TheTassieBFG
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« on: February 01, 2012, 08:09 PM » |
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Hi all
Hopefully I have put this in the right section
I've been searching the net (and various forums) in an attempt to find plans for making a Mortice and Tenon jig for use with a router. I've found lots of jigs for creating the mortices and some seperate jigs for creating the tenon but am hoping to find something like the leigh FMT that does both without the need for changing bits or machines. My question is has any one created or discovered something like this and if so would you be willing to share
1. your thoughts on how well they work and
2.would you be willing to share the plans (if it's your creation) or your source if you discovered plans somewhere.
Looking forward to the replies
Andrew
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Kev
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 08:23 PM » |
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Hi Andrew,
A jig for the tenon is going to be a challenge in that the dimensions of the stock could be anything.
On this forum you're probably going to get 20 replies asking you why you wouldn't consider a Domino.
So ... "Why wouldn't you consider a Domino?"
Kev.
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Jesse Cloud
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 09:14 PM » |
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FYI, I sold my FMT to pay for the Domino, never regretted it.
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Upscale
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 09:37 PM » |
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I've been searching the net (and various forums) in an attempt to find plans for making a Mortice and Tenon jig for use with a router. I have a home made tenon and mortise jig. It's a Domino. I made the money for it and it resides in my home. That's the extent that my "home made" aspirations go.  Seriously, the Domino will likely meet and exceed your needs. Unless your life revolves around making something for yourself, you should consider the Domino and immediately get busy on building bigger projects. |
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TheTassieBFG
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 10:20 PM » |
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HI all I knew i should have said it.  I do have a domino  I would just like to play around with a different method but not to the point I am willing to pay a grand for the Leigh FMT + accessories like cutters. So loose tenon joinery is not an issue I have the capability for it and the Tool for the job. I just want to add another arrow to the bow and have a play in thge shed.. cheers |
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Kev
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 10:26 PM » |
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Yes, I fully understand. I have aspirations beyond the Domino too ... though mine are aspirations met by the Domino XL |
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 10:30 PM » |
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Here is a Cheaper Option for you.... |
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Upscale
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 01:46 AM » |
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I do have a domino I would just like to play around with a different method but not to the point I am willing to pay a grand for the Leigh FMT + accessories like cutters. Then, what you asked is an understandable question. But, that leads me to ask, can you cut a proper mortise and tenon by hand? That means a chisel, a drill and maybe a simple tenon saw. I can't, at least I haven't learned the proper techniques, but I've seen people who do ~ all with blinding speed and accuracy. As I'm sure you already know, you don't really have to have a jig. And you can do it fast and accurately without a great deal of time put into learning how ~ at least that's what I've heard. Can that be another arrow in your quiver? |
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Pete Pedisich
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 02:45 AM » |
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Andrew,
I think if you go to patwarner.com you will find ideas for a tenoning jig that is very straightforward, and I have made a mortising jig that is posted here in the jigs section, although there are many simpler approaches than mine.
The mortise pal is a nice simple idea.
Good Luck!
Pete
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TheTassieBFG
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 07:22 AM » |
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Hi Upscale & Pete thanks for your comments.
Andrew
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 07:41 AM » |
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Andrew, I built a compact workbench this past summer. The legs were 3x3" fir that I morticed for the rails. I first used a 3/4" forstner bit in a drill press to rough out the mortice, then cleaned it up the sides (very little needed) with a straight chisel. Then I cut the tenons on the table saw with just a regular blade, not a dado set. It took awhile to cut the tenons, but they were fine. I cleaned up the saw marks and fit with a shoulder plane. It was my first hand cut mortices. Actually very easy to do. I have a Domino which I used for other joints on the bench.
Have fun. Kevin
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 11:29 AM » |
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Check out Matthias Wandel's site. Some amazing stuff here, including M&T jigs. http://woodgears.ca/joinery.html |
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 07:36 PM » |
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He has an incredible mind that just never stops creating.  |
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TheTassieBFG
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 07:42 PM » |
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KevinSounds like you had a bit of fun building your bench. Thanks fore your input. Richard & RonWenI've spent a bit of time on that site and have slated some future projects. He is incredible and has lots of interesting and creative solutions and stuff but not quite what I am after at the moment. Someone from an Australian woodworking forum pointed me in the direction of http://newtorouting.webs.com/superjig.htm. I think this one fits the bill but if anyone has other ideas please feel free to add them. Andrew
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Kev
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 07:48 PM » |
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I don't do it myself ... but I would have thought a multi master tool would be ideal for cutting tenons.
Any thoughts?
I suppose it's not practical when you're talking big tenons, but small to medium ...
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