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Offline jmbfestool

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New Van
« on: August 12, 2015, 03:59 PM »
Got my new Van yesterday after Months of waiting!  It was suppose to be ready 1st September but I received a call saying it's ready the other day.

I know I know if I just wait few more weeks I would have the new Reg plate but just couldn't wait any longer! 15 ... 65 reg what's the diffs

 I will be racking it out but doing it differently to my old van. 
I want it all to be easily removed. I was thinking of having them on castors so I can use it all in my workshop to store my tools and can be used as work benches etc.   
I can select different racking for what type of work I'm doing. 
Also I'll make accessories ie glass brackets to hold/support glazing panels.
 
Basically a modular racking system



All these will be fixed either using T tacks which will be permantly fixed in my van or T-nuts fixed to plywood kinda like a climbing wall full of holes.

Not sure which route to go down.   I have already just sat in the back in my van for 30mins + just staring at all the panels thinking what's the best way to do this.  Looking around to see best way of fixning everything etc.

I'm open to suggestions.  Maybe use aluminium profiles or something. 

ill add some Pictures now and when I have done my racking which I think I'll be starting this weekend.


 
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Re: New Van
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Re: New Van
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 04:25 PM »
For modular units maybe a system that you roll your modules into place then lift it onto a.'z' rail type system similar to hanging kitchen wall units. with a couple of points you can securely lock it in place and locking castors to make it all secure. you can put your modules tight up to the bulkhead so to negate any forward movement if you have to brake hard.
Hope this helps.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 06:39 PM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5

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Re: New Van
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 01:13 AM »
For modular units maybe a system that you roll your modules into place then lift it onto a.'z' rail type system similar to hanging kitchen wall units. with a couple of points you can securely lock it in place and locking castors to make it all secure. you can put your modules tight up to the bulkhead so to negate any forward movement if you have to brake hard.
Hope this helps.
Dave

Yeah could work. Maybe instead of lifting the modules up the bracket screw down instead.  Then do another rail lower down upside down so the lock.

I'll have a think
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Re: New Van
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 01:55 AM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5

LoL

Well I did do some researching.

I wanted a VW transporter but the regular ones are to small with the payload I want and high liner doesn't look very nice at all and payload is not enough . So it would be a crafter and I have found a lot of bad press about the  VW crafter.

 

Reason is because  it's a large van yet they are still using the VW cars engines in it.  So it drinks oil  because it's always being pushed hard and doesn't like a lot of stop starting and hasn't got enough power.

A lot of people had a sprinter bought te VW crafter and regret it and bought a sprinter again.
So I was looking at sprinters but I found them very expensive for what you get and to be honest I don't do that many miles so the warranty Merc provide would be lost on me.

Then cost in order of most expensive first out of the three vans I was looking at.

Merc Sprinter is most expensive but lacks a modern cabin area
VW crafter second
Ford custom cheapest of the three.

I thought the custome long wheel base high roof was perfect size for me not to big but big enough.  The sprinter and crafter I thought were a little to big or they just seem bigger.

Also if you go on VW website they let you compare their van with other van brands.  The custome compares well with the VW. Both have their ups and downs.   It says I'll get 5% more with a VW when selling which would be £2000 more than the ford but then it says I'll save £700 a year on fuel with the ford so after 3 years I'll have saved £2100 on fuel.

I know ford are okay so after long and hard thinking on what to do I went with the ford custom.    Also I personally think the custom is a very sexy looking van.  The picture doesn't do it justice.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 02:07 AM »
Yeah I do like the look of the custom , it almost tempted me away from VW but I still think VW s are more solid and better built

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Re: New Van
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 02:13 AM »
Yeah I do like the look of the custom , it almost tempted me away from VW but I still think VW s are more solid and better built

Yeah I agree with you totally.

Yet the custom offers me a payload of 1400kg long wheel base high roof

The VW transport long wheel base highliner (which is a ugly looking van)
Payload 1200kg

My fork lift is just under 1400kg.  I wanted to transport my forklift  [smile]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 02:19 AM »
Yeah the standard van does me fine. If I needed a bigger one then you're right the high ones are ugly.

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 02:30 AM »
Yeah the standard van does me fine. If I needed a bigger one then you're right the high ones are ugly.

Not sure if to get VW Caddy or the Ford transit courier

That's very nice looking van and well priced.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 03:41 AM »
That is a nice looking rig.  I have thought many times that a van like that would be great for me.  And then I find myself loading my pickup truck with materials and or tools that just are not handy to load and unload into/out of a closed van.  Oh well, I will retire when I am 40  ::) and that will be time enough for me to think about a van

You say you want to transport your forklift.  Do you mean inside of the van? or with trailer?
If so, what is the towing capacity?  As I recall, you have a very good trailer.  Or you thought it was when you first bought it.  Have you changed your mind since?
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Re: New Van
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 05:45 AM »
That is a nice looking rig.  I have thought many times that a van like that would be great for me.  And then I find myself loading my pickup truck with materials and or tools that just are not handy to load and unload into/out of a closed van.  Oh well, I will retire when I am 40  ::) and that will be time enough for me to think about a van

You say you want to transport your forklift.  Do you mean inside of the van? or with trailer?
If so, what is the towing capacity?  As I recall, you have a very good trailer.  Or you thought it was when you first bought it.  Have you changed your mind since?
Tinker

Yeah inside my van.

No love the trailer really good.  Only thing I disliked about the trailer was the front wheel on the hitch lowering and raising it was a pain so I got a new one and welded it on. This one is much quicker to use.   But overall the trailer has pretty much paid for its self. Doing well im building a floating floor outside for the trailer to sit under when I get time.   With a hydrolic door which will be claded with cut down bricks so it looks like the wall continuous on but its secretly a door with the trailer behind.

Reason I want it to go inside my van is because it will be a lot quicker I have often found my self just needing the forklift for a day to do about an hours lifting or something. 

Getting the trailer out I have to use my forklift because you can't back the car down with the trailer but the fork lift with a tow bar on does it easily.  It's tight space.   So getting the trailer out hitching it up then driving it up the top then get the fork lift on strapping it down and then reversing it all again at the end of the day is time consuming.

My van will tow 2800kg I think so no problem there. I added a tow bar to my new van as an extra.   I will carry on using the trailer.   Good for all the large oak and ton bags. Etc



Here is a pic of the new wheel jack I had welded on.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 06:05 AM »
Does the new van have a tacho fitted? You'll need one to tow that trailer... [unsure]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 03:18 PM »
Very nice.  I've been looking to get same van myself. Think my existing one is going to let me down soon.
Stopped at Fords on way home today funny enough. Went through few figures with salesman.

Sorry Jmb but can I ask few questions.  Did u buy outright or finance options? How long did you wait for delivery?
It looks like 290 lwb high roof in trend spec. Did u get other options and is it 125 or 155 engine?

Looking forward to see how you rack it out.  Enjoy [big grin]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2015, 04:55 PM »
Very nice.  I've been looking to get same van myself. Think my existing one is going to let me down soon.
Stopped at Fords on way home today funny enough. Went through few figures with salesman.

Sorry Jmb but can I ask few questions.  Did u buy outright or finance options? How long did you wait for delivery?
It looks like 290 lwb high roof in trend spec. Did u get other options and is it 125 or 155 engine?

Looking forward to see how you rack it out.  Enjoy [big grin]

I bought the van out right.
I got the 330 L2 H2 Roof  2.2TDci 125ps Trend.
I added tow bar
Twin Battery with 240v socket
And added  LED LIGHTS in the back which are really bright and I think are a must have.

I ordered the Van on 01/06/15   It was suppose to be ready on 1/09/15 when the new Reg comes out but I received a call last Friday to say they recieved delivery of my van and I can come pick it up but it will be the old reg.  I gave it a thought... Then my old van helped me out because it decided to not let me use second gear. So now I was unable to use first and second gear so I thought I don't think my old van will make it to 1st September. The gear box was just getting worse and worse.




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Re: New Van
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2015, 05:04 PM »
Does the new van have a tacho fitted? You'll need one to tow that trailer... [unsure]

Umm not sure I do have to have a tecograph because I don't travel very far.  Most my jobs are local and I like to keep it that way plus if I am going to travel further I'll use my parents car   [big grin]
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Offline richy3333

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Re: New Van
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2015, 05:14 PM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5
Have a T6 on order (to replace my T5), really excited :)

Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2015, 05:15 PM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5
Have a T6 on order (to replace my T5), really excited :)
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Re: New Van
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2015, 05:19 PM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5
Have a T6 on order (to replace my T5), really excited :)

Might just be me but I can't see much difference between T5 n T6
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Re: New Van
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2015, 05:21 PM »
Errrr its got one of those horrible blue badges on the grille lol.

Just kidding those new transits are supposed to be good.

The new vw t6 is out soon that's the one I'd have if I had the money to upgrade my t5
Have a T6 on order (to replace my T5), really excited :)

Might just be me but I can't see much difference between T5 n T6

About fifteen grand?

Of course I am joking and jealous, and deadly serious.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2015, 05:22 PM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new

Offline MAK

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Re: New Van
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2015, 05:22 PM »
Thanks Jmb.
Yeah LED lights are great. Thinking about twin battery and socket, depends what dealer can find,  don't think I can wait too long.
I' m looking to lease finance strangely dealer worked out lease on limited spec cheaper than a trend.  I' m happy with that cos I want aircon which is standard with limited.

Let us know what you think of the 125 engine.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2015, 05:25 PM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new

Ah I haven't googled the interior I'll have a look.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2015, 05:32 PM »
Thanks Jmb.
Yeah LED lights are great. Thinking about twin battery and socket, depends what dealer can find,  don't think I can wait too long.
I' m looking to lease finance strangely dealer worked out lease on limited spec cheaper than a trend.  I' m happy with that cos I want aircon which is standard with limited.

Let us know what you think of the 125 engine.

I wasn't sure about aircon. I would like to have aircon but I wasn't to bothered.  If it came with it at no extra cost I would have had it but I didn't wanna spend more. 

That's funny.  Did you add aircon on the trend?  Not sure how limited can be cheaper than trend.

I started of with basic but I was adding extras here and there and it was becoming more expensive than trend and trend had everything I wanted so I went with trend.

So far I like the van 125ps but I do feel it might be underpowered for trailer towing.  I haven't given it some yet because it's all new.  I  just hit 100miles on the clock today  [big grin]



 
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Re: New Van
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2015, 02:49 AM »
Does the new van have a tacho fitted? You'll need one to tow that trailer... [unsure]

Just been Google mapping all my jobs furthest job I have is 24miles away the rest are 15miles or less  you require a tacho when you travel more than 33miles from your base.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 03:52 AM »
quote >>>So far I like the van 125ps but I do feel it might be underpowered for trailer towing.<<<

I recall seeing some rather rough local terrain in some of your previous posts.  I am putting two and two together and coming up with something other than 22.  You are mentioning you are (or were) having tranny problems with your old van.  Those problems often start with having under powered engine where one needs to be constantly shifting under even moderate loads.

You are hauling near maximum load, or maybe even a little more than max, when you are hauling your fork lift.  I hope you are not going to find tranny probs in a couple of years.  Those problems seldom show up right away.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2015, 05:16 AM »
quote >>>So far I like the van 125ps but I do feel it might be underpowered for trailer towing.<<<

I recall seeing some rather rough local terrain in some of your previous posts.  I am putting two and two together and coming up with something other than 22.  You are mentioning you are (or were) having tranny problems with your old van.  Those problems often start with having under powered engine where one needs to be constantly shifting under even moderate loads.

You are hauling near maximum load, or maybe even a little more than max, when you are hauling your fork lift.  I hope you are not going to find tranny probs in a couple of years.  Those problems seldom show up right away.
Tinker

Hi Tinker,

Yeah I know what you are saying but my old van NEVER towed the trailer once. Sorry thats not true I hitched the trailer once onto my van just to move the trailer out of the way lol. 

 I paid £500 to add a tow bar years ago onto my van just for show.  Waste of money  [crying]

I always used my parents 4x4 because it has a higher pulling load.

And my old van only done 57000 miles I had it for 7- 8 years. I bought it 6months old and they stuck 11000 miles on it. So I only done 46000 and it's only pretty much carried my tools most the time.  I have had drive shaft replacement that broke off and gear box failure

So to me Fiat = crap
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Re: New Van
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2015, 05:17 AM »
Does the new van have a tacho fitted? You'll need one to tow that trailer... [unsure]

Just did some researching on gov site
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Re: New Van
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2015, 07:35 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean? 
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Re: New Van
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2015, 07:45 AM »
It means his old van was a fiat and was rubbish!
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Re: New Van
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2015, 07:49 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2015, 07:55 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2015, 08:08 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.


Fiat = Fix it again Tony!

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Re: New Van
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2015, 11:05 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

My old van was a Fiat Scudo.  Fiat is the manufacturer.  I was warned by many fiat are crap but I didn't listen.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2015, 03:18 PM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new
That's pretty much it I think. Front is slightly different to the current T5, interior and all T6's are BLue Motion technology. Updated hifi/computer system.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2015, 03:25 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
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Re: New Van
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2015, 03:33 AM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new
That's pretty much it I think. Front is slightly different to the current T5, interior and all T6's are BLue Motion technology. Updated hifi/computer system.

Have they updated the wing mirrors?

My old Van fiat crap and my new van both have a large mirror but also a secondary mirror which I found invaluable for when I was reversing in tight spaces near very low walls.

My mate has the VW and it just has one large mirror.   

Saying that I preferred my fiat wing mirrors over the new ford.  The fiat split mirrors both had the same distance presective.

The ford although I like it I can see the roof and my wheels at the same time with the split mirror when driving/reversing in tight spaces I hate it that the lower mirror gives you a field distortion.

Looking through  the main mirror it seems like objects are close but the lower mirror they look 5x further away. 
Takes getting use to I'm sure I will just don't see any need for it to distort so much.

 

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Re: New Van
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2015, 04:04 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2015, 04:20 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2015, 07:42 AM »
quote>>>Looking through  the main mirror it seems like objects are close but the lower mirror they look 5x further away. 
Takes getting use to I'm sure I will just don't see any need for it to distort so much. <<<

For the reason they distort, there are times when they are indispensable. Are they in two sections and adjustable individually from drivers seat on the fly.  Or one piece. At any rate, most outside mirrors today are adjustable from driver's seat but push button.  On my pickup, the right mirror is distorted so i have wider field of vision.  drivers side is flat.  Both are fully adjustable and i make use of that feature according to the situation.  Town driving i set the mirrors one way.  super hi way, i set them for wider vision so i can see nearly 360º with minimal turning of my head.  I set both mirrors to see anything that is beside my truck to either side.  When backing into a job, I set them according to the immediate problem.  For some backing, i might stop and readjust as often as I need to cover all situations i can get into.

I think you will get used to your mirrors.  That wide angle is almost a must for you with no side windows along the back sides of the truck.  Learn to adjust according to the problem at hand... or at your back [unsure]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2015, 09:41 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2015, 11:00 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.

Yeah, sorry, it's my car as well as a van (hence the Kombi) but for something with 10bhp more, it feels like 50 less when you hit a hill. Lots of hills round my way.

Might be jacking it in for a Landy again, got that itch.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2015, 11:09 AM »
I've been thinking of making my panel van t5 into a day van/kombi. Only trouble being once you fit a window in the sliding door it becomes less secure for when I use it for work.

My old t4 was converted into a camper by a company down in Weymouth. I passed it on the m4 the other day ,small world :)

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Re: New Van
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2015, 02:49 PM »

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God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.
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I agree. My T5 is 140BHP and I've never had an issue fully laden on the Scottish hills. As you say it's a workhorse not a sports car.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2015, 02:51 PM »
I've been thinking of making my panel van t5 into a day van/kombi. Only trouble being once you fit a window in the sliding door it becomes less secure for when I use it for work.

My old t4 was converted into a camper by a company down in Weymouth. I passed it on the m4 the other day ,small world :)
Tax implications change also if it's no longer a 'van' and has windows and/or seats in it.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2015, 03:34 PM »

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God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.
I agree. My T5 is 140BHP and I've never had an issue fully laden on the Scottish hills. As you say it's a workhorse not a sports car.

Drive a T5 130bhp and then come back to me. That's a sports car  [smile] - so much more torque, they're known for it.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2015, 04:50 PM »
After sorting my workshop out and getting the stuff I needed  this is all I managed to get done to day.

I suppose it's a start lol

I used nut rivets to attach battens to van and then counter battens using pocket hole screws and then CNC'd holes for T-nuts

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Re: New Van
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2015, 05:54 PM »
Pics not working here?!
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Re: New Van
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2015, 06:17 PM »
Pics not working here?!

Really??

Refresh?

Yeah, they're fine here lads.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2015, 06:48 PM »
Wow an MFT van ;)

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Re: New Van
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2015, 07:05 PM »
Wow an MFT van ;)

should I paint it green?
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Re: New Van
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2015, 07:06 PM »
Are you using the holes for attachments

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Re: New Van
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2015, 07:12 PM »
 great start jmb.
first time hearing about rivet nuts. any info on them.
I got a new berlingo  last week. im going to ply it out in the next week hopefully
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Re: New Van
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2015, 11:30 PM »
As far as the tuning that was mentioned earlier, they will void the warranty and they are detectable.  I don't see why the computers would be different overseas than they are in the states.  I also am unsure of your environmental laws, but they really cracked down here.  My 06 Ram pickup had a 5.9l diesel and averaged 20mpg.  My 11 Ram has a 6.7l and averaged 13mpg.  It took a much larger motor to be detuned enough to run with the emissions items in place.  I know a lot of guys (across the big three US diesel brands) who have hit a bumpy road and somehow lost their emissions equipment.

If the warranty is important to you, leave the motor and its computer alone.  Little things like a cold air intake, may make a big difference (unfamiliar with those motors).

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« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2015, 02:34 AM »
Are you using the holes for attachments

Yeah.

I want to make it all modular.   

All holes are CNCd 90mm centers,  where a board will be joined it's 45mm centred from the edge so the 90mm centres carries on.

So I'll be able to Cnc brackets, boxes, glass holders, tools holder, T-loc trolleys etc.   Then using something like the festool knobs with bolts so quickly and easily attach all these to the sides.

I loved my old racking but a lot of the times I hated the fact I made it permanent because I was unable to transport goods I made.

 So I had to use trailer which isn't ideal when you made something out of solid oak and OAK veneer because it takes a good part of the day covering everything up and tying it down incase it rains.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2015, 02:44 AM »
great start jmb.
first time hearing about rivet nuts. any info on them.
I got a new berlingo  last week. im going to ply it out in the next week hopefully

They are really cheap!  The tools is the only main cost £40-100 depends on which one you buy.

Most vans have a lot of holes already in place which can be used for fixing.   So it's very much like a normal rivet but just big in diameter so that it has a hole with a thread. 

The tools has a threaded bar on it so you screw a rivet not onto the tools stick it into the hole in your van.  You then squeeze the tool which pulls the nut from the rear folding it.

You keep going until it's tight then unscrew the tool off and your left with a fixing point.

Im using M6 because 80% of the holes in my van for these perfectly.

Just gotta make sure they are tight fitted or they can rotate and that causes a headache.
 
Other than that they are brilliant they look professional instead of screwing self taping screws it.  If you ever remove or adapt your racking it's easier and they don't look out of place.

You also feel a lot safer using them because your less likely to cause damage to your van.  Like screwing into a cable or worse!! Using a screw to large and coming through your van!!'
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« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2015, 02:57 AM »
As far as the tuning that was mentioned earlier, they will void the warranty and they are detectable.  I don't see why the computers would be different overseas than they are in the states.  I also am unsure of your environmental laws, but they really cracked down here.  My 06 Ram pickup had a 5.9l diesel and averaged 20mpg.  My 11 Ram has a 6.7l and averaged 13mpg.  It took a much larger motor to be detuned enough to run with the emissions items in place.  I know a lot of guys (across the big three US diesel brands) who have hit a bumpy road and somehow lost their emissions equipment.

If the warranty is important to you, leave the motor and its computer alone.  Little things like a cold air intake, may make a big difference (unfamiliar with those motors).

Well wasn't planning on doing it. 

It's just it was mentioned as an option and it came across as an okay thing to do. So I questioned it .

I wouldn't risk doing anything like that while I have warranty.

Jesus 13mpg scary.

I have my Mpg on my van on continuous so it tells me real time what my van is doing.

It does alter the way you drive.  When I put my foot down it displays 7mpg

So I try not to now I like to keep it at the 45+mpg  love it when it displays 99mpg when I reached my speed and just cruising or rolling down hill lol.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2015, 03:17 AM »
Hi Jmb you're up early for Sunday,  all excited and wanting to get on with racking out the van?
I like the idea you have of modular system.  Good idea to make it removable for when you need to get big items in. I hope your keeping templates for when you do mine [wink]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2015, 04:37 AM »
Hi Jmb you're up early for Sunday,  all excited and wanting to get on with racking out the van?
I like the idea you have of modular system.  Good idea to make it removable for when you need to get big items in. I hope your keeping templates for when you do mine [wink]

Heehee

Would like to get started on Van but got a job to sort out first I'll be on it later.  I ran out of T-nuts though.  Didn't actually count how many I needed I just took a box thinking that will keep me going for a while lol.  So I won't be able to fix the panels on but I can finish off all the pattning and have them all cut ready.

Well that's the Nice thing about a Cnc.  Save all the files.

However I am not having the Cnc cutting the  full shape because that would require to much time  with sample cut pieces going back and forth etc..    So I just get the rough area like the arch area so that I don't drill any holes in that area and cut it out by hand.

It's not worth the hassle.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2015, 04:54 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.


Fiat = Fix it again Tony!

Ford=Fix or replace daily
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Re: New Van
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2015, 07:00 AM »
After sorting my workshop out and getting the stuff I needed  this is all I managed to get done to day.

I suppose it's a start lol

I used nut rivets to attach battens to van and then counter battens using pocket hole screws and then CNC'd holes for T-nuts

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Pics finally working! Looking good i like that idea. I was thinking of a similar kind of modular thing using uni strut but i think your idea might work better.

I do the same with the mpg. Average is 35 at the moment and lots of that is in town.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2015, 05:37 PM »
Sorry for the delay!! Just been so busy.

Next weekend hopefully get onto creating the modules for the systainers/T-locs

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Re: New Van
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2015, 05:56 PM »
500 t-nuts..... Yay!



Kinda wish they made vans straight inside would have made it easier to get it all straight.
Had to come out to 100+mm to get it all straight.



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Re: New Van
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2015, 06:12 PM »
Very neat job Jmb.
How are you finding the van?  Test drove one this week 125 engine same as yours but want to try the 155.

Can I ask why you kept the floor liner and not put ply on floor? It seemed very slippery to me
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Re: New Van
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2015, 06:15 PM »
Jmb I didn't know you were starting a mobile in-van climbing wall!!
Seriously thou, it looks awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing how you make use of all those t nuts

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Re: New Van
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2015, 06:37 PM »
Very neat job Jmb.
How are you finding the van?  Test drove one this week 125 engine same as yours but want to try the 155.

Can I ask why you kept the floor liner and not put ply on floor? It seemed very slippery to me


Although I felt the 125 didn't have much grunt... Acceleration... to be honest even when I had a van full of tools it pretty much drove the same.  So for me the 125 is fine.

I was seeing how well I would go on with the floor liner.   I like it but at the same time dislike it.

Like you say it is a little slippery but all my tools and materials (when I'm finished) will be fixed so it doesn't mater. 
Another thing which annoyed me when I left my side door open the sun was shinning on the liner and it all bubbled up like a bouncy castle.  Obviously the van being totally empty there is nothing to keep it weighted down but it's a poor design.

Saying that it's light and if I do a ply floor I am just adding more weight and cost and time.  I can always do it on a later date.  The panels are all above the liner even where the liner mould goes up the sides so I should be able to remove the liner if I ever needed to or add ply flooring no problem.

 
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Re: New Van
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2015, 06:45 PM »
Jmb I didn't know you were starting a mobile in-van climbing wall!!
Seriously thou, it looks awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing how you make use of all those t nuts

I could park the van on a hill to make the climbing more challenging.

I my self don't know what I'm going to do with all the t-nuts yet lol.  I'm just winging it.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2015, 06:45 AM »
Looks good son far though.  Is the workshop done ?  Any new pics ?
If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too

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Re: New Van
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2015, 06:32 PM »
My design had to have 3 things.

Easy removal
Adaptable
Compatible with my workshop

I think I have achieved this.

I haven't finished still got some shelves to add and brackets for my festool rails and spirit levels etc.

But at least now it's not doing my head in going to jobs hearing everything sliding about and having it all on top of each other not being able to get at anything easily.

So here are so more pictures.

Instead of making a complete unit for the festool boxes I have made light weight yet sturdy individual boxes for every systainer/T-loc well I say every.... I haven't got round to making one for every box I own yet

This allows me to just add or remove the tools I want for specific jobs.
It allows me access to every box even when they are stacked on top of each other this is either in my van or in my workshop.

So instead of having empty shelves or spaces in my workshop when my van has them stored I'm not wasting space in two places. They either take up space in my van or in my workshop not both. I'm simply going to make trolleys so they can come out off my van and be trolleyed around my workshop. 

I kept thinking I'll make a large racking unit with draws for my T-locks/Systainers but then it's more cost and when the Systainers/T-locs are not in their place it's just dead space for no reason.

Then I do the same in my van and I've  wasted double the amount of space.

 Then to add to this if I wanted to remove my racking from my van because I wanted to load a pallet or a large unit into my van then I would have to store my van racking in my workshop.   

So that's when I decided I wanted my van racking to be part of my workshop racking.

Anyway pictures!!
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Re: New Van
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2015, 02:23 AM »
Well done jmb that is looking great it must be the most modular van out there I really like the boxes. It must have been a heck of a lot of work but it will be so worth it in the end

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Re: New Van
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2015, 02:50 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

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Re: New Van
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2015, 03:25 AM »
Great job. Love the way you have sorted the space wasted in workshop or van by moving the storage. Might have to steal your ideas [big grin]. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2015, 03:49 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

That's nothing, wait till he mounts the CNC on the roof [wink]

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Re: New Van
« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2015, 06:02 AM »
Well done jmb that is looking great it must be the most modular van out there I really like the boxes. It must have been a heck of a lot of work but it will be so worth it in the end

Yes more work than I had anticipated. Then again I had no idea what I was planning on doing.
I spent some time just stareing into the van lol.

Few things already I would change slightly but nothing to bother me or could alter later if I wanted.  Benefit to modular
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Re: New Van
« Reply #79 on: September 04, 2015, 06:03 AM »
Theres a guy on the Stanley forum doing a VW t5 but he has built a metal frame and its all for dewalt boxes. Same sort of thing hes put a lot of thought into it too

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198
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« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2015, 06:51 AM »
Theres a guy on the Stanley forum doing a VW t5 but he has built a metal frame and its all for dewalt boxes. Same sort of thing hes put a lot of thought into it too

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198

I like his racking nice.

Works well.   The Dewalt brackets are a good idea.

Just thinking if I could do the same with the T-locks/Systainers.

I would struggle to make them sturdy I think plus il loose the stacking feature in the workshop.

Ummm  might use it for my CT26 VAC. 

I've currently just strapped it but I want to create a proper home for it later on.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2015, 06:54 AM »
Good thing with yours Brett is that you could sell the plans just like Ron paulk, etc, as they're CNC.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #82 on: September 04, 2015, 08:23 AM »
Great ideas, JMB.  How much hastle is it to set each tray when loading/unloading?

Just a thought: Do you use a large flat washer with each bolt?  To use washer headed bolts I don't think would be enough.  Eventually, the heads would start to chew into the wood frames they are holding. 
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Re: New Van
« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2015, 09:57 AM »
Great ideas, JMB.  How much hastle is it to set each tray when loading/unloading?

Just a thought: Do you use a large flat washer with each bolt?  To use washer headed bolts I don't think would be enough.  Eventually, the heads would start to chew into the wood frames they are holding. 
Tinker

Yeah I do.  At the time I didn't have any other bolts which fitted the 10mm thread.  So the ones in the picture you can see are just temp. It allowed me to be able to put them in place and get a feel.  I'll get a picture of the bolts I actually used for final fixing.

It's very  easy to set up because the panels and the backs of the units are CNC'd. When you stick four bolts in they automatically straighten up all you have to do is slide them up or down.

Once you have the first row set job done rest just fallow on.

They are strong enough to hold my boxes but I feel with the roads I drive on bouncing about and a lot of corners I have made some module legs and bracket to give extra support to the stacks which are floating.   This also speeds up setting up time because you place them on first and the job done.   I'll take some pictures.
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« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2015, 10:08 AM »
Good thing with yours Brett is that you could sell the plans just like Ron paulk, etc, as they're CNC.

Yeah. Only down side is I only part CNC'd it.  Panels are CNC'd and I just didn't Cnc holes roughly where I was going to cut out for let's say my arches because I thought it would be quicker for me seen as its a one off.

Also the units for the t-locks/Systainers are all made up with off cuts birch ply I have in my work shop I ripped down to 50mm.   I have enough off cuts to rack out 10vans lol.  Only the backs are CNC'd which are made with off cuts also. 

If it wasn't for me wanting to get rid of my of fcuts and make use of them. I think it would have been better of in terms of time to Cnc the lot from a sheet.  I think in terms of cost per sheet and my time I recon just spending money on a sheet would have been more cost affective. 

Although I have built a prototype pocket hole machine and I am in the process of drawing up a final design to Cnc the pocket hole machine. It's still a slower process than a CNC'd version

I'll get some pictures how I would have done the joints instead of pocket holes.  I made these with off cuts and was planning on making  flat pack says-rack out of birch with draws.
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« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2015, 10:11 AM »
WOW! Thats sooo cool. I love it. Just what I wanted but didn't have the vision. Absolutely lovely mate :)

That's nothing, wait till he mounts the CNC on the roof [wink]

Got me thinking now...
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Re: New Van
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2015, 01:53 PM »
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Re: New Van
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2015, 02:01 PM »
@joiner1970

This is better than pocket holes.  Much stronger, quicker in terms of labour time for me.   They are solid even dry fitted no glue.  Really hard to get them apart and hold square once they are all tapped in.

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This is my prototype it's had few modifications over its life span.  It was horizontal but my back was hurting after doing 800pocket holes in a row. Also it was foot operated at one point but that hurt over time because it was hard to keep your foot up and down. 

Just did another 800 pocket holes in a row last week having it like it is now much better on my back and I managed to do them all without stopping having some passing and taking the parts from me.  I was litterly like a machine.  My arm felt like Popeye!

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« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2015, 02:04 PM »
Oops forgot to add

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Re: New Van
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2015, 04:41 PM »
Wow that's a great job. I was wondering how you was going to construct the modules.
Fantastic JMB ;D
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Re: New Van
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2015, 07:59 PM »
JMB, Time and again, you prove to be quite inventive.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2015, 10:05 AM »
A super, refreshing and modular approach, well done.

Your "sys docks" kind of remind of Bosch 1600A001SC i-BOXX Inactive Racks.  Though in your instance the dock is holding the systainer whereas the Bosch is the outer shell of a Boxx designed to accept a smaller box; if that makes sense.

Good job, more to follow I hope.

Threads like this always prove popular.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #93 on: September 05, 2015, 02:16 PM »
A super, refreshing and modular approach, well done.

Your "sys docks" kind of remind of Bosch 1600A001SC i-BOXX Inactive Racks.  Though in your instance the dock is holding the systainer whereas the Bosch is the outer shell of a Boxx designed to accept a smaller box; if that makes sense.

Good job, more to follow I hope.

Threads like this always prove popular.

Yeah makes sense just googled them. Never knew Bosch made them.

What I would like festool to do is copy my design but add a few design features which for me to do would be to difficult.

I would like to see festool do a similar design but instead off making all different sizes to fit each box size they can make just two size which are adjustable.
So have a small and large. The small will take the small boxes to medium size T-loca/systainers and the large will do medium to large T-loc/Sys.

The adjustment can be like two metal rods with a plastic horizontal which was independent which slides up or down with indentations for location to support the unit above.

Another feature they could do to replace my million holes I cnced they could sell rods/bars which you fix to your van and their units clip onto them and just unclip no screwing/unscrewing

i would buy them. If I knew what I was doing I would get them manufactured as after market accessories but I don't  [sad]

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Re: New Van
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2015, 03:28 PM »
Quote >>> If I knew what I was doing I would get them manufactured as after market accessories but I don't  [sad] <<<

JMB, niether do any of the rest of us. [poke]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2015, 05:24 PM »
Well being able to remove the module boxes came in handy yesterday getting all the sheets in.


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Re: New Van
« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2015, 05:32 PM »
Oh and the bright light isn't the Sun but my vans super bright LED lights  [tongue]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #97 on: September 27, 2015, 05:05 AM »
JMB quote>>> If it wasn't for me wanting to get rid of my of fcuts and make use of them. I think it would have been better of in terms of time to Cnc the lot from a sheet.  I think in terms of cost per sheet and my time I recon just spending money on a sheet would have been more cost affective.  <<<

The biggest part of my problem in my own small shop space has been the scraps ("off cuts").  a lot of the smaller scraps i save for kindling for my son.  everything else gets piled in corners, leaning against walls (too little wallspace to begin with), leaning against work benches and just plain cluttering the floor (not much floor space to begin with either).  I am building shelves that are screwed into wall studs.  If i change my mind about placement, about four screws for each shelf set is all that is necessary.  Since all is being constructed with scrap wood, nothing really matches up.  i spend a lot of time searching thru scraps just to find the closest fit.

One thing that is happening by now is, i don't have such an assortment to search thru as when i started.  A lot of mixes of pine, fir, tulip, 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4 ply in all grades.  It probably would have been a whole lot quicker for me to just go out and buy the lumber to do the job, draw up plans and lay everything out so i could mass produce.  But then, i would have ended up with a bigger pile of offcuts.  Probably would have to build a separate shop, after which, i wood have a bigger pile of scraps.  [scared]

Oh well, I am looking thru stacks of plans and pics of very small projects for ideas for Christmas.  Those will make use of the scraps from my shop shelves project that has been done with scraps.  [unsure]

BTW:  I used to dump the sawdust and planer shavings out in the woods or take to the landfill.  I now save the coarser planings and shavings for my driveway in the winter.  I used sand for years and would spread from my sander along with about 30 other driveways on my snow plow route.  I used what was left in the sander when finished with my route and always had some on hand. I always worked it to have a few wheelbarrow loads left in the hopper in case a customer called with an emergency.  Last winter, my son, who is partner with me in the sno plow biz, took over the sanding.  One of his crew from his excavating biz now does the sanding.  I somehow get lost on the list every now and then, putting me even further down on the list beyond being last.  I have found that the sawdust seems even better than sand.  As the ice and snow melts, sand always sings to the bottom during the day and then the soft ice gets real hard  by nite.  It will always stay hard once the salt/sand sinks down thru and it is icy till another application.  The sawdust does not sink thru, but a lot stays on top so we have a bit of grit until we get more snow.  I have a customer whose husband is handicapped and we need to supply extra sand around the garage and at end of ramp to the house.  I am going to leave them with a couple of large containers for emergencies or for while they are waiting for us to bring sand. 

Yeah, offcuts are useful, even when they get down to dust sized cutoffs.  ::)   Oh! and THE BOSS likes the sawdust much better.  When it gets tracked into the house, it is MUCH easier to cleanup than sand and salt  ::)
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Re: New Van
« Reply #98 on: September 27, 2015, 05:16 AM »
The adjustment can be like two metal rods with a plastic horizontal which was independent which slides up or down with indentations for location to support the unit above.

Reminds me of the Dewalt Tough System https://stanleytools.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6198


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Re: New Van
« Reply #99 on: September 27, 2015, 07:54 AM »
I love the t-nut concept! Brilliant way to have future adjustment.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2015, 06:48 AM »
Jmb any more progress?

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Re: New Van
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2015, 02:32 PM »
great design!
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Re: New Van
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2015, 03:55 PM »
No not yet sorry.

I might get some done this weekend.

I'm helping my mate render my workshop so depends how far we get.
If we go over into Sunday then I'll be able to some work on my van.   If we just work sat then I'm going to do a roof job on Sunday.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2015, 04:33 PM »
JMB, if you had more syslites, you could work round the clock. What are you, lazy?
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Re: New Van
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2016, 09:35 AM »
Just resurrecting old thread.
How's it working out for u jmb?
Is your system making it is easier for you?

How's the van in general? Do u think it's a good van?
I'm still looking might bite the bullet and get a brand new one, might get the low roof model but think I'll miss the space a high roof gives you.

Let us know how you getting on.
Thanks
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Re: New Van
« Reply #105 on: July 30, 2016, 04:48 AM »
Just resurrecting old thread.
How's it working out for u jmb?
Is your system making it is easier for you?

How's the van in general? Do u think it's a good van?
I'm still looking might bite the bullet and get a brand new one, might get the low roof model but think I'll miss the space a high roof gives you.

Let us know how you getting on.
Thanks
Mike

Sorry i read your message and forgot to reply  [huh]

I like the Van!
It drives nice. Prefer driving my van than our car 😆

Sooo so far so good.

My only main problem with the van and it is extremlly annoying are the locking arms for the rear doors. They are terrible! God knows why Ford decided to design them like that.

Only good thing about the locking arms are they are strong and I dont think they will ever fail. However I know mine will never fail because I have removed the springs and rarly use them unless I have to because of wind or parked on a hill.

Reason I removed springs because they almost smashed some double glazing I had in my van.  Plus hated having to use two hands to shut each door EVERY time.

They also ruin how you want to rack your van out because they slide along the inside of the van.

So yeah they do ruin the van.

Electrician bought one and when I seen him on a job I had look at his van and he removed the locking arms all together.

I have been looking at them in hope I could swap them round so they run along the door instead.
No go.

Would it stop me buying the van???? No!! But it wouldnt stop me moaning at the dealer about it if I had know at the time.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #106 on: August 01, 2016, 05:10 PM »
Thanks jmb.

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Re: New Van
« Reply #107 on: August 01, 2016, 05:13 PM »
Thanks jmb.


Lol wasnt super helpfull i know

If you do get the van make sure you get the LED lights in the back of the van. £80 well worth it!


Super bright! Bright enough to light up outside to work in.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #108 on: November 23, 2017, 02:29 PM »
how is this van set up holding up jmb. anything to change
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Re: New Van
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2017, 12:49 PM »
how is this van set up holding up jmb. anything to change

Hi Alan,

It been solid and brilliant only damage I managed...... twice 😂 was when loading up my van with a ton bag of sand using my forklift I knocked my racking so damaged two boxes but easy fix because being module i was able to just remove damage and replace.

However I’ve now removed all my racking and scrapped it because I’ve come up with a new design it’s same but foldable. It’s because I’m transporting more stuff now like kitchens and furniture which I need room in my van for but even though this design was easy to remove I still didn’t think it was quick enough. I want something which can simply Fold flat out of the way so I don’t have loads of racking sitting in my workshop either.

Just been so busy not had time to build the new MK3 racking
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Re: New Van
« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2017, 02:11 PM »
Good to see you posting again James
Loving the Calif sun....

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Re: New Van
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2017, 04:02 PM »
Good to see you posting again James

👋 hello

Yeah sorry I have been active just been very busy

 Facebook talk groups is where I’ve been active which I find easier and quicker to post than FOG just feels like it takes more effort and slower. 

Plus responses on here more for next day viewing rather than instant.

I’ll see when I get some picture to post some projects again on FoG get some interest going



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Re: New Van
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2017, 04:03 PM »
Good to see you posting again James

How was the move? Enjoying life?
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Re: New Van
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2017, 08:44 AM »
The move hehehehe well still unpacking and going through all the crap we brought back and all the crap we had in storage. retirement is nice spending lots of time in the shop organizing it and setting it up having the time to ove things around until I find the best place for them.

I definitely dont miss work, I do eed to get into a routine though. Maybe take some more courses.
Loving the Calif sun....

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Re: New Van
« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2017, 02:37 AM »
The move hehehehe well still unpacking and going through all the crap we brought back and all the crap we had in storage. retirement is nice spending lots of time in the shop organizing it and setting it up having the time to ove things around until I find the best place for them.

I definitely dont miss work, I do eed to get into a routine though. Maybe take some more courses.

What kinda courses?   Always best keep busy. I can’t imagine not having a job to do. 

If just been on a spray course last week 😂. Bored of joinery now going to paint houses 😂.

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