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Offline Tinker

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Re: New Van
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2015, 04:54 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.


Fiat = Fix it again Tony!

Ford=Fix or replace daily
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Offline jimbouk

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Re: New Van
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2015, 07:00 AM »
After sorting my workshop out and getting the stuff I needed  this is all I managed to get done to day.

I suppose it's a start lol

I used nut rivets to attach battens to van and then counter battens using pocket hole screws and then CNC'd holes for T-nuts

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Pics finally working! Looking good i like that idea. I was thinking of a similar kind of modular thing using uni strut but i think your idea might work better.

I do the same with the mpg. Average is 35 at the moment and lots of that is in town.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2015, 05:37 PM »
Sorry for the delay!! Just been so busy.

Next weekend hopefully get onto creating the modules for the systainers/T-locs

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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2015, 05:56 PM »
500 t-nuts..... Yay!



Kinda wish they made vans straight inside would have made it easier to get it all straight.
Had to come out to 100+mm to get it all straight.



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Offline MAK

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Re: New Van
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2015, 06:12 PM »
Very neat job Jmb.
How are you finding the van?  Test drove one this week 125 engine same as yours but want to try the 155.

Can I ask why you kept the floor liner and not put ply on floor? It seemed very slippery to me
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Offline Jak147

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Re: New Van
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2015, 06:15 PM »
Jmb I didn't know you were starting a mobile in-van climbing wall!!
Seriously thou, it looks awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing how you make use of all those t nuts

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2015, 06:37 PM »
Very neat job Jmb.
How are you finding the van?  Test drove one this week 125 engine same as yours but want to try the 155.

Can I ask why you kept the floor liner and not put ply on floor? It seemed very slippery to me


Although I felt the 125 didn't have much grunt... Acceleration... to be honest even when I had a van full of tools it pretty much drove the same.  So for me the 125 is fine.

I was seeing how well I would go on with the floor liner.   I like it but at the same time dislike it.

Like you say it is a little slippery but all my tools and materials (when I'm finished) will be fixed so it doesn't mater. 
Another thing which annoyed me when I left my side door open the sun was shinning on the liner and it all bubbled up like a bouncy castle.  Obviously the van being totally empty there is nothing to keep it weighted down but it's a poor design.

Saying that it's light and if I do a ply floor I am just adding more weight and cost and time.  I can always do it on a later date.  The panels are all above the liner even where the liner mould goes up the sides so I should be able to remove the liner if I ever needed to or add ply flooring no problem.

 
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2015, 06:45 PM »
Jmb I didn't know you were starting a mobile in-van climbing wall!!
Seriously thou, it looks awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing how you make use of all those t nuts

I could park the van on a hill to make the climbing more challenging.

I my self don't know what I'm going to do with all the t-nuts yet lol.  I'm just winging it.

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Offline woodguy7

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Re: New Van
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2015, 06:45 AM »
Looks good son far though.  Is the workshop done ?  Any new pics ?
If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2015, 06:32 PM »
My design had to have 3 things.

Easy removal
Adaptable
Compatible with my workshop

I think I have achieved this.

I haven't finished still got some shelves to add and brackets for my festool rails and spirit levels etc.

But at least now it's not doing my head in going to jobs hearing everything sliding about and having it all on top of each other not being able to get at anything easily.

So here are so more pictures.

Instead of making a complete unit for the festool boxes I have made light weight yet sturdy individual boxes for every systainer/T-loc well I say every.... I haven't got round to making one for every box I own yet

This allows me to just add or remove the tools I want for specific jobs.
It allows me access to every box even when they are stacked on top of each other this is either in my van or in my workshop.

So instead of having empty shelves or spaces in my workshop when my van has them stored I'm not wasting space in two places. They either take up space in my van or in my workshop not both. I'm simply going to make trolleys so they can come out off my van and be trolleyed around my workshop. 

I kept thinking I'll make a large racking unit with draws for my T-locks/Systainers but then it's more cost and when the Systainers/T-locs are not in their place it's just dead space for no reason.

Then I do the same in my van and I've  wasted double the amount of space.

 Then to add to this if I wanted to remove my racking from my van because I wanted to load a pallet or a large unit into my van then I would have to store my van racking in my workshop.   

So that's when I decided I wanted my van racking to be part of my workshop racking.

Anyway pictures!!
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
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Re: New Van
« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2015, 06:45 PM »
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Re: New Van
« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2015, 06:50 PM »
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Re: New Van
« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2015, 06:54 PM »
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Offline Nippychippy

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Re: New Van
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2015, 02:23 AM »
Well done jmb that is looking great it must be the most modular van out there I really like the boxes. It must have been a heck of a lot of work but it will be so worth it in the end

Offline richy3333

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Re: New Van
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2015, 02:50 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

Offline Mercury

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Re: New Van
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2015, 03:25 AM »
Great job. Love the way you have sorted the space wasted in workshop or van by moving the storage. Might have to steal your ideas [big grin]. Thanks for sharing.

Offline Kev

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Re: New Van
« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2015, 03:49 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

That's nothing, wait till he mounts the CNC on the roof [wink]

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2015, 06:02 AM »
Well done jmb that is looking great it must be the most modular van out there I really like the boxes. It must have been a heck of a lot of work but it will be so worth it in the end

Yes more work than I had anticipated. Then again I had no idea what I was planning on doing.
I spent some time just stareing into the van lol.

Few things already I would change slightly but nothing to bother me or could alter later if I wanted.  Benefit to modular
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #79 on: September 04, 2015, 06:03 AM »
Theres a guy on the Stanley forum doing a VW t5 but he has built a metal frame and its all for dewalt boxes. Same sort of thing hes put a lot of thought into it too

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2015, 06:51 AM »
Theres a guy on the Stanley forum doing a VW t5 but he has built a metal frame and its all for dewalt boxes. Same sort of thing hes put a lot of thought into it too

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198

I like his racking nice.

Works well.   The Dewalt brackets are a good idea.

Just thinking if I could do the same with the T-locks/Systainers.

I would struggle to make them sturdy I think plus il loose the stacking feature in the workshop.

Ummm  might use it for my CT26 VAC. 

I've currently just strapped it but I want to create a proper home for it later on.

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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2015, 06:54 AM »
Good thing with yours Brett is that you could sell the plans just like Ron paulk, etc, as they're CNC.

Offline Tinker

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Re: New Van
« Reply #82 on: September 04, 2015, 08:23 AM »
Great ideas, JMB.  How much hastle is it to set each tray when loading/unloading?

Just a thought: Do you use a large flat washer with each bolt?  To use washer headed bolts I don't think would be enough.  Eventually, the heads would start to chew into the wood frames they are holding. 
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2015, 09:57 AM »
Great ideas, JMB.  How much hastle is it to set each tray when loading/unloading?

Just a thought: Do you use a large flat washer with each bolt?  To use washer headed bolts I don't think would be enough.  Eventually, the heads would start to chew into the wood frames they are holding. 
Tinker

Yeah I do.  At the time I didn't have any other bolts which fitted the 10mm thread.  So the ones in the picture you can see are just temp. It allowed me to be able to put them in place and get a feel.  I'll get a picture of the bolts I actually used for final fixing.

It's very  easy to set up because the panels and the backs of the units are CNC'd. When you stick four bolts in they automatically straighten up all you have to do is slide them up or down.

Once you have the first row set job done rest just fallow on.

They are strong enough to hold my boxes but I feel with the roads I drive on bouncing about and a lot of corners I have made some module legs and bracket to give extra support to the stacks which are floating.   This also speeds up setting up time because you place them on first and the job done.   I'll take some pictures.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2015, 10:08 AM »
Good thing with yours Brett is that you could sell the plans just like Ron paulk, etc, as they're CNC.

Yeah. Only down side is I only part CNC'd it.  Panels are CNC'd and I just didn't Cnc holes roughly where I was going to cut out for let's say my arches because I thought it would be quicker for me seen as its a one off.

Also the units for the t-locks/Systainers are all made up with off cuts birch ply I have in my work shop I ripped down to 50mm.   I have enough off cuts to rack out 10vans lol.  Only the backs are CNC'd which are made with off cuts also. 

If it wasn't for me wanting to get rid of my of fcuts and make use of them. I think it would have been better of in terms of time to Cnc the lot from a sheet.  I think in terms of cost per sheet and my time I recon just spending money on a sheet would have been more cost affective. 

Although I have built a prototype pocket hole machine and I am in the process of drawing up a final design to Cnc the pocket hole machine. It's still a slower process than a CNC'd version

I'll get some pictures how I would have done the joints instead of pocket holes.  I made these with off cuts and was planning on making  flat pack says-rack out of birch with draws.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2015, 10:11 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

That's nothing, wait till he mounts the CNC on the roof [wink]

Got me thinking now...
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Re: New Van
« Reply #86 on: September 04, 2015, 01:51 PM »
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Offline Tinker

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Re: New Van
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2015, 01:53 PM »
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Re: New Van
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2015, 02:01 PM »
@joiner1970

This is better than pocket holes.  Much stronger, quicker in terms of labour time for me.   They are solid even dry fitted no glue.  Really hard to get them apart and hold square once they are all tapped in.

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This is my prototype it's had few modifications over its life span.  It was horizontal but my back was hurting after doing 800pocket holes in a row. Also it was foot operated at one point but that hurt over time because it was hard to keep your foot up and down. 

Just did another 800 pocket holes in a row last week having it like it is now much better on my back and I managed to do them all without stopping having some passing and taking the parts from me.  I was litterly like a machine.  My arm felt like Popeye!

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Re: New Van
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2015, 02:04 PM »
Oops forgot to add

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