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Offline jimbouk

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Re: New Van
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2015, 07:45 AM »
It means his old van was a fiat and was rubbish!
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Offline jimbouk

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Re: New Van
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2015, 07:49 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.
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Offline Wuffles

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Re: New Van
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2015, 07:55 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.
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Offline DB10

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Re: New Van
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2015, 08:08 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

Fiat are the parent company of Ferrari.


Fiat = Fix it again Tony!

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2015, 11:05 AM »
quote>>>So to me Fiat = crap<<<
What does that mean?

My old van was a Fiat Scudo.  Fiat is the manufacturer.  I was warned by many fiat are crap but I didn't listen.
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Offline richy3333

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Re: New Van
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2015, 03:18 PM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new
That's pretty much it I think. Front is slightly different to the current T5, interior and all T6's are BLue Motion technology. Updated hifi/computer system.

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2015, 03:25 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2015, 03:33 AM »
It looks similar to the T5.1 , I think there's a few new gadgets on it and the interior is all new
That's pretty much it I think. Front is slightly different to the current T5, interior and all T6's are BLue Motion technology. Updated hifi/computer system.

Have they updated the wing mirrors?

My old Van fiat crap and my new van both have a large mirror but also a secondary mirror which I found invaluable for when I was reversing in tight spaces near very low walls.

My mate has the VW and it just has one large mirror.   

Saying that I preferred my fiat wing mirrors over the new ford.  The fiat split mirrors both had the same distance presective.

The ford although I like it I can see the roof and my wheels at the same time with the split mirror when driving/reversing in tight spaces I hate it that the lower mirror gives you a field distortion.

Looking through  the main mirror it seems like objects are close but the lower mirror they look 5x further away. 
Takes getting use to I'm sure I will just don't see any need for it to distort so much.

 

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Offline jimbouk

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Re: New Van
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2015, 04:04 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.
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Offline Wuffles

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Re: New Van
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2015, 04:20 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
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Offline Tinker

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Re: New Van
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2015, 07:42 AM »
quote>>>Looking through  the main mirror it seems like objects are close but the lower mirror they look 5x further away. 
Takes getting use to I'm sure I will just don't see any need for it to distort so much. <<<

For the reason they distort, there are times when they are indispensable. Are they in two sections and adjustable individually from drivers seat on the fly.  Or one piece. At any rate, most outside mirrors today are adjustable from driver's seat but push button.  On my pickup, the right mirror is distorted so i have wider field of vision.  drivers side is flat.  Both are fully adjustable and i make use of that feature according to the situation.  Town driving i set the mirrors one way.  super hi way, i set them for wider vision so i can see nearly 360º with minimal turning of my head.  I set both mirrors to see anything that is beside my truck to either side.  When backing into a job, I set them according to the immediate problem.  For some backing, i might stop and readjust as often as I need to cover all situations i can get into.

I think you will get used to your mirrors.  That wide angle is almost a must for you with no side windows along the back sides of the truck.  Learn to adjust according to the problem at hand... or at your back [unsure]
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2015, 09:41 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.

Offline Wuffles

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Re: New Van
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2015, 11:00 AM »
Jmb i have the custom 125 after last one got rear ended earlier in the year. Wasnt written off but wasnt happy with it after so got this one on a serviced package for 4 years. Costs 10 quid a day. Got the limited l2 but went for the low roof in the end as the high roof had a massive wait time and i needed to sort it quick. Tbh i think the 125 is a little gutless but can easily be tuned if your bothered by it.

Would that not void the warranty?
No idea. Not something i would bother with.

Without even getting into the whole insurance debate, people will sell you a demountable tuning option that could be considered a box of placebo power that doesn't damage the warranty as you take it off before servicing. Read enough about them though and they are just nonsense really.

Proper tuning (certainly for the T5) can be done for a similar price (about £400) and some claim it's not visible by service centre, some don't.

When mine drops out of warranty (if I keep it) I'll be getting my 140 Kombi tuned as it's gutless as heck compared to my older 130 panel van. Lost a cylinder from the older model, just no torque in comparison.
God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.

Yeah, sorry, it's my car as well as a van (hence the Kombi) but for something with 10bhp more, it feels like 50 less when you hit a hill. Lots of hills round my way.

Might be jacking it in for a Landy again, got that itch.
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2015, 11:09 AM »
I've been thinking of making my panel van t5 into a day van/kombi. Only trouble being once you fit a window in the sliding door it becomes less secure for when I use it for work.

My old t4 was converted into a camper by a company down in Weymouth. I passed it on the m4 the other day ,small world :)

Offline richy3333

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Re: New Van
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2015, 02:49 PM »

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God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.
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I agree. My T5 is 140BHP and I've never had an issue fully laden on the Scottish hills. As you say it's a workhorse not a sports car.

Offline richy3333

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Re: New Van
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2015, 02:51 PM »
I've been thinking of making my panel van t5 into a day van/kombi. Only trouble being once you fit a window in the sliding door it becomes less secure for when I use it for work.

My old t4 was converted into a camper by a company down in Weymouth. I passed it on the m4 the other day ,small world :)
Tax implications change also if it's no longer a 'van' and has windows and/or seats in it.

Offline Wuffles

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Re: New Van
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2015, 03:34 PM »

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God knows what you'd think of my 102 then lol.

It's a work horse not a sports car so that does me fine and its never felt sluggish to me.
I agree. My T5 is 140BHP and I've never had an issue fully laden on the Scottish hills. As you say it's a workhorse not a sports car.

Drive a T5 130bhp and then come back to me. That's a sports car  [smile] - so much more torque, they're known for it.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2015, 04:50 PM »
After sorting my workshop out and getting the stuff I needed  this is all I managed to get done to day.

I suppose it's a start lol

I used nut rivets to attach battens to van and then counter battens using pocket hole screws and then CNC'd holes for T-nuts

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Offline jimbouk

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Re: New Van
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2015, 05:54 PM »
Pics not working here?!
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Offline Wuffles

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Re: New Van
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2015, 06:17 PM »
Pics not working here?!

Really??

Refresh?

Yeah, they're fine here lads.
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2015, 06:48 PM »
Wow an MFT van ;)

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2015, 07:05 PM »
Wow an MFT van ;)

should I paint it green?
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: New Van
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2015, 07:06 PM »
Are you using the holes for attachments

Offline Alan m

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Re: New Van
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2015, 07:12 PM »
 great start jmb.
first time hearing about rivet nuts. any info on them.
I got a new berlingo  last week. im going to ply it out in the next week hopefully
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Offline travisj

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Re: New Van
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2015, 11:30 PM »
As far as the tuning that was mentioned earlier, they will void the warranty and they are detectable.  I don't see why the computers would be different overseas than they are in the states.  I also am unsure of your environmental laws, but they really cracked down here.  My 06 Ram pickup had a 5.9l diesel and averaged 20mpg.  My 11 Ram has a 6.7l and averaged 13mpg.  It took a much larger motor to be detuned enough to run with the emissions items in place.  I know a lot of guys (across the big three US diesel brands) who have hit a bumpy road and somehow lost their emissions equipment.

If the warranty is important to you, leave the motor and its computer alone.  Little things like a cold air intake, may make a big difference (unfamiliar with those motors).

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2015, 02:34 AM »
Are you using the holes for attachments

Yeah.

I want to make it all modular.   

All holes are CNCd 90mm centers,  where a board will be joined it's 45mm centred from the edge so the 90mm centres carries on.

So I'll be able to Cnc brackets, boxes, glass holders, tools holder, T-loc trolleys etc.   Then using something like the festool knobs with bolts so quickly and easily attach all these to the sides.

I loved my old racking but a lot of the times I hated the fact I made it permanent because I was unable to transport goods I made.

 So I had to use trailer which isn't ideal when you made something out of solid oak and OAK veneer because it takes a good part of the day covering everything up and tying it down incase it rains.
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Re: New Van
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2015, 02:44 AM »
great start jmb.
first time hearing about rivet nuts. any info on them.
I got a new berlingo  last week. im going to ply it out in the next week hopefully

They are really cheap!  The tools is the only main cost £40-100 depends on which one you buy.

Most vans have a lot of holes already in place which can be used for fixing.   So it's very much like a normal rivet but just big in diameter so that it has a hole with a thread. 

The tools has a threaded bar on it so you screw a rivet not onto the tools stick it into the hole in your van.  You then squeeze the tool which pulls the nut from the rear folding it.

You keep going until it's tight then unscrew the tool off and your left with a fixing point.

Im using M6 because 80% of the holes in my van for these perfectly.

Just gotta make sure they are tight fitted or they can rotate and that causes a headache.
 
Other than that they are brilliant they look professional instead of screwing self taping screws it.  If you ever remove or adapt your racking it's easier and they don't look out of place.

You also feel a lot safer using them because your less likely to cause damage to your van.  Like screwing into a cable or worse!! Using a screw to large and coming through your van!!'
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Van
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2015, 02:57 AM »
As far as the tuning that was mentioned earlier, they will void the warranty and they are detectable.  I don't see why the computers would be different overseas than they are in the states.  I also am unsure of your environmental laws, but they really cracked down here.  My 06 Ram pickup had a 5.9l diesel and averaged 20mpg.  My 11 Ram has a 6.7l and averaged 13mpg.  It took a much larger motor to be detuned enough to run with the emissions items in place.  I know a lot of guys (across the big three US diesel brands) who have hit a bumpy road and somehow lost their emissions equipment.

If the warranty is important to you, leave the motor and its computer alone.  Little things like a cold air intake, may make a big difference (unfamiliar with those motors).

Well wasn't planning on doing it. 

It's just it was mentioned as an option and it came across as an okay thing to do. So I questioned it .

I wouldn't risk doing anything like that while I have warranty.

Jesus 13mpg scary.

I have my Mpg on my van on continuous so it tells me real time what my van is doing.

It does alter the way you drive.  When I put my foot down it displays 7mpg

So I try not to now I like to keep it at the 45+mpg  love it when it displays 99mpg when I reached my speed and just cruising or rolling down hill lol.
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Offline MAK

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Re: New Van
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2015, 03:17 AM »
Hi Jmb you're up early for Sunday,  all excited and wanting to get on with racking out the van?
I like the idea you have of modular system.  Good idea to make it removable for when you need to get big items in. I hope your keeping templates for when you do mine [wink]
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Re: New Van
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2015, 04:37 AM »
Hi Jmb you're up early for Sunday,  all excited and wanting to get on with racking out the van?
I like the idea you have of modular system.  Good idea to make it removable for when you need to get big items in. I hope your keeping templates for when you do mine [wink]

Heehee

Would like to get started on Van but got a job to sort out first I'll be on it later.  I ran out of T-nuts though.  Didn't actually count how many I needed I just took a box thinking that will keep me going for a while lol.  So I won't be able to fix the panels on but I can finish off all the pattning and have them all cut ready.

Well that's the Nice thing about a Cnc.  Save all the files.

However I am not having the Cnc cutting the  full shape because that would require to much time  with sample cut pieces going back and forth etc..    So I just get the rough area like the arch area so that I don't drill any holes in that area and cut it out by hand.

It's not worth the hassle.

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