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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2016, 04:26 PM »
............So, I talked the hubs into letting me purchase the Festool TS 75 Track Saw for Christmas.  Granted, he never actually knew what it costs....or the dust extractor....or the MFT/3 Multi-task Table, that all came together (wink, wink)!  Thank goodness all the Systainers look alike, so he hasn't noticed the Planer, both Dominoes, or the Rotex 90! The track saw allows me to break down sheet goods and other materials that I can't cut on my Hitachi chop saw.  I've used my multiple Kreg Jigs for years, but the two Domino joiners make it even easier and better quality.

OMG, this sounds so familiar!   [eek]  [big grin]

@Girlsintheshop  Welcome and best of luck in your endeavors!

Mike A.


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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2016, 04:58 PM »
Good idea, and I think you got a lot of good advise.

 However I will give a story of my experience not woodworking related.  I used to be a very high level skier, in college a bunch of us rented a place for a week.  Because of my experience I was asked to teach some of the new or not experienced skiers.  After 1 run I gave up, because I couldn't teach them, because it became frustrating that something easy to me was hard for others.  I say this because some people that can do something at a high level, can't teach, so start off with 1 or 2 people and see if you can teach the skill, answer questions and have a lot of patience.
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Offline Holmz

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2016, 09:21 PM »
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I totally agree about strength.  There are definitely some tools that are easier for me to use than others.  Every time, I would use the Craftsman table saw to break down sheet goods, I'd risk tipping it over! .
...

Well I find that keeping some spinach cans on your person help  [wink]

I think some form of a syllabus or course outline, and goals would help.
It maybe that there are:
- Hand tool use for woodwork.
- Hand tool use for general fixing up stuff around the house.
- Power tool use for wood.
- etc.

So goals, mission, vision could be a good place to start.
It is basically like a business plan, even if it is a not strictly a for-profit business.

Offline Kev

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2016, 08:11 AM »
I'm late in on this.

I'm a big fan of "outcome" or "capability" training.

When it comes to DIY, there's also logical families of capabilities and/or outcomes.

I'd personally gear training/teaching to a series of practical things initially ...

Install a picture hook in wood, plasterboard, masonry.
Make some free standing shelves.
Garden planter, bread board, picture frame.
Bench, steps, coffee table.

Personally (based on the people I know), I would consider a group of 6+ men, but less than 4 women ... simply because of the nature of the gender (I'm not being sexist - just my observation).

Offline leakyroof

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2016, 06:42 PM »
With education experience under your belt, you're ready. Just adjust as you go, be prepared for challenges
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Offline teocaf

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2016, 07:34 PM »
...there's also logical families of capabilities and/or outcomes.
...6+ men, but less than 4 women

um, i think you forgot the venn diagram...

what i think we have here is a very complicated case, maude;  lots of ins, lots of outs, and what-have-yous. and let's not forget: this guy treats objects as women, man...


Offline Girlsintheshop

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2016, 09:19 PM »
Thanks again for all of the suggestions & ideas! Now to find the time!  For a first project, I'm thinking we might make an outdoor wine caddy.   I've attached a picture and the plan. 

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2016, 01:24 PM »
Im a little late commenting but rather late then never. 1st Id like to say that is a very good idea. Not reading through all the post so I may be repeating what others have said.

I don't recall seeing anything about venue and resources. My suggestion to you is to maybe go to your local woodcraft. Talk to them and discuss the possibility of them letting you hold the class there. Most have spaces and hold classes.

Id set flyers out  as a lot of guys I know go there along with their wives and would be happy if their wives learned woodworking to.

Then he be able to buy even more tools  Tee Hee Tee Hee :>D

To me it would be something they might be interested in hosting.

As it would help with them making some sales, community relations etc.
The woodcraft near me has classes ensuing a scroll saw, small lathe/pen making etc.

Start out by covering the use of the basic tools they more then likely would do the instructing on shop safety etc. Start by making basic joints etc along with a small project coat rack, book ends some small easily assembled project. Then you can start adding to the difficulty as they get more and more experience.

Keep it light an fun.

This is a really good idea I hope it works out for you.
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Offline sigmatango

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2016, 01:45 PM »
As a Journeyman Cabinetmaker, also known as a joiner in other countries, my four years of apprenticeship saw a pretty even 50/50 split, female to male in class. I found my lady classmates were often more capable, with a higher sense of what looks good in cabinets and furniture, and more than capable using the bigger tools such as a shaper. Anybody who would imagine that ladies have a tough time with tools would do well to look around and notice the number of men who are absolute butchers with hand and powertools. Being hamhanded has little to do with sex. One year, I had a lady as a benchmate, and that year was the best of the four in terms of collaboration and mutual assistance.
 I say, kudos for starting such an initiative. Good luck, and keep on trucking!
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Offline Girlsintheshop

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2016, 04:50 PM »
Im a little late commenting but rather late then never. 1st Id like to say that is a very good idea. Not reading through all the post so I may be repeating what others have said.

I don't recall seeing anything about venue and resources. My suggestion to you is to maybe go to your local woodcraft. Talk to them and discuss the possibility of them letting you hold the class there. Most have spaces and hold classes.

Id set flyers out  as a lot of guys I know go there along with their wives and would be happy if their wives learned woodworking to.

Then he be able to buy even more tools  Tee Hee Tee Hee :>D

To me it would be something they might be interested in hosting.

As it would help with them making some sales, community relations etc.
The woodcraft near me has classes ensuing a scroll saw, small lathe/pen making etc.

Start out by covering the use of the basic tools they more then likely would do the instructing on shop safety etc. Start by making basic joints etc along with a small project coat rack, book ends some small easily assembled project. Then you can start adding to the difficulty as they get more and more experience.

Keep it light an fun.

This is a really good idea I hope it works out for you.

Great suggestions!  I wish we had a local Woodcraft or other woodworking store in the area.  The closest one is about an hour and a half away.  Perhaps, I should open my own woodworking store, carry all my favorite tools, and offer classes.  Now if I only had the pocketbook to do so that would be beautiful!! [laughing]

Carrie

Offline Holmz

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2017, 12:32 AM »
@Girlsintheshop
Carrie,

Where are you at with it?
I have a potential student for you if you have this course going yet.

What would she need to have/bring with her?

Offline Cincinnati

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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2017, 10:30 AM »
I'm coming to this thread late, and unfortunately don't have time to read all responses. IMHO:

What you're describing is more of a school than a club.  Liability should be a huge concern. I would not undertake this without consulting a liability attorney and having an adequate insurance policy to cover you. Most homeowners insurance companies would likely balk at covering this by default under homeowners insurance.

Additionally, having them sign waivers does not shield you from a lawsuit nor from your liability to assure no one gets injured using your tools.

It's a shame that we've come to this point, but I have first hand experience with losing homeowners insurance and having to buy a high risk policy for a former friend's stupidity and negligence.

Offline RKA

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2017, 10:50 AM »
@Cincinnati
If you feel like elaborating on the situation, I would be interested.  I'm in the process of setting up my shop, and there are a few select people I would allow access to the machinery with the appropriate instruction and safety gear, but your last sentence opened my eyes.  If you don't or can't elaborate, that's fine as well, I understand. 
-Raj

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Re: Feisty Female Festool Friday Club….Feedback Needed!
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2017, 01:29 PM »
I only just tuned on to this discussion.  A lot of forth and back in some of the presentations reminded me of another story  from my  own education. The story, as per usual, is just a little off topic. Y'all can use out if you want.

I  was  a second  semester freshman Aggie at  the two year course (Rattcliff Hicks School of Ag for those who might be familiar) at Uconn.  One of my sellectives was a course in slaughtering and meat  cutting. My buddy, Toby, and I were always the first volunteers to try any new procedure. One class was in prepareing a sheep  carcase for the butcher shop. We were presented with an unskinned carcase thet had to be skinned.  The instructor (I do remember his name, but  won't use it here) explained the total process.  One, after making the necessary  cuts, had to pull down on the hide while pushing up with the  knuckles of the hand not doing the pulling.  There is a very thin and delicate membrane between a  sheep body and the hide.  A layer  of fat between the  membrane and the meat of the body.  If not done correctly, an ugly mess was the result  with  ugly  blobs of fat sticking out thru the  membrane where it had been torn.

Toby and I made a mess, probably worse than our instructor  had predicted.  Others in the class, from following our procedure and  learning what not to do, performed with a finished project  that was much more presentable than ours.  At the end of the class, Mr. C took Toby and me aside and asked us, "Do you mind if I take your  carcase to my evening class. I am teaching about a dozen young mothers about meat cutting. Before you answer, I want you to understand that I will use your example to show the ladies what NOT to do."  Hey, it was fine with us.  We even offered to  go along to the class. 

Tinker
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