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Offline Cleg79

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Collapsible table
« on: September 28, 2015, 03:42 AM »
Hi, I'm new to festool and this is the first time I've posted. I wanted to build a paulk workbench but I only have a small van and single garage.  I searched this forum and come up with this a twist on a  idea I found on here.
This is it flat packed, takes 5 mins it put together and strip.

I hate bending down for my tools so I put a shelf in and slots to hold guide  rails

It keeps the parallel guides off the floor.
I not real happy with the base think I'm going to make some folding trestles instead.

Offline Holmz

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2015, 04:00 AM »
Well I like it!
<being lazy...> Do you have drawings?

Offline Kev

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2015, 04:51 AM »
 [welcome]

That's sweet. Nicely done.

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 05:33 AM »
Thanks. No drawings yet probably going to change few things and add a few.

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 09:45 AM »
Very nice! Tool and rail holders / storage built in  [thumbs up]

Is the holder for the long rail a bit deeper than needed? If not I'd be concerned with cutting it if the saw was set a little too deep.

Great way to start posting. Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

 

Seth

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 10:03 AM »
Looks good bro, how many loose pieces ?
And do you keep it in your work vehicle all the time ?
Billy

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 10:09 AM »
Thanks Seth, there's  about 5mm clearance. I was thinking that when I was making it but then though I'll probably be using the rail and was planning on using sacrificial pieces  under work. I still may give it a extra 15mm. That's also why I do some on a angle and Straight ones for parallel guides.

Graham

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 10:11 AM »
It's funny I just posted an idea along the lines of this function over the weekend myself and b4 that I was searching for others and didn't really see anything
Billy

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 10:52 AM »
Hi billy, thanks. No loose pieces real I made a template so they all the same. But is a bit rocky with the straight up an down type legs I think I am going to use the shop dog still trestles instead. Not used it in the van yet that's another project. What's the post called so I can have a look?

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 11:00 AM »
It's right below yours
Shop made benchmark table,
Conceptually much different
Functionally the same
Billy

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 11:02 AM »
I wasnt referring to your craftsmanship when I asked about loose pieces
More how many pieces is it b4 set up
Billy

Offline ear3

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 11:41 AM »
Nice job.  Who are those red quick clamps made by?
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Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2015, 11:52 AM »
Thanks Edward,  Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-clamps-forged-quick-lever-guide-rail-clamp. Really nice clamps for the money.

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2015, 12:04 PM »
Sorry billy,
2 legs
5 crosses at 2440
5 crosses 2000
1 shelf
= 3 &1/2 sheet ply
Probably a bit over kill but I wanted to be able to hold guide rails in 300mm pieces

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2015, 06:54 PM »
no worries cleg, much like design, overkill is in the eye of the beholder......
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 07:04 PM by Billy stray »
Billy

Offline Woodwork Wizard

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 03:07 AM »
Lots of very good ideas here.

Storage of the long track with parallel guides at the front is super convenient.
8' x 4' is a great size for a work table to cut sheet materials.
Breaks down and assembles quickly.
Very portable.
Simple - genius.
Isn't going to cost the earth.
Something a woodworker should be proud of - making his own (especially when it's better than anything you can buy!)


I love MFTs (in a workshop) but would have far more use for this on-site than an MFT...




Good stuff!






Offline Alex

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2015, 03:55 AM »
Looks good, but a bit massive, you could probably remove lots of material to make it lighter and still keep it strong enough.

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2015, 02:49 PM »
Thanks woodwork wizard.

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2015, 02:55 PM »
Thanks Alex. Yes it's a bit over kill but am probably only going to use it at home.   So not that bothered about weight. I could just leave a few peace out if was going to take it on site.

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2015, 03:07 PM »
Thanks Edward,  Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-clamps-forged-quick-lever-guide-rail-clamp. Really nice clamps for the money.

I would avoid Axminster clamps.
Better of paying more and get a decent brand which last.

You will only end up having to buy another set so costing you more any way.
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Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2015, 03:49 PM »

Thanks Edward,  Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-clamps-forged-quick-lever-guide-rail-clamp. Really nice clamps for the money.

I would avoid Axminster clamps.
Better of paying more and get a decent brand which last.

You will only end up having to buy another set so costing you more any way.

Have you had problems with the before?
I'll buy festool or bessy clamps next time then though I was saving a few quid.

Offline overanalyze

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2015, 10:53 PM »
Great design! Looks similar to one I came up with. It is nice to be able to assemble quick. How big is the surface overall?


Offline jmbfestool

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2015, 02:13 AM »

Thanks Edward,  Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-clamps-forged-quick-lever-guide-rail-clamp. Really nice clamps for the money.

I would avoid Axminster clamps.
Better of paying more and get a decent brand which last.

You will only end up having to buy another set so costing you more any way.

Have you had problems with the before?
I'll buy festool or bessy clamps next time then though I was saving a few quid.

Yes I did have.

I have owned my festool and bessy clamps for years and still have them now.

Yet the pair of axministers are in a skip! The lifespan of one was less than a year the other soon followed with the same problem.

They must use an inferior/softer metal.  The ratchet wears away so the clamps don't hold and just spring open when you least expect it very annoying. They get worse and worse untill just a slight knock or vibration they pop open.  I sneezed once and one just pop open  [tongue]

So although a saved money at the time in the long run its cost me more.

Based on my 1pair of festool ones I have had for 10years I would have had to buy the Axminster ones 10 times by now or more .  The festool ones are still working perfectly fine so it could be another 10years.
So in the long run going for a decent brand you could be saving thousands of pounds.


 Saying all this maybe they have improved them I don't know but what I do know is my pair didn't last and I didn't abuse them they actually had less abuse than the clamps I already owned and had been used less in the time frame they failed.
All I wanted was just another pair of clamps and axmisnters looked identical for less money.  I am just so glad I bought a pair! I would have been so angry had I bought 10 pairs or more.

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Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2015, 08:15 AM »

Great design! Looks similar to one I came up with. It is nice to be able to assemble quick. How big is the surface overall?

Hi overanalye,  it was thanks to you and a few others I come up with my own twist on your design. I wanted to post it in your original post but couldn't find it again for love or money.  There's still a few things I want to add and change when I get round to it, but it's good for now. I want it for ripping down veneered board for kitchens and bedrooms so it's 2000mm x 2440mm.

Thanks

Offline Cleg79

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2015, 08:17 AM »


Thanks Edward,  Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-clamps-forged-quick-lever-guide-rail-clamp. Really nice clamps for the money.

I would avoid Axminster clamps.
Better of paying more and get a decent brand which last.

You will only end up having to buy another set so costing you more any way.

Have you had problems with the before?
I'll buy festool or bessy clamps next time then though I was saving a few quid.

Yes I did have.

I have owned my festool and bessy clamps for years and still have them now.

Yet the pair of axministers are in a skip! The lifespan of one was less than a year the other soon followed with the same problem.

They must use an inferior/softer metal.  The ratchet wears away so the clamps don't hold and just spring open when you least expect it very annoying. They get worse and worse untill just a slight knock or vibration they pop open.  I sneezed once and one just pop open  [tongue]

So although a saved money at the time in the long run its cost me more.

Based on my 1pair of festool ones I have had for 10years I would have had to buy the Axminster ones 10 times by now or more .  The festool ones are still working perfectly fine so it could be another 10years.
So in the long run going for a decent brand you could be saving thousands of pounds.


 Saying all this maybe they have improved them I don't know but what I do know is my pair didn't last and I didn't abuse them they actually had less abuse than the clamps I already owned and had been used less in the time frame they failed.
All I wanted was just another pair of clamps and axmisnters looked identical for less money.  I am just so glad I bought a pair! I would have been so angry had I bought 10 pairs or more.

Thanks for the warning I'll stay clear of the in future.

Offline overanalyze

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Re: Collapsible table
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2015, 07:53 PM »

Great design! Looks similar to one I came up with. It is nice to be able to assemble quick. How big is the surface overall?

Hi overanalye,  it was thanks to you and a few others I come up with my own twist on your design. I wanted to post it in your original post but couldn't find it again for love or money.  There's still a few things I want to add and change when I get round to it, but it's good for now. I want it for ripping down veneered board for kitchens and bedrooms so it's 2000mm x 2440mm.

Thanks
That's great!! It is what I love about this place. ..plenty of ideas out there! I really like the side long track storage.