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Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2016, 06:17 PM »
I am using the 5/8" XP for the next layer of my entire shop, ceiling too and its fire rated Type X. I dont think the 1/2" XP is.  I think thats your basement, I might consider using the 5/8", at least on the ceiling.

My brother is telling me the Georgia Pacific is better and this Purple XP stuff is prone to very easy edge breakage.

This product cost a heck of a lot more money than regular drywall, I am hoping it works out for me.
Yes,it is the fire rated 5/8" xp that I am using. The few places that I called, they said they do not sell the 1/2" due to lack of customers. If this won't work, then I wasted a big money.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2016, 01:18 AM »
Hi Folks,
The wall and ceiling is done. I have been working on this since Sunday. This is just primer and one coat of paint but I will put another coat all over the shop after grinding the floor is done.





Floor is next, Tomorrow, I am leaving at lunch time and I called the local hardware store to deliver the concrete grinder at 1pm for me. If nothing goes wrong, I think I will finish it about 5 hours. The floor is going to be 100% solid industrial epoxy and will be done in 4 steps. Another good news that I had today was, my two machines are finally here and will be deliver to me on Friday morning.
 

Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2016, 03:50 AM »
@HAXIT Don't forget to seal all duct openings and doorways.  The dust from grinding of concrete can permeaeevery room in the house.  Don't ask how I know. 

Oh, what the heck, I can't resist.  I once ran into a delivery problem with a floor pour in cold weather. First load came right on time. first  delivery in morning from supplier.  second was supposed to arrive at 8:30 or 9 o'clock.  It finally arrived, after burning phone lines, at around 4pm and getting dark with temp plummeting into the twenties.  Needless to say, some serious repairs were required later on. I rented a grinder for a day during Christmas/New Year week while owner would be away on Ski trip.  I sealed all doorways into the main house and proceded to grind away. A dayor so after New Years Day, I got a call from the builder on the job to call the owners.

The owners happened to be a pair of Cranky Yankees from the  hills of Vermont.  I had really hit it off with them as they were he sort of people and humor that I had grown up with in he Berkshire hills of Massachusetts.  I liked them and he felig was reciprocal. I called as directed.  Isthmus they had jut gotten home about two hours earlier and from the ton of he man's voice and the ringing in my ears, I could sense a little, this is a story about a Cranky Yankee, remember!. That phone was exploding in my ear.

It seems they were greeted with a hin film of white dust over everything in the house. The dut had permeated to even between bed sheets and all closeted clothing. I offered to come over to help with the cleaning.

"Tinker!!!  If you show your face in this house, I'll kill you!!!!!"

We did end up as friends once again, but it was my good forune they were the sort of family who did not carry a grudge.  I did many more jobs for them.  when i retired from mason biz, i even took care of their yard for a few years until they moved away.

What had caused the dust problem? Even though i sealed all doorways, i had forgoten about closing off heating return duct covers.

I can immagine that with your attention to detail, you would not make a mitook like that, but just thought i'd remind you. ::)
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2016, 12:59 AM »
Tinker,
Your reminding is much appreciated.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2016, 01:28 AM »
Even though, I was sure that my concrete floor had no moisture but again I did the test before order anything just to make sure.
I taped dawn a 2' x 3' plastic on the floor and opened it up after 24 hours. If you can see any concrete discoloration, moister or water dripping from the plastic, then epoxy flooring would not be a good idea but the test result was very promising.





Here is how the floor is looks like before.



 

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2016, 02:04 AM »
Step 1: Concrete prep
I know that the most popular and cheapest way is acid wash but I do not like the method. The concrete prep is the heart of this process and should not be undertaken if good flooring result is desired.
This is how I set it up to minimize the dust. I changed the regular filter in the shop vac and replace it with the universal concrete dust filter and put two fans in the front of the windows. I took this picture before covering the duct opening and electric panel but they will be closed. The duct opening will stay closed all the time till end of the project because I want to maintain the even temperature and humidity.



I finished grinding in 4 hours and vacuumed three times to make sure there is no dust left on the floor. Here how it is looks like now.



     

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2016, 02:17 AM »
Step 2: The floor is covered with epoxy primer and checking for desired  humidity and temperature.



   

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2016, 12:00 PM »
It is finally here.


Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2016, 12:14 PM »
I'm assuming that is a garage, and not that you tore everything apart.  [scared]

BTW Your floor, as everything else you have done, looks great. As long as the floor is not wet underneath the concrete, you should have no problem except possibly from condensation. If the subfloor is wet (it appears not to be) you can xpect condensation problems.
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2016, 04:55 PM »
Your workshop is gonna look great Haxit  !!
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2016, 05:52 AM »
I'm assuming that is a garage, and not that you tore everything apart.  [scared]

BTW Your floor, as everything else you have done, looks great. As long as the floor is not wet underneath the concrete, you should have no problem except possibly from condensation. If the subfloor is wet (it appears not to be) you can xpect condensation problems.
Tinker
Yes, it is the garage or more correctly the old shop in the past, transit for new tools at the time and welding shop in the future.
Isn't garage was made to park the car? Not when I own it. [big grin]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2016, 05:54 AM »
Your workshop is gonna look great Haxit  !!
Thanks and let's hope so. [wink]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2016, 06:26 AM »
Step 3&4 and the result.
After primer the base coat went on the top then I had to broadcast the color chips and after 12 hours put the top coat on.
So, the floor is three layer and the color that I chose was mid gray with three colors white,black and neon green chips.
Here is the close up pic.



And the result.





Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2016, 06:55 AM »
@HAXIT My first thought was "Ah ha, He wants to hide the dust"  And then i realized who was doing the job and for whom. After looking/reviewing all of your progress, I can't imagine any spec of dust hanging around for any measurable time on that floor. [blink]
All kidding aside, I really like that idea for your floor. It looks great. Can't wait to see all of your toys in there.
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2016, 06:40 PM »
This is my favorite thread on this board!

Offline Kev

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2016, 11:30 PM »
It is finally here.

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@HAXIT

Happy days [smile]

Hopefully that'll be me soon ... just made an offer on a property (fingers and toes are crossed) with a newish 3 and a half bay workshop that I'd line and floor seal. Though I'm likely to be less detailed than you [embarassed]

Are you just filtering the air or are you going to A/C the space?

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2016, 08:34 AM »
It is finally here.

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@HAXIT

Happy days [smile]

Hopefully that'll be me soon ... just made an offer on a property (fingers and toes are crossed) with a newish 3 and a half bay workshop that I'd line and floor seal. Though I'm likely to be less detailed than you [embarassed]

Are you just filtering the air or are you going to A/C the space?
Thanks Kev, I wish the best of luck for you for the property. Without having the space we are almost paralyzed.
I will just filtering the air.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2016, 08:54 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2016, 09:15 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2016, 09:31 AM »
@HAXIT

Congratulations on the amazing workspace metamorphosis!  The results you have shown in such a short period of time is amazing.

I will offer one tiny piece of advice.  Once you start woodworking and there will be some sawdust on the floor, do not make sudden movements or turns.  The epoxy floors can get very slick with the sawdust acting as cornmeal on a pizza peel.  I learned the hard way - OUCH!

I can't wait to see more of your shop as it continues.

Peter
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 09:16 PM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
If this story is more then three years ago, then you are right it has been a huge improvements since then. Of course type of epoxy used has a big impact as well. One of the main reasons in these days is the easy care and long lasting that some people prefer  epoxy flooring. Only time will tell how good this floor would stay the way it is now.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2016, 09:18 PM »
@HAXIT

Congratulations on the amazing workspace metamorphosis!  The results you have shown in such a short period of time is amazing.

I will offer one tiny piece of advice.  Once you start woodworking and there will be some sawdust on the floor, do not make sudden movements or turns.  The epoxy floors can get very slick with the sawdust acting as cornmeal on a pizza peel.  I learned the hard way - OUCH!

I can't wait to see more of your shop as it continues.

Peter
Thanks Peter, I will remember your advice.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2016, 04:06 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
If this story is more then three years ago, then you are right it has been a huge improvements since then. Of course type of epoxy used has a big impact as well. One of the main reasons in these days is the easy care and long lasting that some people prefer  epoxy flooring. Only time will tell how good this floor would stay the way it is now.

The dairy closed in the early 1970's.
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2016, 01:08 PM »
Hi Folks
The room is done and getting ready to move in. [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
It is hard to believe it but no pain no gain seems like is true. Here is the last pics from the cured floor. It just got hard like rock and it is so shiny that you can count the florescent tubes on the floor. [scared]
I got my both hands up and must admit that I am not even close to a professional floor installer, I just learned my lesson from people's mistakes. I am not even a woodworker, I am a welder. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]





The past pics from the room, the walls (excluding the one that I made) were not painted yet. The whole shop is painted with ultra pure white eggshell enamel now.I bought two rechargeable 10 pound ABC fire extinguisher and installed them on the wall. One at the end of the shop and one near the door.I hope that I would never need to use them, but you got to have them.
Here is the last pic of the completed and finished empty room with door frame and fire extinguishers on the wall.

   

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2016, 01:12 PM »
Wow, that is an incredible transformation. 

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2016, 01:21 PM »
I forgot!
Tomorrow morning, the security company will be here to update my security system at house and give me the wireless remote and add the shop and the garage to the system as well. So the door will have security and Thursday morning the movers will be here to take the larger machines down and I will do the rest.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2016, 01:53 PM »
Well, the security is updated and I just had my first false alarm experience. [bite tongue]
After the security installer left the house, I armed the system then left the house to eat something. When I came back I did not want to go upstairs but I went to garage to move some tools down stairs and I completely forgot that garage door and the shop has security now since 2 hours ago. [sad]
I came down stairs and I left my phone in the car and security company is trying to contact me but they cannot reach me. First the siren went off and the noise traveled almost to end of my street. I already know what I did, now the police showed up at the front of my door and my home phone is ringing same time again the security company trying to reach me.
Conclusion:
The system works great. [big grin]
If it happen again,I might pay $500 fine. [scared]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2016, 08:08 AM »
Well, the security is updated and I just had my first false alarm experience. [bite tongue]
After the security installer left the house, I armed the system then left the house to eat something. When I came back I did not want to go upstairs but I went to garage to move some tools down stairs and I completely forgot that garage door and the shop has security now since 2 hours ago. [sad]
I came down stairs and I left my phone in the car and security company is trying to contact me but they cannot reach me. First the siren went off and the noise traveled almost to end of my street. I already know what I did, now the police showed up at the front of my door and my home phone is ringing same time again the security company trying to reach me.
Conclusion:
The system works great. [big grin]
If it happen again,I might pay $500 fine. [scared]

I'm glad somebody else has those problems  [unsure]
One time  we left our security system on while we took a trip to Germany.  We  came back to house and had forgotten how to disarm the system.  Ten minutes later the police AND fire department showed up.
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2016, 07:19 PM »
Ladies if any and gentlemen, welcome to my workshop. About 80% is done and the 20% is all about making some storage area and clamp rack and etc...
The Hammer A3 31 is right front the door and is set up to cut anything up to 10' or I can open the door and move the machine to right and go up to 18'. At the end you can see the cms-ge set next to the drill press. Again from wall to the cutting point is 7' and can be change quickly to 9' if I have to.



Drill press is my beloved Swedish made Solberga. No belt and no maintenance, it is a gear head drill press. The top mounted motor is dust and water proof. 2 horse power with 8 speed setting which is done with two handles at the left side. The choices are 130-260-420-535-840-1070-1745-3480.Both the drill head and the table arm are adjustable 360 degree around the column and can be raised and lowered.



Tormek  T8 water cooled sharpening system with the complete jigs and accessory,rotating base and ts 740 station.



No detail on this one but I love it and it won't stay at the corner always.



The whole wall is covered with festool accessories. The Kapex is in the perfect location, from the end of the wall under the stairs to kapex blade is 18' so for long lumber there is no problem here. Ignore the wires that hanging. It is for the project in the future.

 

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2016, 07:25 PM »
Oh for goodness sake would you just toss a couple handfuls of sawdust somewhere around there??? Looks like a darned operating room!

Seriously thought, incredible project in what must be record time. I'd still be moving the washing machines.

Enjoy the new shop.

RMW
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