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Offline JBag09

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Finally have my own Workshop
« on: February 27, 2018, 09:41 PM »
  So after many years of talking, dreaming and planning, I finally have my own workshop built. I’ve been doing woodworking since I was a teenager in one way or another. Whether it was making picture frames or toy boxes, to roofing, home building. But it seemed everything I did, it always led me back to building some type of cabinet for somebody.
  When my wife and I first got married almost 25 years ago, our first home had no place for any type of shop, I ended up using my parents garage, since all my stuff was still stored there. It worked for the time being, but, eh.
  Then we took the plunge and built our current house about 15 years ago, with enough property, that I could build a garage for a workshop. And it’s worked great, but I’ve just gotten to the point where I’ve outgrown it, and it would be nice to have my truck parked back in the garage. I mean, I know a 26’ x 26’ garage is a dream for many people, but do to my love of machinery, and room to move around, and thanks to a huge snowstorm 2 years ago.  Where I tore down all my workbenches and jammed everything I had, so I had enough room to fit my truck in the garage. My wife then went out to her car, walked back into the house, and said I needed my own workshop....WHAT??!! Ya she actually said that, lol.
  That finally got me to seriously start planning what I wanted. I knew the type of building I wanted, because they are built very quickly, and very cost effective. Not sure what everyone else around the globe calls this style of building, but here in eastern Pennsylvania, we call them pole buildings. I kept kicking around idea after idea how and where I wanted this thing, and wasn’t sure how big I could go or wanted to go. So a couple phone calls to the municipal department, and my wife once again telling me just put up what I want, so I am not adding on again in a few years, she knows me to well. So I went for it and got everything rolling for a 40’ x 30’ with 12’ ceilings. Once I had all my permits and all that fun stuff it was December, and the way the winter started with the cold weather I figured I wouldn’t see this building started till spring time. But a sudden thaw in late January, the company called and said they’d be out the following week to start!
  Well it’s taken a month in real time, but actually only about 4 1/2 days to complete my shop, floor and all. Just have a final inspection to get through yet, then it’s time to start the inside. Here’s a few pictures to start with. More to come.



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Offline deepcreek

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 11:18 PM »
Great shop!  Be sure to share photos when you get all your woodworking equipment in place.
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 11:26 PM »
Congratulations! I look forward to see it all come together. Keep posting pics.
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 11:31 PM »
 Awesome! Keep the build pics coming!  [thumbs up]

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Offline Rob Z

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 11:52 PM »
Jealous here in VA !!  [big grin] That looks great.

I've been watching youtube videos by RR Buildings (He's based in Illinois) , showing how these types of buildings are constructed. It's very interesting for me because I have never seen one going in like this.

Offline ScotF

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 11:55 PM »
What an awesome and amazing space!

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 12:38 AM »
Looks great. Be sure and keep it TIDY! [eek] [smile] [big grin]
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 05:59 AM »
I’m so jealous!!  A shop like that is on my bucket list.

Curious...notice that the “studs” are much further apart and the exterior (siding) supports are horizontal.  Will you be drywalling/finishing the inside walls?  How do you hang cabinets?  Do you need to build out additional supports?

Please feel free to continue to share the progress, I’ll be living vicariously through you for a while now.


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Offline JBag09

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 06:37 AM »
@Rob Z, check out Pioneer Pole Buildings, they are based here in PA but through talking to the people from there they do travel to VA, and they do great work, no complaints here.
 
I will have to stud out the walls and add additional insulation, wiring, drywall etc... Somewhere in the middle of this I have a kitchen to build for someone and a project I’m currently working on to finish up. Probably won’t be moving anything in until June/July.



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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 07:07 AM »
“Probably won’t be moving anything in until June/July.”

 Bet you put stuff in way before summer.  [wink]

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Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 08:43 AM »
I’m surprised they set the poles in the dirt. Many of the builders in Ohio are setting the poles on top of concrete pilings or the slab.

Offline Redart

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 10:21 AM »
Congratulations ! Awesome !!
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 11:01 AM »
I just looked at their site.  Maybe I would hire them but there is no room for a building in the yard of our end  unit town house  [big grin]

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a few months !


@Rob Z, check out Pioneer Pole Buildings, they are based here in PA but through talking to the people from there they do travel to VA, and they do great work, no complaints here.
 
I will have to stud out the walls and add additional insulation, wiring, drywall etc... Somewhere in the middle of this I have a kitchen to build for someone and a project I’m currently working on to finish up. Probably won’t be moving anything in until June/July.



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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2018, 11:16 AM »
Man Im jealous. I use my 2 car garage which is fine but as most of us need more space and a dedicated shop.

Youre a very lucky guy. Good job.

Offline JBag09

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 11:57 AM »
@RustE the posts are set on top of concrete. Depending on the township, some want a wet mix in the holes, others want the pilings.
  And this gives me a lot less yard to mow now [big grin]


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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 12:56 PM »
Love it!  Congrats!

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 06:20 PM »
Congrats!


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Offline neilc

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 06:57 PM »
That building looks great.  Looking forward to seeing interior shots as you finish the build and get it outfitted.

You'll love the space and flexibility I'm sure.

Offline JeremyH.

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 09:02 PM »
Congratulations. That must feel amazing.

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2018, 01:31 PM »
Congratulations looking forward to the subsequent posts.  Bill

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2018, 11:01 PM »
look great. congratulation
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Offline JBag09

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 08:58 PM »
Had the inspector out earlier today for my final inspection, and it passed! So now I can begin the inside work, at least around another snowstorm this week @@
First up is to get the electrical panel temporarily hung and get some power to it. More to come soon.


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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2018, 09:24 PM »
Had some time this weekend to get some more work done on the shop. A friend of mine dropped off the drill I needed to put the holes through the foundation for the electric, so having to put a 2-5/8” & 2-1/8” through was fairly easy. Got all the conduit put together and ready to run the wiring sometime soon.

Then my son and I went across the ceiling every 24” and snapped lines for my “faux” ceiling joists. With all the trusses spaces at 48” on center I had to come up with someway to be sure I wouldn’t get any sag in the plywood I’m going to put on the ceiling and to have a little more structure to hang the DC piping from. So I figured, run some joists the other direction which will give me plenty of support. I got 2 sections complete on each side today and have all the scaffolding moved around to do the rest hopefully throughout the week. Depending on my work schedule anyway.



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Offline JBag09

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Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2018, 09:40 PM »
Been awhile since I’ve posted anything, and I’m still missing a few pictures I keep forgetting to take.
I have everything with the ceiling finished, plywood on and even painted. I was checking out the big box stores for insulation, I wanted the blown in style since I felt it was the way to go for r-value and speed. I lucked out, here the orange box store will no longer be carrying Owens Corning insulation, so what I needed went down to half price so I jumped on it. I got a little more than I needed, but to much insulation...nah. Ended up putting in around r-60 in about 2 1/2 hrs. Turned out to be what I had hoped. I took care of the hard work in the attic and the kids just kept the machine filled up. Not much mess to clean up afterwards.
Have about 60% of the walls framed out, those are some of the pictures I’m missing. Hopefully I’ll have everything framed up early this week and figure out what to go onto next.
I do have a project to finish up for someone that will take precedence over the shop, will have to see when they are ready for me.



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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2018, 10:13 PM »
That's fantastic. I'm really jealous. We put a bid in on a house that sits on 61 acres. Our offer expires at 8p Sunday (tomorrow), and if it goes through, we'll be doing the same thing. They have a metal barn on a 30 x 60' slab. We'll tear it down and use the existing slab w/ electrical and plumbing. I can't wait to finally order the rest of the equipment I don't have room for in the garage. First up is table saw. Then bandsaw. Congrats!
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2018, 11:42 AM »
That's fantastic. I'm really jealous. We put a bid in on a house that sits on 61 acres. Our offer expires at 8p Sunday (tomorrow), and if it goes through, we'll be doing the same thing. They have a metal barn on a 30 x 60' slab. We'll tear it down and use the existing slab w/ electrical and plumbing. I can't wait to finally order the rest of the equipment I don't have room for in the garage. First up is table saw. Then bandsaw. Congrats!

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Offline Ves

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2018, 12:43 PM »
Congrats, that looks awesome. I hope to have a workshop/spray booth in the future.

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2018, 08:23 PM »
Not sure what time zone your in @David but hopefully you’ll win your bid


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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2018, 11:09 AM »
Very cool.

Would love to have a pole barn to create a shop. 

I am seriously jealous.
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2018, 06:16 PM »
Not to criticize too much.  But who the heck did the electrical wiring in the trusses, rafters?  The last set of pictures show the 12(yellow) and 10(orange) gauge wires just thrown here and there in wild fashion with no order at all.  A qualified electrician, someone who cares about his work, puts the cables in a neat orderly fashion.  He runs the cables in straight lines.  He does not throw them onto the roof and wind them around each other in knots.  With the insulation blown into the attic, its too late to fix the mistakes up there.  But have someone else, competent, wire the walls in the shop.

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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2018, 09:00 AM »
Well D.B.Russell, I’ll admit I did the wiring. And maybe it’s not up to your standards or looks professional enough for you, but it is all labeled on both ends and stapled accordingly. And on top of that, it is MY building!
I can take constructive criticism just fine, but I think that was a little to far. I remember a teacher from high school once said “Don’t make others feel inferior, to make yourself feel superior” I still remember that and I still use that quote quite often. Maybe you should think about that one for awhile. Now kindly move on sir.


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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2018, 09:28 AM »
You have a great building!  Share photos as you finish out and fill the interior! 

Are you planning on LED lights?  I did a 50x75 shop a couple of years ago on our farm and the lights made a huge difference!

Offline RustE

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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2018, 10:26 AM »
@JBag09  Glad to see you vented the roof and put in the chutes before the insulation.  Far too many people miss this step.  But how does this structure meet snow loads with trusses 48-inches on center?

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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2018, 05:39 PM »
Well D.B.Russell, I’ll admit I did the wiring. And maybe it’s not up to your standards or looks professional enough for you, but it is all labeled on both ends and stapled accordingly. And on top of that, it is MY building!
I can take constructive criticism just fine, but I think that was a little to far. I remember a teacher from high school once said “Don’t make others feel inferior, to make yourself feel superior” I still remember that and I still use that quote quite often. Maybe you should think about that one for awhile. Now kindly move on sir.

Your wiring job is what makes you feel inferior because it was poorly done.  It is inferior.  No competent electrician would ever wire a building like that.  It is inferior.  Learn to wire correctly before you wire the walls in the shop.  If anyone were to buy your place, and they saw the wiring in your shop, they would instantly reduce the price by $20 grand because they would know it was wired incorrectly.  And the building will burn down if they do not replace all the wiring immediately.  They could never ever trust the wiring.  Now granted you have hidden and covered up the poor wiring job by blowing insulation over it.  So any unsuspecting buyer may never know about the faulty wiring until after the shop burns down.  But its better to do it right, correctly, from the start.

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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2018, 09:00 PM »
@JBag09  Glad to see you vented the roof and put in the chutes before the insulation.  Far too many people miss this step.  But how does this structure meet snow loads with trusses 48-inches on center?
Wish I could tell you exactly. I know these buildings are all engineered and I saw on the plans about snow load. So they apparently meet whatever the requirements are.



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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2018, 09:05 PM »
You have a great building!  Share photos as you finish out and fill the interior! 

Are you planning on LED lights?  I did a 50x75 shop a couple of years ago on our farm and the lights made a huge difference!
Yes, just hung the LEDs today. Mainly because I got tired of moving them around, and now at least they won’t get broken sitting around on the floor. Can’t wait to see how much light they give off.


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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2018, 09:32 PM »
@JBag09 hurry up with some more posts.  Progress has to have been made.  We are waiting to steal ideas.

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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2018, 10:06 PM »
@JBag09 hurry up with some more posts.  Progress has to have been made.  We are waiting to steal ideas.

Peter
[laughing] Peter,  I will take some more pictures tomorrow. Needed to clean up some stuff today.  I have all the framing done on the walls, the spray room, and I had enough lumber left that I framed out a room for the air compressor. Have to wait on the materials for all the filters so I know exactly how to frame that out.
 But here at some point it will actually turn into spring outside, then I have to get all that straightened up, filled in etc...and go back to mowing the lawn [big eye roll]


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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2018, 06:57 PM »
Here are the latest pictures. Waiting on some help and supplies to move forward.
Need to order a second fan for the spray room so I have the CFM requirements for everything. Was going to make my own door for it, nothing fancy. I was thinking just some a/c plywood, since I want to have most of the door basically full of air filters. My thought is I can close the door while things are drying and still work in the shop.
All 18 LED lights are hung, was just waiting to see exactly how much room I need above them for my DC pipe, I can always drop them a little. And they need to be connected together yet.


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Offline Rob Z

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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2018, 10:05 PM »
JBag, nice progress so far.   

Russell did jump on you with both feet, and maybe more harshly than I would have done.  But the point is a good one that you should make double sure that all the rest of the wiring is done as closely to the NEC as possible. I have worked with dozens of electricians on hundreds of jobs--both remodel and new construction--and one thing I can say is that neat and tidy runs of wiring  certainly look professional and many times the rest of the work IS professional (and safe). Often times, a tradesman who takes the time to make his/her wiring, piping, ductwork etc all line up straight, square and neat is the type of tradesman who pays attention to the details where it counts (safety, code compliance).

But I can also think of many, many occasions where professional-looking electrical work was in fact UNSAFE and lacking in many, many critical areas once it came time for the inspector to walk the job.

I don't see the pictures that Russell saw, so I can't comment on anything specific that might have been unsafe.    From this point forward, maybe you can hire a local  electrician to come in a go over your work at various steps along the way . That will provide an element of safety, piece of mind, and greater chances of success when it comes time for your inspections.

Good luck with the shop project and enjoy the progress you are making.

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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2018, 04:26 PM »
Internet slap fights are the best kinds of slap fights.  Entertainment better than the WWF or E or whatever.
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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2018, 11:31 PM »
I am sorry but there are aspects of this thread that are really irritating me. This gentleman is nice and generous enough to share his hard earned efforts with this group and show us his shop build step by step. It is one thing to rather rudely criticize his electrical work but then once he owned it and asked you all to let it go you just couldn’t do it and more of you then just piled on even more and the original criticizers got even more offensive. You should be ashamed of yourselves. If you don’t have anything positive to say just go away and be quiet.

Offline JBag09

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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2018, 04:48 PM »
Finally had some time to get back to working on the shop. I got the beginning stages of my spray booth done. All framed out and used some of the leftover foil insulation board to go over everything. Hoping that should make the airflow smooth. Also since everything is water base that should hopefully keep any mold away. Made sure to foil tape all the seems as well. Managed to find the grids, 20x20, and the filters and everything online. I have the fans, won’t put them up till everything is sheetrocked up above where they get mounted. Still need to figure out exactly how I will attach those.



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Re: Finally have my own Workshop
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2018, 06:16 PM »


Lights and all of the insulation have been installed, except for a few pieces of Roxul. Have a few bags of fiberglass insulation to return, and then it’s on to the Sheetrock!

Better order the dust collector this week so that’s definitely in when I’m ready for it.

And now that I’m at this point, I have a big job I have to finish up that I’ve been waiting on some other trades so I can get in there. So it looks like the shop will kinda take a back seat. Hoping to be finished with all this by first week of July! [fingers crossed]


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