetbal lied" (soccer song) that was written a couple of years after the end of World War II.

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2014, 08:03 PM »
It looked like the "Orange Machine" was back today!  That score could have been a lot more lopsided at the end [eek]  I watched the first half then went out to the shop putting the game on my recorder - what a surprise!

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2014, 03:53 AM »
Hi

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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2014, 04:40 AM »
I used to get these letters about Utilities or weird banking/tax/government things and they had all of these run-on words that were very difficult to figure out.

Meh, even I don't understand them.  [smile]

The Dutch dictionary was about 3 times as big as an unabridged English dictionary.

I asked our secretary why and it made perfect sense when she pointed out that Germanic cultures just kept making more combo-words and they were continually adopted as part of the official dictionaries. She said the dictionary just grew and grew and grew.

We use combo words, yes, but when you look at the size of the language, Dutch has about 25.000 words, and English 75.000. When we watch TV, I am often asked to translate an english  word and I can't, because there's no dutch equivalent, so I can only describe it.


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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2014, 04:49 AM »
Shouldn't that be Wup, Holland, Wup?

I think that you might be referring to "Hup Holland Hup"...

Roughly translated it means something like "Go Holland Go" and it comes from a Dutch "voetbal lied" (soccer song) that was written a couple of years after the end of World War II.
Could be - I just heard that alot in Germany when the world cup was there some years ago. Lots of very rowdy and loud people in bright orange having a ball on the streets and hollering something that sounded like Wup, Holland, Wup, but it could be just as well Hup  [big grin]
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2014, 09:31 AM »
U.S.A. BEATS GHANA!!!!!

CURRENTLY IN SECOND PLACE OVERALL!!.

U.S.A.!!!!  U.S.A.!!!! U.S.A.!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2014, 11:32 AM »
As pretty much in every World Cup Germany will advance at least to the semi final and potential final. After that it's everybody's guess.

I think the final is gonna be Germany vs Brazil.

Happy that both Germany and USA won yesterday. Important wins so higher likelihood for both teams to advance to the sudden death rounds...

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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2014, 02:23 PM »

We use combo words, yes, but when you look at the size of the language, Dutch has about 25.000 words, and English 75.000. When we watch TV, I am often asked to translate an english  word and I can't, because there's no dutch equivalent, so I can only describe it.


I find that surprising, since - in my experience - the average TV program here doesn't use more than a few hundred words. If I recall correctly, the shows are targeted at a seventh grade education.

And no, I do not watch much TV.
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2014, 03:36 PM »
Merriam Webster estimates that there are around 1 million words in the English language and the director of the Dutch institute of Lexicality estimates more than 5 million words are used in Dutch.

That kind of supports our former secretary's assertion. She had a stack of 4 Dutch dictionaries that were each about the size of an unabridged dictionary of the English language.


Now, back to futbal...

Does anyone know how the officials and the players from so many different countries with so many different languages communicate? Is it all by signals?


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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2014, 03:58 PM »
Merriam Webster estimates that there are around 1 million words in the English language and the director of the Dutch institute of Lexicality estimates more than 5 million words are used in Dutch.

That kind of supports our former secretary's assertion. She had a stack of 4 Dutch dictionaries that were each about the size of an unabridged dictionary of the English language.


Now, back to futbal...

Does anyone know how the officials and the players from so many different countries with so many different languages communicate? Is it all by signals?


Tom


Not sure about that Tom, the last printed edition of the Oxford English Dictionary was 20 volumes long, containing 22000 pages, took up four feet of shelf space and weighed about 150 lbs!

Usually, the referee and linesmen are from the same country. For example, on Thursday, the match between England and Uruguay is to be refereed by a Spaniard and his two linesmen are also Spanish. You can bet they speak good English as well as Spanish (obviously), so as to be able to communicate to the English players and the Uruguayans.

If the language is less well-spoken English is used as the lingua franca.

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2014, 06:45 PM »
Merriam Webster estimates that there are around 1 million words in the English language and the director of the Dutch institute of Lexicality estimates more than 5 million words are used in Dutch.

The 75.000 vs 25.000 number was what my old english teacher told us in class. Seems it's a bit off. Merriam Webster estimates 1.000.000 for english, the Dutch equivalent De Dikke Van Dale has 240.000 words. No way Dutch has 5 million words. English has 500+ million contributers, Dutch only 25 million. And English doesn't change over time. Anybody who knows English can still read Shakespeare from 400 years ago. You don't have to try that with Dutch, it's a completely different language.  

But I don't want to go off on a word debate tangent.

Does anyone know how the officials and the players from so many different countries with so many different languages communicate? Is it all by signals?

Lots of communication is done in English. Football is a very international community, with players from all countries playing for clubs in other countries. The top clubs scout their players all over the world. A common interface is needed and English fits the bill just fine.

But in the field, there's actually not much talking needed. The most important signal is the referee's whistle. All the players have their eyes on the ball, so when the whistle goes, they mostly know what it's about. If they want to be sure, they look at the referee and he signals with his hand who gets the free kick. Two line referee's also signal with their flags. Once you know the (simpe) rules, it's easy to understand what's going on.

Only time when talking plays a role in the game is when players want to protest a decision of the referee. Which, of course, is pointless anyway.  

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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2014, 09:42 PM »
As a ex USSf ref I did not have the language problem, however, most fouls are indicated by hand signals.  Holding by a hand-grip motion, off-sides by a waving back and forth with the elbow locked, high boot by vertical hand rise and so forth.  Technically refs are not required to explain calls but are taught to signal to reduce confusion...that being said it does not elimination controversy or second guessing by everyone from players to coaches to spectators.  Referees are taught to try and be in the best position to see play but that implies crystal ball foresight... good luck! 

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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2014, 10:57 PM »
The refs are all language challenged. (PC designation) [big grin]

My German Landlord's son is a FIFA referee....and can't speak a word of English. That being said, he communicates with the language of flags! [scared]

You know... if the USA somehow performed a miracle and won the World Cup, soccer would become the fastest growing sport in the States!

Right now, it's Curling! [blink]

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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014, 11:05 PM »
The refs are all language challenged. (PC designation) [big grin]

My German Landlord's son is a FIFA referee....and can't speak a word of English. That being said, he communicates with the language of flags! [scared]

You know... if the USA somehow performed a miracle and won the World Cup, soccer would become the fastest growing sport in the States!

Right now, it's Curling! [blink]

Cheers,

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Frank, don't hold your breath - it will be many years before the USA wins the World Cup since so many of our children get into other sports.

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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2014, 11:11 PM »
The refs are all language challenged. (PC designation) [big grin]

My German Landlord's son is a FIFA referee....and can't speak a word of English. That being said, he communicates with the language of flags! [scared]

You know... if the USA somehow performed a miracle and won the World Cup, soccer would become the fastest growing sport in the States!

Right now, it's Curling! [blink]

Cheers,

Frank

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I would have to respectfully disagree that soccer would become the fastest growing sport.  Until we produce a bonafide star like Messi or Neymar or Rinaldo, that soccer will lag behind the other sports.  The MLS has seen attendance growth, but until they are financially on another level the rapid ascension of the sport won't happen.  Case in point, the MLS just signed a new $90 million dollar TV deal, the last NFL deal was $23 Billion and the new NBA deal will be multiple billions.

When I pick my son up from school, all I see is foreign jerseys, and asking some kids who they want to win the World Cup, I don't think I have got a US vote yet.
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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2014, 11:15 PM »
Grrrrr! [mad]

You all are defeatists! [crying]

Can't you all remember the "Miracle on Ice"? Dang cynics! [wink]

I feel about winning the World Cup as I do about Winning the Lottery. I still buy tickets every week...just in case! [tongue]

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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2014, 11:17 PM »
San Antonio just won the Basketball title, again, and I think they played both the Heat and the officials to win it.

Anything can happen...

USA has 3 points after only 1 game - Brazil has only 4 points after 2 games - Oops!

Who knows?


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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2014, 11:26 PM »
I would like to see the US win the World Cup.  If we could make it to the semi finals that would be huge.  As hard as it is for me to admit, I am actually watching the matches. 

Tom, I am not a basketball fan, but it loved watching the beat down the spurs put on the heat. 
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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2014, 12:40 AM »
Guys,

I coached soccer for years and when the kids get to 13 or 14 years old, they migrate to football or baseball the sports in America that pay big dollars to the stars.  That is just the way it is in this country, I have lost my most athletic stars after winning the California and Western States Championships in soccer to the more glorious sports. 

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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2014, 10:22 AM »
Guys,

I coached soccer for years and when the kids get to 13 or 14 years old, they migrate to football or baseball the sports in America that pay big dollars to the stars.  That is just the way it is in this country, I have lost my most athletic stars after winning the California and Western States Championships in soccer to the more glorious sports. 

Jack

Jack, I couldn't agree more.  The MLS just doesn't pay atheletes, unless you were a star in Europe on the back end of a career.  David Beckham?  I was watching the Portugal-Germany game and they mentioned that Rinaldo is paid $30 million a year, and if his club buys his contract out, he would get a ridiculous amount of money, they said close to a Billion (not sure if that is accurate).  The highest paid player in MLS is making $4.35 million, and the league minimum is $35K.  Baseball, Basketball, Football and hockey all make significantly more money at the league minimum.

Another factor is that international players in baseball, basketball and hockey want to come here to play, but with soccer you have to go to Europe or other places to compete against the best.
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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2014, 02:11 PM »
OK... gotta disagree with y'all!  Please visit the following link. Your numbers are Waaaayyyyy out of line! [huh]

A boon in soccer in the USA would follow other sports that have taken the limelight elsewhere to become big hits here. Soccer would follow if Americans thought they had a chance against the world. My 2 cents.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45ehjl/1-cristiano-ronaldo-portugal/

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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2014, 02:15 PM »
Oranje!


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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2014, 02:36 PM »
Phew, that was a tough match! The Ozzies simply won't quit, kept on fighting till the end. But it did make the game very intense and enjoyable to watch. Glad we still came out on top, but it very well could have been different.

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« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2014, 05:27 PM »


 Alex, I wish I could have seen you biting your nails!  [big grin]

This article is in this morning's paper. Digital link.

http://www.theage.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/-zse00.html

Still the outcome was to be expected, we are in essence using the Cup to build up an inexperienced young side for the next one.

Congratulations Netherlands.
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« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2014, 05:31 PM »
Gefeliciteerd! ORANJE!

Maar alleen als de USA niet wint de hele zaak!


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« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2014, 05:44 PM »
OK... gotta disagree with y'all!  Please visit the following link. Your numbers are Waaaayyyyy out of line! [huh]

A boon in soccer in the USA would follow other sports that have taken the limelight elsewhere to become big hits here. Soccer would follow if Americans thought they had a chance against the world. My 2 cents.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45ehjl/1-cristiano-ronaldo-portugal/

Cheers,

Frank

Frank,

I looked at the link, and I didn't see any Americans in that Forbes article.  I even mentioned in my first post my numbers may not be accurate, that was what the commentator mentioned during the Germany vs. Portugal game.  The MLS isn't paying that money to players, I am not talking endorsements.  The highest paid MLS player is Thierry Henry at $4.35 million, didn't he make his name in Europe, just like Beckham?   With what players are making in the MLS the best will still go to Europe, better pay and they actually care about the sport.  Just my opinion.

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« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2014, 06:47 PM »
OK... gotta disagree with y'all!  Please visit the following link. Your numbers are Waaaayyyyy out of line! [huh]

A boon in soccer in the USA would follow other sports that have taken the limelight elsewhere to become big hits here. Soccer would follow if Americans thought they had a chance against the world. My 2 cents.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45ehjl/1-cristiano-ronaldo-portugal/

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« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2014, 11:05 PM »
The USSA is trying their best to promote soccer (football) in America but the dollars just don't add up.  The number of sports already established in the USA is staggering with golf paying the winner over 1million dollars every week.  Heck, minor league baseball pays more than most MLS players with the exception of the (over the hill named players from abroad).  It will be a long time if ever if the culture in the USA accepts Soccer as a main stream sport.  Sad, but true [sad]

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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2014, 04:09 AM »
It will be a long time if ever if the culture in the USA accepts Soccer as a main stream sport.  Sad, but true [sad]

I think the US is well on its way already.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jefffick/2014/06/16/u-s-soccer-fans-biggest-buyers-of-world-cup-tickets-outside-brazil/

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« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2014, 11:45 AM »
Alex,

I don't dispute that watching soccer in the USA has grown greatly over the past 40 years but, that doesn't motivate the young athlete who turns from soccer to baseball (or other sports) at the age of 10 - 12 years old.  As a top tier soccer coach years back, it was so sad to lose your best players to the more popular (and highest paying) sports. 

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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2014, 01:21 PM »
The Russians are a bit timid not the usual aggressive annexing that they're known for. ;)

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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2014, 04:44 AM »
Oh man, what a bummer that was for the US, Portugal levels in the last 20 seconds. Would have been a deserved win for the US, they played very well, especially the second half.

I found it odd the ref let the game go on for 5 extra minutes, should have stopped 2-3 minutes earlier and the US would have a well deserved win, and on to the next round.

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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2014, 06:07 AM »
Incidentally, the game set the record for the largest US audience for a national US sports team. (The superbowl etc are not national team events.)


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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2014, 09:25 PM »
Germany vs US tomorrow at noon. I think I'll remain neutral in my predictions.  [unsure]

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« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2014, 09:32 PM »
Until then, UVA down by 1 in the top of the fourth at the College World Series.
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« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2014, 09:36 PM »
Until then, UVA down by 1 in the top of the fourth at the College World Series.

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« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2014, 11:21 PM »
Not looking good UVA nation!!

Prove me wrong!!!!!!!
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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2014, 12:01 AM »
Boo!!!!!
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« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2014, 12:43 AM »
Germany vs US tomorrow at noon. I think I'll remain neutral in my predictions.  [unsure]

Very politically correct!  Keep up the good work.


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« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2014, 01:35 AM »
As a proud Wahoo, I was sorely disappointed in the outcome of tonight's CWS championship.  Great team (the best in the nation this year), great coach, great university---but baseball is a particularly cruel game, and Vandy won it tonight.

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« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2014, 10:48 AM »
So do we play for the tie or do we show everyone we are winners and go of the win
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« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2014, 12:53 PM »
USA 0 - 0 Germany, half time.

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« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2014, 12:55 PM »
I think Germany and USA should just not come back out. They would both advance...


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« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2014, 12:59 PM »
So do we play for the tie or do we show everyone we are winners and go of the win

Ummmm. We go for it.

Because of the way that the Ghana vs Portugal game is going, we would need to lose by 5 goals to not advance.

If we go for it and beat Germany, I assume the there will be an impromptu Festool price increase!!  :)
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« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2014, 01:57 PM »
Well, the US almost scored right there at the end. But, Germany won 1-0. At least the US will advance.

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« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2014, 05:46 PM »
 ;D So, no price increase, eh?

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« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2014, 06:29 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2014, 07:54 PM »
Yes the USA will advance and it is quite an accomplishment making the final 16.

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« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2014, 08:42 AM »
See you on tuesday Yanks! :)
Let's hope we get to see a fair game with lots of chances and goals for both sides :)
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« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2014, 10:52 AM »
It would be nice to let the players on the field decide the game and not the referees.  I'm looking forward to a good game.

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« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2014, 06:46 PM »
ORANJE!!!!!!

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« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2014, 07:22 PM »
Great game today Netherlands vs Mexico.  I don't think Costa Rico will be much of a challenge even though they held off a terrible Greek team today with 10 men for almost 50 minutes.

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« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2014, 08:33 PM »
Good games today. Looking forward to the US game though.
Wonder if Tim is related to the Belgian coach..?  ???

Also go Oranje!
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« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2014, 08:39 PM »
Germany looked sluggish today on attack.  I'm glad they won but, it sure was a cliff hanger [wink]

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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2014, 08:46 PM »
USA!   USA!   USA!


Oranje!   Oranje!   Oranje!



Oh, OK...  Go France/Allemagne!
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I agree with you, Jack. Allemange looked like they were out to lunch during the few plays that I saw early. They seem to almost have a plan of wearing out their opponent and then attacking hard at the end when they sense weakness. It's working so far if that is what they are doing?


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« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2014, 01:07 AM »
Tom,

Perhaps that was their plan but, they continued to play the ball up the middle and try just slant attacks and a few cross attacks.  Finally in overtime they started to take on the fullbacks one on one to create depth behind the defense and then they had some great scoring opportunities.  I love soccer played at this level [big grin]

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« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2014, 01:25 AM »
Jack,

You know the game so much better than I that it's almost silly...

I've only played with others that really didn't know how, but it was still very fun.

I can appreciate how skilled these teams are and how difficult it is...


I'd like to see USA & Oranje in the final.


We'll see, anything kan...


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« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2014, 07:37 AM »
Jack,

You know the game so much better than I that it's almost silly...

I've only played with others that really didn't know how, but it was still very fun.

I can appreciate how skilled these teams are and how difficult it is...


I'd like to see USA & Oranje in the final.


We'll see, anything kan...


Tom

The US and the Netherlands would meet in the semi-final if they win their next games.

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« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2014, 09:19 AM »
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« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2014, 10:09 AM »
Jack,

You know the game so much better than I that it's almost silly...

I've only played with others that really didn't know how, but it was still very fun.

I can appreciate how skilled these teams are and how difficult it is...


I'd like to see USA & Oranje in the final.


We'll see, anything kan...


Tom

The US and the Netherlands would meet in the semi-final if they win their next games.


Oops! I guess not anything kan...


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« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2014, 11:53 AM »
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« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2014, 05:45 PM »
Watching the game right now, USA vs Belgium. That right foward Yedlin is on fire, he totally owns his defender and plays impressively. Too bad USA seems to lack people in front who can finish it. I see no goalgetter mentality there. The Belgians seems to have the same lack though they do have the upperhand in general. Keeper Howard is doing a good job and keeping America in the race.  

The commenter said Yedlin is only 20, I tell you, he's going to be big.

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« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2014, 05:57 PM »
0-0
Headed into overtime!

Cummmooonnnnn USA!!!
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« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2014, 06:02 PM »
NOooooooooooooooooooo!!!! 

Belgium 1-0 in extra time right out the gate.

USA... GET IT BACK!!!
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« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2014, 06:58 PM »
Brilliant job by USA, great effort and it's a shame that they didn't quite make it.
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« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2014, 07:19 PM »
The USA gave it their all, good showing [smile]  We'll keep getting better as the years go on and the TV audience watching was impressive!

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« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2014, 08:00 PM »
Well, as a Belgian Festool fan I have been reading many posts on the FOG for quite some time and I've learned a lot that a I never could have learned anywhere else.
I never thought my first post on the FOG would be about soccer, but here we are.
We, Belgium, our national soccer team, from a country the size of your smallest member-states,  just outflanked, outran and outperformed the USA national soccer team in any way you can think. It was a victory well deserved by our notional team!
Grtz,
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« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2014, 08:07 PM »
Well, as a Belgian Festool fan I have been reading many posts on the FOG for quite some time and I've learned a lot that a I never could have learned anywhere else.
I never thought my first post on the FOG would be about soccer, but here we are.
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« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2014, 08:08 PM »
Sigh..... USA! USA! USA USA!USA.......   Oh well, maybe next time. [sad]

But in the meantime.....


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« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2014, 08:20 PM »
Well, as a Belgian Festool fan I have been reading many posts on the FOG for quite some time and I've learned a lot that a I never could have learned anywhere else.
I never thought my first post on the FOG would be about soccer, but here we are.
We, Belgium, our national soccer team, from a country the size of your smallest member-states,  just outflanked, outran and outperformed the USA national soccer team in any way you can think. It was a victory well deserved by our notional team!
Grtz,
Kris


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« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2014, 08:36 PM »
You’re right  about your goalie, Tinker, and I can imagine the US soccer team becoming a world team in not a very far future. I read somewhere that in the US 16 million kids are training in the youth soccer leagues. Belgium has about  11 million inhabitants as a country. Sooner or later this has to show up in the figures.

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« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2014, 06:30 PM »
You’re right  about your goalie, Tinker, and I can imagine the US soccer team becoming a world team in not a very far future. I read somewhere that in the US 16 million kids are training in the youth soccer leagues. Belgium has about  11 million inhabitants as a country. Sooner or later this has to show up in the figures.

Yes but, when they reach 12 years old most quit soccer and join the baseball, basketball or American Football leagues.

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« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2014, 06:52 PM »
You’re right  about your goalie, Tinker, and I can imagine the US soccer team becoming a world team in not a very far future. I read somewhere that in the US 16 million kids are training in the youth soccer leagues. Belgium has about  11 million inhabitants as a country. Sooner or later this has to show up in the figures.

Krisberden,
30 to 40 years ago, soccer suddenly became popular with kids in this country.  It sort of had something to do with a guy named Pele.  My kids started playing at age 7 and 9 and I got involved in coaching.  I knew diddely about soccer but I also did not appreciate that kids did not have all of the space to play unsupervised as I had growing up.  There were a lot of others the same as me with the same, or less, experience.  Most of us tried to keep it fun.  I coached for about ten years and probably never actually able to show any of “my kids” a thing about skills.  My favorite line from beginning to end was, “If you guys can’t play this game any better than I, you are in deep trouble.” 

We were fortunate to have a few volunteers with some skills and between all of us, a few of our kids ended up playing in colleges.  A couple ended up coaching professionally and one, who I had somehow had a hand in teaching him something, ended up playing in the Olympics and coached a couple of pro teams.  Kids today are learning from a lot of guys and girls who’s first coaches knew no more than I had known. 

Our highschool coach had grown up in Portugal.  He often told me that when kids start playing by themselves and without all the supervision they would then start showing up on a world stage.  My wife is German.  On one of our visits to her family in a small village about 30 km south of Studtgart, I recall seeing a group of six teenagers playing keepaway with a soccer ball.  They were kicking the ball around in a small area, never touching with their hands or letting the ball touch the ground.  The circle they were playing in was probably 20 to 25 feet in diameter with very well marked perimeter.  You see, they were playing in the center of a traffic rotary with heavy traffic from all four directions.  I watched in amazement as those kids were acting as if totally unaware of the traffic.  I watched for maybe ten minutes;  the ball never stopped moving.  The ball never went “out of bounds” and the boys were not only showing total control of the ball, but they were banging into each other as if out on a wide pitch. 

I am sure those six young lads were not exceptions in the skills area.  I told my friend about what I had seen.  He told me that was not exceptional in Europe.  When our kids can develpoe skills at such a level, we will become competitive with the Europeans and South Americans. 

Hey, I am waiting for the girls turn in a couple of years.  I had the most fun coaching them.  I even had the good fortune to have coached against one of the best in the world.  I “hated” her when I was coaching my girls.  She absolutely killed us. One time, we held her to one goal and thought we were absolutely great. But later on, I got to cheer her as she played in more international games (they call it “caps”) than any other girl >>> or guy<<< and she was one of the best for years. Her teams won a couple of Olympics as well as world Championships. When she was younger, she even played against some of my boys teams.  She killed us then as well.  She was quite successful against you Europeans and everybody else in the world as well.  Our girls team is still taking no prisoners.   [poke]
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« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2014, 10:18 AM »
I wonder if I will ever see The Netherlands win a World Cup in my lifetime. The best team to have never won it all...

I wonder too. I'm not betting on it.

Could this be the year???

Two more wins, just two more wins...

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« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2014, 02:48 PM »
Well Cor, here's hoping.  [smile]

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« Reply #97 on: July 06, 2014, 07:37 PM »
I'd like to see the Netherlands team advance to the finals but, they need to be more creative on offense.  They waisted so much possession to the offside trap that they almost lost the game in one of the Costa Rico breakaways.

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« Reply #98 on: July 08, 2014, 05:57 PM »
Does the German Team help with the development of Festool Drills?  They completely drilled Brazil.  

Hopefully come Sunday Festool Germany will be so happy they won the World Cup, maybe they will allow some items to become available in NA.
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« Reply #99 on: July 10, 2014, 06:40 AM »
Oh well...

The end of the world as we know it. [crying]

USA - Gone
Netherlands - Gone
Nigeria - Gone
Brazil - Destroyed.

World Cup - Basically over... who cares about the remaining two?

MEH!!!! [mad]

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« Reply #100 on: July 10, 2014, 10:32 AM »
My best childhood friends family were immigrants from Argentina, his dad was the most rabid soccer fan I've known. Though he's now gone from this life I hope for his sake Argentina wins, I remember his extreme elation when they won in the 70's and I can imagine his joy again. RIP Mr. Troisi
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« Reply #101 on: July 10, 2014, 05:51 PM »
My wife has been visiting our daughter in Arlington for this past week.  She will be home by game time Sunday.  I am checking all of my hearing protectors  ::) to be sure they are in working order  [scared].  All glass ware will be stored well away from sound waves.  Windows boarded.  Neighbors already warned.  She can get just a tad loud when watching a soccer game (or U-conn women's basketball).
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« Reply #102 on: July 10, 2014, 09:47 PM »
Doh!  My Oranje! Too bad the game looked slow. Live by the pk die by the pk.... [crying]

guess I'm rooting for Deutchland.!
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« Reply #103 on: July 12, 2014, 06:49 PM »
Doh!  My Oranje! Too bad the game looked slow. Live by the pk die by the pk.... [crying]

guess I'm rooting for Deutchland.!

They said they didn't care about 3rd place.  Evidently they cared about keeping Brazil out of 3rd place.
It was the first time in 74 years that Brazil has lost 2 in a row on home ground at any level.  That was an amazing run.
The Orange can be proud.

I'm looking forward to tomorrows game.  I value my life so i will be rooting for Deutchland team.
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2014, 07:14 PM »
Great game today - Go Germany Tomorrow!

Jack

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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2014, 07:51 PM »
Meh, 3rd place. Not bad when you actually think about it, 3rd of 32. But still totally worthless when you got your mind set on the final. Too bad the game against Argentina was utter crap.

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« Reply #106 on: July 13, 2014, 04:09 AM »
Yeah, They seemed to be playing "Not to Lose" in that game.  They looked better >>> and tougher<<< in their game against Brazil.  I guess they finally decided pi's could be a bit risky.

I have watched a couple of Germany's games.  The game against Algeria was very interesting in the way it was played and perhaps a hint of what was to come.  In that game, the Germans were very well organized and they were building all over the field.  They seemed to know where they were going every time they the ball. Every attack always involved almost every player and no attack was carried out by long runs, but passes with triangles all over the field.  No player was acting alone.  The Algerians were playing like a bunch of nomads.  A lot of long runs with the ball.  What was interesting about their play was if an opposing player (German) had the ball, even 30 or 40 feet away, a lone player (Algerian) would try to attack the ball with speed and a whole lot of determination.  One could see them running themselves into the ground as the game wore on.  It was almost a saving of energy for the Brazil game.  By the time they got to the yellow shirts, they were operating on all eleven cylinders and Brazil would not stand a chance.

I think the Dutch got all wound up in the hype about Messi and played not to be beaten by one player.  They were not playing as if they expected to win.  I don't think the German side will be suckered in to playing that sort of game.  Argentina will have a whole lot of small groups coming at them from all over the field.  That team, with every play, has backup from attest two other players every where on the field. When I was learning what little I know,(as a knew nothing about the game coach) I watched, and listened to our high school coach.  He was Portuguese and played the game from almost the time he could walk.  His main tactic was "triangles and support".  Never try to run the field alone with the ball.  Always support the man with the ball.  Watch the German side.  They have demonstrated exactly what my mentor preached. I expect more of the same later today. ;)
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2014, 01:26 PM »
I was hoping for a Germany vs. Dutch final.  [sad]

Today I will be cheering on Germany to take the win!

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« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2014, 05:37 PM »
Yeah, They seemed to be playing "Not to Lose" in that game.  They looked better >>> and tougher<<< in their game against Brazil.  I guess they finally decided pi's could be a bit risky.

I have watched a couple of Germany's games.  The game against Algeria was very interesting in the way it was played and perhaps a hint of what was to come.  In that game, the Germans were very well organized and they were building all over the field.  They seemed to know where they were going every time they the ball. Every attack always involved almost every player and no attack was carried out by long runs, but passes with triangles all over the field.  No player was acting alone.  The Algerians were playing like a bunch of nomads.  A lot of long runs with the ball.  What was interesting about their play was if an opposing player (German) had the ball, even 30 or 40 feet away, a lone player (Algerian) would try to attack the ball with speed and a whole lot of determination.  One could see them running themselves into the ground as the game wore on.  It was almost a saving of energy for the Brazil game.  By the time they got to the yellow shirts, they were operating on all eleven cylinders and Brazil would not stand a chance.

I think the Dutch got all wound up in the hype about Messi and played not to be beaten by one player.  They were not playing as if they expected to win.  I don't think the German side will be suckered in to playing that sort of game.  Argentina will have a whole lot of small groups coming at them from all over the field.  That team, with every play, has backup from attest two other players every where on the field. When I was learning what little I know,(as a knew nothing about the game coach) I watched, and listened to our high school coach.  He was Portuguese and played the game from almost the time he could walk.  His main tactic was "triangles and support".  Never try to run the field alone with the ball.  Always support the man with the ball.  Watch the German side.  They have demonstrated exactly what my mentor preached. I expect more of the same later today. ;)
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2014, 05:38 PM »
OK, it's over. Festool-land won once again.  [wink]

Congrats to our fellow German Festoolians.  [thumbs up]  

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« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2014, 05:38 PM »
Congrats Germany!
Thank goodness it didn't go to pk's to claim a world cup
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« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2014, 05:40 PM »
Wayne your wife should be happy as can be, it was a good game, glad it didn't go to pk's for sure
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« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2014, 05:45 PM »
What a brilliant goal in overtime [big grin]  The best team won but, they almost needed the red cross after some of the defensive play of the opposition!  Congratulations Germany [big grin]

Jack

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« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2014, 05:50 PM »
Best side won well done

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« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2014, 05:54 PM »
Stunning goal but what an arse Messi made of that free kick
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« Reply #115 on: July 13, 2014, 06:22 PM »
That last free kick when he (Messi) had all that time to consider and (even rest) was not the mark of the "Golden Player" for sure.

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« Reply #116 on: July 13, 2014, 06:27 PM »
Exciting game!  really could have gone either way.

Grats to Germany, well done.

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« Reply #117 on: July 13, 2014, 07:51 PM »
Germany Wins!! Festool Germany your country just won the World Cup, what are you going to do?  Release NAINA items to the USA.  [big grin] [big grin]
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« Reply #118 on: July 13, 2014, 08:19 PM »
That last free kick when he (Messi) had all that time to consider and (even rest) was not the mark of the "Golden Player" for sure.

His team put a big load on his shoulders. 
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« Reply #119 on: July 13, 2014, 11:33 PM »
That last free kick when he (Messi) had all that time to consider and (even rest) was not the mark of the "Golden Player" for sure.
To take anything away from the caliber player that Messi is over that free kick is just silly.

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« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2014, 12:00 AM »
That last free kick when he (Messi) had all that time to consider and (even rest) was not the mark of the "Golden Player" for sure.
To take anything away from the caliber player that Messi is over that free kick is just silly.

OK, your correct!  Messi is a great player but he couldn't carry his team today.  It was a close game I just don't appreciate the fall back defense game Argentina played today.

Jack

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« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2014, 01:34 AM »
DEUTSCHLAND! As predicted....

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« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2014, 08:01 AM »
What an impressive cup for Die Mannschaft!  It was fun to watch all their games, which is more than I could say about Argentina. Would've loved to have seen Messi work some magic in the final, though. The best team won in the end.

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« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2014, 10:17 AM »
That last free kick when he (Messi) had all that time to consider and (even rest) was not the mark of the "Golden Player" for sure.
To take anything away from the caliber player that Messi is over that free kick is just silly.

OK, your correct!  Messi is a great player but he couldn't carry his team today.  It was a close game I just don't appreciate the fall back defense game Argentina played today.

Jack

All things considered, I think Messi played a very good game individually.  How many shots did he miss?  How much support didn't he have on any of his shots?  It seemed that every time he made a run, he was all alone, one player supporting or surrounded by the German team.  Germany was nearly always supported by a group of players everywhere on the field. 

I had heard from one of the announcers that the German coach had brought only one true striker (Klose) and no backs.  He brought only midfielders.  I think that was a stroke of genius.  Everytime the team got the ball in defensive area, they seemed always to have a lot of choices of who to pass to.  The long balls were dead n the foot (or body) of team-mates.

 Messi seemed to not have as many choices.  It seemed he was the only one getting the ball into penalty and or goal area.  I don't knock him.  How many elbows were thrown at opponents heads? (Note a reply above about Red Cross being needed)  Messi was NOT a contributor to such action.  I give him credit even tho i was not rooting for him, or his team.
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2014, 10:45 AM »
Higuain missed a sitter. Palacio missed a good chance. If either of those had gone in when it was 0-0 the headlines would have been very different. I thought Argentina defended very well, one momentary lapse of concentration and a spectacular finish was the only difference between the teams.


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« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2014, 02:13 PM »
I just keep thinking what kind of odds Las Vegas would have had two years ago if they claimed each World Cup finalist would have their own Pope. [scratch chin]

Kidding aside, I enjoy the observations coming in. I never played soccer but it was my oldest son's sport of choice and it is fascinating to see the game played at its highest level.
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Re: Worldcup 2014
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2014, 05:24 PM »
I agree that it was a match that could've tipped the other direction.

Overall, though, Germany had a much more entertaining playing style and a complete team vs. the very defense-counterattack minded Argentina -which reminded me a bit of a classic Italian side.  The Italians usually do well in these cups but they rarely score many goals. They score one or two and park the player's bus in front of their own goal. Argentina won all of their games with one goal except for one that was (unfortunately) decided on penalty kicks. On the other hand, Germany must've broken some record with all their goals.