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Offline TealaG

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Brad Nails vs Staples
« on: July 21, 2018, 01:39 PM »
Hi...another dilemma.   I bought an air compressor, brad nailer and stapler.   Yes, I've been watching too much YouTube.  :)   Right now, I'm doing lots of "utility" projects, making boxes and containers just for me.  They don't need to be beautiful or perfect.  I just need them "work" and not fall apart.    I've learned that glue and brad nails are fast.  But I'm confused regarding whether staples might be stronger. 

One reason I'm considering staples is because I see that small crafting crates use staples to assemble them and yes, I want to make crates.   I don't want to make them because I really think it'll be cheaper.   I would like them to be custom sized AND I'm now generating enough scrap wood that I'd rather use than toss and the scrap pile is getting out of control. 

Any thoughts on brad nails vs staples would be fab.   Also (dumb question) - I have an 18 gauge and a 23 gauge.  Any advice on when to use which would be fabulous.  I assume that 18 is better for "construction" vs 23 for "finish mouldings"?

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Brad Nails vs Staples
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2018, 03:48 PM »
I've learned that glue and brad nails are fast.  But I'm confused regarding whether staples might be stronger. 
If your stapler is 18G then the staples are stronger than an 18 gauge brad of the same length. Brads and glue or staples and glue is always stronger. If you like the look of staples for your crates go with it. If you want some extra strength, put a little glue on the joint.

Any thoughts on brad nails vs staples would be fab.   Also (dumb question) - I have an 18 gauge and a 23 gauge.  Any advice on when to use which would be fabulous.  I assume that 18 is better for "construction" vs 23 for "finish mouldings"?

23 Gauge is used when needing to hide the hole i.e. in prefinished stock, when the stock will be glued and the 23 gauge pin is used to hold the piece in place till the glue sets or for temporary attachment for jigs etc.

Tim

Offline TealaG

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Re: Brad Nails vs Staples
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 12:23 PM »
Thanks for your input.   I can't wait to start making little crates!  :)

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Brad Nails vs Staples
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 01:15 PM »
If you use staples do some experiments. Results vary tremendously depending on orientation of staple crown to grain and whether the wood is natural or plywood.

With plywood penetration is also a factor. Even if the crown is parallel to the surface grain if the staple goes in too far and breaks the next layer down it can cause unsightly surface disruption.

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Brad Nails vs Staples
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 03:09 PM »
I think you could take your pick between 18ga brads and staples. The important part is that they are also glued. Otherwise the sides will get knocked loose.

Seth


Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Brad Nails vs Staples
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2018, 04:07 PM »
I've learned that glue and brad nails are fast.  But I'm confused regarding whether staples might be stronger. 
If your stapler is 18G then the staples are stronger than an 18 gauge brad of the same length. Brads and glue or staples and glue is always stronger. If you like the look of staples for your crates go with it. If you want some extra strength, put a little glue on the joint.

Any thoughts on brad nails vs staples would be fab.   Also (dumb question) - I have an 18 gauge and a 23 gauge.  Any advice on when to use which would be fabulous.  I assume that 18 is better for "construction" vs 23 for "finish mouldings"?

23 Gauge is used when needing to hide the hole i.e. in prefinished stock, when the stock will be glued and the 23 gauge pin is used to hold the piece in place till the glue sets or for temporary attachment for jigs etc.

Tim

I would think Staple would work better in hardwood and brads would be a better in plywood.  If you split the lamination driving a staple you might end up creating a weaker joint in some plywoods like birch, pine and fir. 
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