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Offline HAXIT

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New workshop build
« on: November 27, 2016, 11:53 AM »
Hi Folks,
I bought my house about 12 years ago based on 30 years mortgage but I paid double any month I could and will close it less then 2 years from now. Since then, I have been working all over from kitchen to basement and doing the hardcore stuff in a garage.It has been for hobby but it seems like turning into the business now. Any new business involves risk but I must have a shop no mater what.
I have a two car garage which I could use for shop but I have no choice and I have to build the shop in the basement. I work with metal as well and I always add them to wood when I need to and I like to be independent. I have a full time job as a welder fabricator which I have been doing for 25 years and I could get the metal work done at work but do not want to do it so. I have to split the garage in half and I am planning to make the half for welding and lumber storage and make the other half as a spray shop.
I won,t use the whole basement for the shop so the space I have there would be 600 square feet only which is the same size as my garage and exact half the basement. I have been buying and looking into the shop plans and magazines but I do not like the Ideas!
I am doing this totally in the different way and because of being in the basement the maximum safety, noise and dust control is my priority and I do not care about the cost.
I will update the progress every weekend and most likely I will upload some pictures later to show you guys what kinds of nightmare  I have to deal with. I have to go now to find out why the snowblower does not want to work. [doh]
Please, feel free to comment or giving advise most likely any of you guys who has been working in the basement for the long time or share some pictures.
       
 

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 03:09 PM »
I have a basement shop and here are some of the basics for my shop.

What kind of access do you have to the basement?  I've got a French door walkout which enables me to get things into the shop that can fit through a 5'4"x6'8" (more or less) opening.  I also have easy pickup truck access to the back door.  Without that, I'm not sure how I would have gotten the bigger machines down there.

I ran a separate electrical panel for the shop.  That allows me to be flexible with outlets and lights as my needs change.  I also installed all outlets to outdoor code to keep as much dust as possible out of the outlets.

I ran good lighting to all parts of the shop, and made sure that there was direct light to where I needed it the most.  I used fluorescent fixtures, but if I were doing it today, I'd use the new generations of LED shop lights.

When placing outlets, I took bench locations into account, so that my benches have outlets slightly above bench level.  Unfortunately they poured the floor before I got around to putting conduit in the floor for outlets, but there's only one spot where I miss it.

For dust control I have the following:
*  Dust Collector, cyclone, 1300+CFM, HEPA cartridge filter, to the stationary machines that generate a lot of chips/dust.  I wish I could have isolated it from the rest of the shop, but it did not work out that way.
*  Two air cleaners, needed because of how my shop is laid out.  I have them set up so that I can use activated charcoal filters when finishing.  All of my finishing is rubbed, so I don't have to worry too much about explosive volatile hydrocarbons.
*  CT 36.  I switched from DeWalt sanders and a Fein vacuum to Festool sanders and vacuum, and it has made a significant difference in air quality in the shop when sanding.
*  About once a year when a wind comes up (and we get 50 MPH several times a year), I open the exterior doors and windows, start both air cleaners, grab my Milwaukee M18 blower, and blow out the shop.  Takes a half an hour or so, and some papers usually end up blowing around which is irritating.  The end result is that most of the stuff that cakes on over time gets cleaned out.

For noise, I have 32dB earmuffs, but at the same time I really try to pick the quietest tools possible.  I also put insulation for sound in the ceiling to keep the noise out of the main level as much as possible.
 
That's the part of shop setup that I think is independent of what kind of work you are doing.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 06:25 PM »
Thanks HarveyWildes,
My access would be from 8 steps stairs but I still can get a lot of stuff down there but not too big.
I am agree on LED lights but I did buy a lot of fluorescent fixtures long time ago and the lights which I am going to use but in the future I would change it to LED tubes. I am not sure but I think you can fit the LED tubes in the fluorescent fixtures if you bypass the starter and the ballast. I am going to find out about this tomorrow.   

Offline rvieceli

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2016, 07:25 PM »
@HAXIT there are couple of styles of led tubes. The ones that are direct wire where you bypass the ballast and the newer styles that can be a direct plug and play with electronic ballasts.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2016, 07:55 PM »
@HAXIT there are couple of styles of led tubes. The ones that are direct wire where you bypass the ballast and the newer styles that can be a direct plug and play with electronic ballasts.
Then my search is over. Thank you

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 05:14 AM »
OK, I have been trying to post some pictures but I end up with no luck.
I do not know what I am doing wrong but I think the problem could be the size.
Now I am going to post only one picture for test and I am attaching as inline full size.
Is this a good size or it is too large?


Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2016, 08:25 AM »
For my screen, the pic is fine.  I have a small basement shop. My biggest problem is probably dust control.  I have two CT's. My CT33 is at permanent home at end of my MFT/3 work bench.  I can move the hose to most of my other machines.  The ones that cannot be reached I have a CT22 that is easy to move around as needed.  For my planer, I have a Penn State vac with 4" hose to the planer.  That is the only machine needing the 4" hose.

I don't do very much metal work, altho in the past i have done some work with sheet metal.  Because my shop is so small and crowded, any time i do any metal work that sets sparks (My grinder)into the air, i take that out to my barn where i work on and store my outdoor landscaping equipment.  I don't want any sparks or flame in my wood shop.

Richard/RMW has done/doing a great and informative thread on his very tight woodworking shop. Look for something like 10 pounds in a 5 pound box.  I don't have that quite right, but you will get the idea if you do a search.  He has a lot of pics of some very great ideas.

Good luck
Tinker
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Offline GarryMartin

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2016, 08:40 AM »
Richard/RMW has done/doing a great and informative thread on his very tight woodworking shop. Look for something like 10 pounds in a 5 pound box.  I don't have that quite right, but you will get the idea if you do a search.  He has a lot of pics of some very great ideas.

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Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2016, 01:52 PM »
My shop is in the basement as well.  I have a couple fold able saw horses in the garage to break down the sheet goods before carrying into the basement.  Bill Mueller, utube poster, posted a video of a collapsible torsion box for this reason.

As for noise, I would also recommend
constructing a 2x4 wall along exterior walls and a small room for the dust collection and air compressor,
insulating the exterior walls,
hang either drywall or plywood (Plywood is great for holding up cabinets etc.)
box in the duct work and use either soundproof drywall or noise cancelling channels (not sure what the exact name is for the channel.  The duct work being made of metal creates a nice path for noise to travel upstairs.  More than likely, there isn't enough room between drywall and duct work for insulation to be effective, imo.
The entry door into the basement may need to be a insulated door if it enters into the house as well as a weather strip.  Weather strip is to keep dust from entering the house as well as noise.  there are probably better alternatives.
run 20 amp outlets and dont forget to add some outlets in the ceiling for air filter and possible tools, especially over the workbench.

FYI -  Jay Bates has a nice miter station that creates plenty of storage while providing wings for the miter.
  Also, he has a video of someone's garage setup which helps condense the work area by placing the workbench, planer, jigsaw, dust collection etc. in negative areas to maximize the space.  Cant seem to find the video.

Jeff

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Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2016, 06:32 AM »
Thanks for the ideas and suggestions guys very appreciated. I am working till late time so the week ends are the only time that I can be online. I will post the whole plan that I have in my head over the weekend. Here is more pictures from the current situation.






Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2016, 02:15 PM »
Finally Friday! I took off today and Monday to finish some stuff before weather gets very cold. If you look at these two pictures, here is where the shop will be and as you can see the house is double which means two hot water tank and two furnaces siting right there.
The hot water tanks are not too bad but the furnaces are junk but still work. Any way I don not want them in the middle of the shop so they will be replaced.





I always wanted to go with tankless water heater and this is the great time and I am doing it today. I just came up stairs for a cup of tea break and over the weekend I am changing the two furnaces as well. Both the tankless water heater and the furnace are 98% high efficient and have two pipes that goes outside the wall one for vent and another one for combustion intake. Now because chimney is not required, I am moving the system to the other side of the basement, completely outside the shop area which will be here in this picture.



In this case, not only I open a huge space, but I am sure that it is safer and they take the fresh air from outside for combustion not from basement.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2016, 01:11 AM »
The two hot water tanks are gone and replaced with two tankless ones.



And here the new glass block windows and clean up all the wires. All the wires in the basement are going in the conduit.







Offline Dubcraftee

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2016, 03:14 AM »
Keep going! it looks great so far. You've created so much more space. And the symmetry in the pictures really rustles my jimmies!

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2016, 04:41 PM »
I am already happy for what has been done here. The two monster furnaces are replaced with two 98% 2 stage and variable speed  ECM maintenance free blower. The furnace is sealed and was designed for residential and commercial. For me and where I live, I really do not need the AC but if I want to I can add it any time. The stand in the picture is not include the furnace itself. I made the stand from 1" square tube and paint it same color as furnace. I bought these two units about three months ago when they were agree to give me a best deal on two. When they arrived, I measured everything that I would need and made these stands. There is a paint store near where I work so I opened the door on the furnace and took it with me to show it to them. They scanned the color and mixed the pant for me.
It is working great right now. I just have to finish the drain pipe.


Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2016, 04:49 PM »
I have been down there in the basement since 6am in the morning and it is about 4pm now. I just did some painting and closed the opening on the duct where the old furnaces were located but mostly I was working on electric and running conduit. And here is the shop area which is 23' x 26' just about 600SF but I will have storage area under the stairs as well.



About the power:
The shop will have 5 120v 20amp and 3 220v 20amp separate breakers and all the wires will be in the conduit dropped dawn from ceiling excluding one wall as you can see it in the picture. I will talk about this more later.
The walls.
What you see in the picture below, is not paint or drylock. It is a material that called Surface Bonding Cement (SBC) which is alkali resistant,fiberglass reinforced and cement mixed based material. It is much better then drylock. It takes 30 days to cure completely and during this time you have to spray it with water and it will get harder and harder. It is not as easy as you see in the videos on line to apply this product on the wall. I did this a month ago so it is cured now but it took me a long time to do it. I had to do this first before hanging the tankless water heaters and screw the electric boxes and conduits to the wall. Only the shop area will be paint over it but the other half will stay as is.


Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2016, 01:06 AM »
All the wiring and lights are done. Hopefully I will build the wall and put the door up over the weekend.
The shop will have 12 fluorescent fixtures. Each one will hold 4 4' T8 tubes.








Offline Kev

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2016, 03:00 AM »
Am I alone in thinking this could be more shrine than workshop??  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2016, 01:41 AM »
 Today,the old stairs which was good for nothing came out and replaced with the new one which is more stable as well. Finished the wall and the door. As you can see in the picture, there will be some storage area under the stairs which is great. I have to cut that post and move it to the right for about 10" to open up my way.










Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2016, 02:26 PM »
@HAXIT have you checked the floor thickness at the location to whih you will move the post?  The appearance of the overall original construction looks like there is no problem.  However, whenever a row of posts  ar installed, there should be either a continuos footing or a footing under eack post.  I don't know how much weight is involved or even the thickness of the floor.  If i were doing the job, i would very definitely check before moving the post.  In previous pics, it appeas the beam is steel, but I am not certain. Checking is just an old habit.  A few years ago, i looked at a job that was going to support five fireplaces and a couple of support beams at two floors.  The first thing I noticed was there was a side wall that had been constructed because the builder had made a 8 foot error in placement of the wall.  The concrete floor had already been poured.  I told the builder I would not do an estimate until i had proof the chimney footing was in the right place.  After considerable argument, I walked away.  Ten years later the main part of the house was torn down. I never checked on why.  It was not in my town.  I just thought that maybe that chimney could  be the culprit and just maby it was creating a major problem starting at cellar floor level. >>> or below.
Tinker
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Offline Ironmantrev

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2016, 03:29 PM »
Project is looking great. Everything is nice and clean and organized looking. I suspect you may have OCD as I do😀

Thought about what you are going to do with the floors? Polished and then possibly stained would look great and would be easy for cleanup. I'm thinking of doing this with my garage workshop (once I finally get it cleaned and organized). If you put in a big Festool logo maybe they will sponsor some of your renovation??? Yeah I know, probably wishful thinking, haha.

Following your progress.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2016, 07:34 PM »
@HAXIT have you checked the floor thickness at the location to whih you will move the post?  The appearance of the overall original construction looks like there is no problem.  However, whenever a row of posts  ar installed, there should be either a continuos footing or a footing under eack post.  I don't know how much weight is involved or even the thickness of the floor.  If i were doing the job, i would very definitely check before moving the post.  In previous pics, it appeas the beam is steel, but I am not certain. Checking is just an old habit.  A few years ago, i looked at a job that was going to support five fireplaces and a couple of support beams at two floors.  The first thing I noticed was there was a side wall that had been constructed because the builder had made a 8 foot error in placement of the wall.  The concrete floor had already been poured.  I told the builder I would not do an estimate until i had proof the chimney footing was in the right place.  After considerable argument, I walked away.  Ten years later the main part of the house was torn down. I never checked on why.  It was not in my town.  I just thought that maybe that chimney could  be the culprit and just maby it was creating a major problem starting at cellar floor level. >>> or below.
Tinker
Yes, I would never dare to do it before checking it with people that I can trust. I did this few years ago and even brought some of them here and showed them that what is going on but I never got the time to do it, now I have no choice and it has to be done. The beam is steel and thank for your concern.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2016, 07:54 PM »
Project is looking great. Everything is nice and clean and organized looking. I suspect you may have OCD as I do😀

Thought about what you are going to do with the floors? Polished and then possibly stained would look great and would be easy for cleanup. I'm thinking of doing this with my garage workshop (once I finally get it cleaned and organized). If you put in a big Festool logo maybe they will sponsor some of your renovation??? Yeah I know, probably wishful thinking, haha.

Following your progress.
Thanks, the floor is going to be 100% solids epoxy and I will explain everything I do. This is not what people think or buy about epoxy flooring.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2016, 10:56 PM »
Well, today I finished filling inside the wall and between the joists with Roxul safe n sound and boxed all the duct work.










Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2016, 12:36 PM »
It Looks like every time I try to post 6 pictures same time I go over the limit and it does not work, so I stay on 5 in several posts.
Here is the last pic from yesterday work.



I tried everything they claimed about this Roxul safe n sound and it does it well. I filled in every openings including under the stairs. It comes in 3" thickness only but I double it up where ever it needed to cover everything up.
I am not a huge fun of what manufactures said about their product unless I try it myself and not effected by reading the reviews.
The result is already very impressive without having any type of drywall here! Yesterday, when I was almost finished but not completed, I opened the door to go upstairs for the short break and a cop of tea and I saw three people were standing behind the door and talking, I asked them when did they come down stairs and respond was 5 minutes ago. Not only I did not hear the footsteps but I could not hear the conversation too. Now they told me that they were thinking I was in the garage because it was quite up stairs.[eek]
I was listening to Iron Maiden all day, I think this Roxul already passed the test for me.[big grin] [thumbs up]
« Last Edit: December 11, 2016, 12:39 PM by HAXIT »

Offline RobBob

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2016, 12:37 PM »
How did you attach the wood to the metal ductwork?

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2016, 12:45 PM »
How did you attach the wood to the metal ductwork?
I did not. They are only screwed to the joists and each other.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2016, 01:22 PM »
The next step is to hang the soundproofing drywall and painting. I have no past experience about the soundproofing drywall and after a long time research I was going to order the quiet rock 530. At the last minute I met a contractor that had a lot of experience on this and he told me I better be buying soundbreak xp instead of quiet rock. And he mentioned that it is very important to leave a 1/4 inch gap between the wall and the floor where the drywall is about to be attached and fill the gap with OSI SC175 draft and acoustical sound sealant. OK, now I started to asking people I know again for this two products and nobody gave me a single negative answer and they encouraged me to go for it. What they did not tell me was none of them are easy to work with and most of the time they do not want to sell it to you if you do not have account with them or not willing to buy a whole skid. But I was able to get what I need by help and yes it is bloody expensive and not easy to use.



     

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2016, 05:19 PM »
Habit,  have you slept any since the project started?  It seems like yesterday you got started.  Great work!

Hope you placed some plastic or something under the bottom plate of wall.
Jeff
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2016, 05:26 PM »
I am using the 5/8" XP for the next layer of my entire shop, ceiling too and its fire rated Type X. I dont think the 1/2" XP is.  I think thats your basement, I might consider using the 5/8", at least on the ceiling.

My brother is telling me the Georgia Pacific is better and this Purple XP stuff is prone to very easy edge breakage.

This product cost a heck of a lot more money than regular drywall, I am hoping it works out for me.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2016, 05:33 PM by Dovetail65 »
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2016, 06:02 PM »
Habit,  have you slept any since the project started?  It seems like yesterday you got started.  Great work!

Hope you placed some plastic or something under the bottom plate of wall.
Forget about the sleep and help the hunger! It is unbelievable how fast the time goes by down there. Since I started, I have been on two meal a day keep forgetting the lunch.
The bottom plate and the three stringers for new stairs are pressure treated.   

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2016, 06:17 PM »
I am using the 5/8" XP for the next layer of my entire shop, ceiling too and its fire rated Type X. I dont think the 1/2" XP is.  I think thats your basement, I might consider using the 5/8", at least on the ceiling.

My brother is telling me the Georgia Pacific is better and this Purple XP stuff is prone to very easy edge breakage.

This product cost a heck of a lot more money than regular drywall, I am hoping it works out for me.
Yes,it is the fire rated 5/8" xp that I am using. The few places that I called, they said they do not sell the 1/2" due to lack of customers. If this won't work, then I wasted a big money.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2016, 01:18 AM »
Hi Folks,
The wall and ceiling is done. I have been working on this since Sunday. This is just primer and one coat of paint but I will put another coat all over the shop after grinding the floor is done.





Floor is next, Tomorrow, I am leaving at lunch time and I called the local hardware store to deliver the concrete grinder at 1pm for me. If nothing goes wrong, I think I will finish it about 5 hours. The floor is going to be 100% solid industrial epoxy and will be done in 4 steps. Another good news that I had today was, my two machines are finally here and will be deliver to me on Friday morning.
 

Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2016, 03:50 AM »
@HAXIT Don't forget to seal all duct openings and doorways.  The dust from grinding of concrete can permeaeevery room in the house.  Don't ask how I know. 

Oh, what the heck, I can't resist.  I once ran into a delivery problem with a floor pour in cold weather. First load came right on time. first  delivery in morning from supplier.  second was supposed to arrive at 8:30 or 9 o'clock.  It finally arrived, after burning phone lines, at around 4pm and getting dark with temp plummeting into the twenties.  Needless to say, some serious repairs were required later on. I rented a grinder for a day during Christmas/New Year week while owner would be away on Ski trip.  I sealed all doorways into the main house and proceded to grind away. A dayor so after New Years Day, I got a call from the builder on the job to call the owners.

The owners happened to be a pair of Cranky Yankees from the  hills of Vermont.  I had really hit it off with them as they were he sort of people and humor that I had grown up with in he Berkshire hills of Massachusetts.  I liked them and he felig was reciprocal. I called as directed.  Isthmus they had jut gotten home about two hours earlier and from the ton of he man's voice and the ringing in my ears, I could sense a little, this is a story about a Cranky Yankee, remember!. That phone was exploding in my ear.

It seems they were greeted with a hin film of white dust over everything in the house. The dut had permeated to even between bed sheets and all closeted clothing. I offered to come over to help with the cleaning.

"Tinker!!!  If you show your face in this house, I'll kill you!!!!!"

We did end up as friends once again, but it was my good forune they were the sort of family who did not carry a grudge.  I did many more jobs for them.  when i retired from mason biz, i even took care of their yard for a few years until they moved away.

What had caused the dust problem? Even though i sealed all doorways, i had forgoten about closing off heating return duct covers.

I can immagine that with your attention to detail, you would not make a mitook like that, but just thought i'd remind you. ::)
Tinker
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Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2016, 12:59 AM »
Tinker,
Your reminding is much appreciated.

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2016, 01:28 AM »
Even though, I was sure that my concrete floor had no moisture but again I did the test before order anything just to make sure.
I taped dawn a 2' x 3' plastic on the floor and opened it up after 24 hours. If you can see any concrete discoloration, moister or water dripping from the plastic, then epoxy flooring would not be a good idea but the test result was very promising.





Here is how the floor is looks like before.



 

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2016, 02:04 AM »
Step 1: Concrete prep
I know that the most popular and cheapest way is acid wash but I do not like the method. The concrete prep is the heart of this process and should not be undertaken if good flooring result is desired.
This is how I set it up to minimize the dust. I changed the regular filter in the shop vac and replace it with the universal concrete dust filter and put two fans in the front of the windows. I took this picture before covering the duct opening and electric panel but they will be closed. The duct opening will stay closed all the time till end of the project because I want to maintain the even temperature and humidity.



I finished grinding in 4 hours and vacuumed three times to make sure there is no dust left on the floor. Here how it is looks like now.



     

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2016, 02:17 AM »
Step 2: The floor is covered with epoxy primer and checking for desired  humidity and temperature.



   

Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2016, 12:00 PM »
It is finally here.


Offline Tinker

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2016, 12:14 PM »
I'm assuming that is a garage, and not that you tore everything apart.  [scared]

BTW Your floor, as everything else you have done, looks great. As long as the floor is not wet underneath the concrete, you should have no problem except possibly from condensation. If the subfloor is wet (it appears not to be) you can xpect condensation problems.
Tinker
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Offline RENO

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2016, 04:55 PM »
Your workshop is gonna look great Haxit  !!
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Offline HAXIT

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2016, 05:52 AM »
I'm assuming that is a garage, and not that you tore everything apart.  [scared]

BTW Your floor, as everything else you have done, looks great. As long as the floor is not wet underneath the concrete, you should have no problem except possibly from condensation. If the subfloor is wet (it appears not to be) you can xpect condensation problems.
Tinker
Yes, it is the garage or more correctly the old shop in the past, transit for new tools at the time and welding shop in the future.
Isn't garage was made to park the car? Not when I own it. [big grin]

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2016, 05:54 AM »
Your workshop is gonna look great Haxit  !!
Thanks and let's hope so. [wink]

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2016, 06:26 AM »
Step 3&4 and the result.
After primer the base coat went on the top then I had to broadcast the color chips and after 12 hours put the top coat on.
So, the floor is three layer and the color that I chose was mid gray with three colors white,black and neon green chips.
Here is the close up pic.



And the result.





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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2016, 06:55 AM »
@HAXIT My first thought was "Ah ha, He wants to hide the dust"  And then i realized who was doing the job and for whom. After looking/reviewing all of your progress, I can't imagine any spec of dust hanging around for any measurable time on that floor. [blink]
All kidding aside, I really like that idea for your floor. It looks great. Can't wait to see all of your toys in there.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2016, 06:40 PM »
This is my favorite thread on this board!

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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2016, 11:30 PM »
It is finally here.

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@HAXIT

Happy days [smile]

Hopefully that'll be me soon ... just made an offer on a property (fingers and toes are crossed) with a newish 3 and a half bay workshop that I'd line and floor seal. Though I'm likely to be less detailed than you [embarassed]

Are you just filtering the air or are you going to A/C the space?

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« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2016, 08:34 AM »
It is finally here.

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@HAXIT

Happy days [smile]

Hopefully that'll be me soon ... just made an offer on a property (fingers and toes are crossed) with a newish 3 and a half bay workshop that I'd line and floor seal. Though I'm likely to be less detailed than you [embarassed]

Are you just filtering the air or are you going to A/C the space?
Thanks Kev, I wish the best of luck for you for the property. Without having the space we are almost paralyzed.
I will just filtering the air.

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« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2016, 08:54 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2016, 09:15 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2016, 09:31 AM »
@HAXIT

Congratulations on the amazing workspace metamorphosis!  The results you have shown in such a short period of time is amazing.

I will offer one tiny piece of advice.  Once you start woodworking and there will be some sawdust on the floor, do not make sudden movements or turns.  The epoxy floors can get very slick with the sawdust acting as cornmeal on a pizza peel.  I learned the hard way - OUCH!

I can't wait to see more of your shop as it continues.

Peter
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« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 09:16 PM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
If this story is more then three years ago, then you are right it has been a huge improvements since then. Of course type of epoxy used has a big impact as well. One of the main reasons in these days is the easy care and long lasting that some people prefer  epoxy flooring. Only time will tell how good this floor would stay the way it is now.

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« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2016, 09:18 PM »
@HAXIT

Congratulations on the amazing workspace metamorphosis!  The results you have shown in such a short period of time is amazing.

I will offer one tiny piece of advice.  Once you start woodworking and there will be some sawdust on the floor, do not make sudden movements or turns.  The epoxy floors can get very slick with the sawdust acting as cornmeal on a pizza peel.  I learned the hard way - OUCH!

I can't wait to see more of your shop as it continues.

Peter
Thanks Peter, I will remember your advice.

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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2016, 04:06 AM »
The room is almost done and the floor needs to be cure from 10 to 14 days before any heavy machines move in but light foot traffic is ok. Next week is Christmas and new year which both arrive on weekends and after that I will move in and do the shop tour. I would say in 3 weeks I will be up and running the shop. Thanks everyone for comments and following this post.

The only experience I ever had with Epoxy on a concrete floor I had to allow  NO TIME for curing.  The floor was full of cracks, holes and spalts from being  used as a dairy.  The floor  had to be steam cleaned every day.  The dairy was bringing in milk from local farmers before  8 am every day, processed, bottled and shipped out befor  noon every day. We had to wait until the steam cleaning was completed by around 4pm before we could start doing anything.  We were using a type of epoxy that we mixed with sand base and would  be cured within an hour or so.  i had three helpers who did the mixing and feeding the lone mechanic (me) who was working on hands and knees all night.  Someimes i was lying on my belly and stretching out under tanks and machinery.  By the time we finished, i was like half drunk.  The floor was no longer full of holes and spalting, but there were  a ton of tooling ridges.  the owner was happy even tho i was not.  I don't know why he had us do the floor, as he closed the business within a very few months.  I think the job was a necessity to satisfy milk inspectors so he could finish his obligations until the property could be sold.  I vowed to never do another epoxy floor again.  From what i am seeing of your floor, and from others, there have been big improvements in the overall process. 

Tinker
If this story is more then three years ago, then you are right it has been a huge improvements since then. Of course type of epoxy used has a big impact as well. One of the main reasons in these days is the easy care and long lasting that some people prefer  epoxy flooring. Only time will tell how good this floor would stay the way it is now.

The dairy closed in the early 1970's.
Tinker
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2016, 01:08 PM »
Hi Folks
The room is done and getting ready to move in. [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
It is hard to believe it but no pain no gain seems like is true. Here is the last pics from the cured floor. It just got hard like rock and it is so shiny that you can count the florescent tubes on the floor. [scared]
I got my both hands up and must admit that I am not even close to a professional floor installer, I just learned my lesson from people's mistakes. I am not even a woodworker, I am a welder. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]





The past pics from the room, the walls (excluding the one that I made) were not painted yet. The whole shop is painted with ultra pure white eggshell enamel now.I bought two rechargeable 10 pound ABC fire extinguisher and installed them on the wall. One at the end of the shop and one near the door.I hope that I would never need to use them, but you got to have them.
Here is the last pic of the completed and finished empty room with door frame and fire extinguishers on the wall.

   

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« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2016, 01:12 PM »
Wow, that is an incredible transformation. 

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« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2016, 01:21 PM »
I forgot!
Tomorrow morning, the security company will be here to update my security system at house and give me the wireless remote and add the shop and the garage to the system as well. So the door will have security and Thursday morning the movers will be here to take the larger machines down and I will do the rest.

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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2016, 01:53 PM »
Well, the security is updated and I just had my first false alarm experience. [bite tongue]
After the security installer left the house, I armed the system then left the house to eat something. When I came back I did not want to go upstairs but I went to garage to move some tools down stairs and I completely forgot that garage door and the shop has security now since 2 hours ago. [sad]
I came down stairs and I left my phone in the car and security company is trying to contact me but they cannot reach me. First the siren went off and the noise traveled almost to end of my street. I already know what I did, now the police showed up at the front of my door and my home phone is ringing same time again the security company trying to reach me.
Conclusion:
The system works great. [big grin]
If it happen again,I might pay $500 fine. [scared]

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« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2016, 08:08 AM »
Well, the security is updated and I just had my first false alarm experience. [bite tongue]
After the security installer left the house, I armed the system then left the house to eat something. When I came back I did not want to go upstairs but I went to garage to move some tools down stairs and I completely forgot that garage door and the shop has security now since 2 hours ago. [sad]
I came down stairs and I left my phone in the car and security company is trying to contact me but they cannot reach me. First the siren went off and the noise traveled almost to end of my street. I already know what I did, now the police showed up at the front of my door and my home phone is ringing same time again the security company trying to reach me.
Conclusion:
The system works great. [big grin]
If it happen again,I might pay $500 fine. [scared]

I'm glad somebody else has those problems  [unsure]
One time  we left our security system on while we took a trip to Germany.  We  came back to house and had forgotten how to disarm the system.  Ten minutes later the police AND fire department showed up.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2016, 07:19 PM »
Ladies if any and gentlemen, welcome to my workshop. About 80% is done and the 20% is all about making some storage area and clamp rack and etc...
The Hammer A3 31 is right front the door and is set up to cut anything up to 10' or I can open the door and move the machine to right and go up to 18'. At the end you can see the cms-ge set next to the drill press. Again from wall to the cutting point is 7' and can be change quickly to 9' if I have to.



Drill press is my beloved Swedish made Solberga. No belt and no maintenance, it is a gear head drill press. The top mounted motor is dust and water proof. 2 horse power with 8 speed setting which is done with two handles at the left side. The choices are 130-260-420-535-840-1070-1745-3480.Both the drill head and the table arm are adjustable 360 degree around the column and can be raised and lowered.



Tormek  T8 water cooled sharpening system with the complete jigs and accessory,rotating base and ts 740 station.



No detail on this one but I love it and it won't stay at the corner always.



The whole wall is covered with festool accessories. The Kapex is in the perfect location, from the end of the wall under the stairs to kapex blade is 18' so for long lumber there is no problem here. Ignore the wires that hanging. It is for the project in the future.

 

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« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2016, 07:25 PM »
Oh for goodness sake would you just toss a couple handfuls of sawdust somewhere around there??? Looks like a darned operating room!

Seriously thought, incredible project in what must be record time. I'd still be moving the washing machines.

Enjoy the new shop.

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« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2016, 07:36 PM »
Fantastic!  Great space with wonderful lighting and layout.  I'm sure you will love doing work there and no doubt, your work will be raised due to the inspiration of the space.

Thanks for sharing!


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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2016, 07:46 PM »
@HAXIT   Where did you get the slat wall for hanging the Festool accessories?

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2016, 08:14 PM »
Here is a close up pic from that slatwall. You can not see it from faraway, it is not plastic or MDF. It is interlocking aluminum with green pvc strips inserted to cover the screws.





Here is the Hammer n4400 band saw wich is connected to Laguna dust collector and when I need it, I just roll it for A3 31. This dust collecter is just for this two machines. At the center I have my TS 75 and the ct sys on sys-roll so I can quickly grab it and go to garage just to cut the sheet good to bring them down here.



It was a large open area in the first picture and I moved what was there just to show how much space I can have if I want to but I have two Felder FAT 300 lifting tables that goes there.



The next picture shows one at lowest 400mm and one at highest 1030mm and can be set at any point between by using the hydraulic lift. The tabe top is glue, solvent and scratch resistant and is almost same size as MFT3 just 20mm wider and 100mm longer.

       

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2016, 08:47 PM »
Here is some usage of the lifting tables. I put one at each end of MFT3 which helps to support a very long lumber and for some projects the vac sys is a bit high for me, so I just remove it from plate and drop them on lifting table. Oh life gets much easier.
Here is the example.



Setup for joining.



setup for thickness.



And finally just two pics from corners for whole shop.





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« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2016, 09:12 PM »
That is a beautiful shop! Awesome setup!

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« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2016, 09:29 PM »
Finally something about lights and use it in the efficient way.
When I started this project, I know the layout in my head and wired the lights half and half. If you take a marker and put a line in the middle of the chimney to the front and the end wall, you would split the shop in half. There are 12 florescent fixtures in the shop and each one holds 4 T8 4' tube. So each side of the shop has 6 fixtures which has separate breaker and switch.I can turn the half shop off to be more efficient and still get great lighting with no shadows.
For example, If I work on the festool side, I can turn the lights off on the other half or opposite. I just took two pictures by standing at the end of chimney.
Work on the festool side.



work on the Hammer side.



Thanks everyone for following this thread and I hope I could be useful for others and feel free to leave you comments or questions.

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« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2016, 09:36 PM »
@HAXIT   Where did you get the slat wall for hanging the Festool accessories?
Let me find the receipt, I will post it soon I do not remember the web site but I have it.

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« Reply #67 on: December 29, 2016, 09:42 PM »
Thanks folks for the good words and comments.

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« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2016, 10:13 PM »
@HAXIT   Where did you get the slat wall for hanging the Festool accessories?
http://www.megawall.com/

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« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2016, 10:33 PM »
Awesome shop you have.  That is definitely a dream shop..
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2016, 10:37 PM »
WOW!!


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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2016, 12:37 AM »
Amazing workspace....thanks for the share!  I would love to hear more on the Felder tables - I have seen them and they look very versatile. Not cheap, but useful nonetheless. I have thought about buying one for exactly the same purpose.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2016, 01:25 AM »
Great job!  Thanks for sharing.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2016, 01:38 AM »
like hotel than a workshop  [thumbs up]
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« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2016, 01:51 AM »
Amazing workspace....thanks for the share!  I would love to hear more on the Felder tables - I have seen them and they look very versatile. Not cheap, but useful nonetheless. I have thought about buying one for exactly the same purpose.
Thanks, I did not buy both of them at the same time. I bought the first one 9 months ago and when it arrived it was build much better then what I was thinking. It is 250 bound and holds up to 600 pound and all 4 rollers get locks. I was moving it under the MFT3 and every cut I was making I could put it on the top and keep the MFT3 ready for another cut. I started moving much faster and easier I ended up to buy another one 3 months ago and I am glad I did. Unless you pick it up,this is heavy and comes on skid so it is not a ups or fedex item and shipping cost approximately $250 depends on where you live.Let me know if you need any more info.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2016, 01:56 AM »
One more time if I missed anyone, thank you very much for the words and comments. [smile]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2016, 02:11 AM »
Well done. Shop looks great. Enjoy it now after all your hard work.

Which megawall profile did you use?
Did megawall provide the green screw cover or was that your custom touch?
Will any standard slat wall hooks, etc work, or do you need special ones?

I've been leaning towards some type of metal peg board vs slatwall, but this looks great and will be much better than any plastic/mdf variant I've only seen up,until now. This is a great find.

Thanks for sharing the project from beginning to end with all the little details. Now go break in all that new equipment.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2016, 02:34 AM »
@HAXIT

This is an amazing workshop. I have been following this avidly. My favourite thread in a long time
Those photos would have been at least 18 months apart if it was me

You must have another area for all your crap

You have inspired me. I'm going to try and get my workshop floor painted in the next couple of days

And again amazing

Mick

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« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2016, 04:32 AM »
This has been an amazing  project in just the time it took.  There is just one thing you have not shown. Your scrub area for when you are about to perform surgery. 

I love the clock.  Do you pour water on those tiny tools to make them useful and then shink them when finished?

All kidding aside, your planning and vision have been great. You have a terrific work space.
Tinker




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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2016, 07:17 AM »
Wow wow wow!  So many things I'm drooling over.  But I'm imagining the handiness of those Felder tables to be almost invaluable.

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« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2016, 07:23 AM »
Well done. Shop looks great. Enjoy it now after all your hard work.

Which megawall profile did you use?
Did megawall provide the green screw cover or was that your custom touch?
Will any standard slat wall hooks, etc work, or do you need special ones?

I've been leaning towards some type of metal peg board vs slatwall, but this looks great and will be much better than any plastic/mdf variant I've only seen up,until now. This is a great find.

Thanks for sharing the project from beginning to end with all the little details. Now go break in all that new equipment.
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.The megawall profile that I used called 1 3/8" flat back A138-1s-96.
They only sell the tracks, for green screw cover and hooks look here.
https://www.storesupply.com/vinyl-slatwall-insert-green-45239.aspx
The standard hooks work on this one which I mixed match to get what I needed but I am not sure if they would work with other tracks that they have.

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« Reply #81 on: December 30, 2016, 07:29 AM »
@HAXIT

This is an amazing workshop. I have been following this avidly. My favourite thread in a long time
Those photos would have been at least 18 months apart if it was me

You must have another area for all your crap

You have inspired me. I'm going to try and get my workshop floor painted in the next couple of days

And again amazing

Mick
Thanks and good luck with floor. [smile]

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« Reply #82 on: December 30, 2016, 07:34 AM »
Wow wow wow!  So many things I'm drooling over.  But I'm imagining the handiness of those Felder tables to be almost invaluable.
Thanks, I always work alone and these two tables act like an employee.

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« Reply #83 on: December 30, 2016, 07:46 AM »
This has been an amazing  project in just the time it took.  There is just one thing you have not shown. Your scrub area for when you are about to perform surgery. 

I love the clock.  Do you pour water on those tiny tools to make them useful and then shink them when finished?

All kidding aside, your planning and vision have been great. You have a terrific work space.
Tinker
Thanks Tinker and much appreciated. The clock was my idea, I designed and there is a website that they made it for me. It is made out of 1/4" acrylic.

 

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« Reply #84 on: December 30, 2016, 08:22 AM »
Nice laboratory haxit. Looks great

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« Reply #85 on: December 30, 2016, 09:45 AM »
This is quite possibly the nicest shop transformation I have ever seen, never mind the fact you did it in just over a month. I'm also going through the process of building a shop in my basement, so I can appreciate the sheer amount of time you've invested thinking this through and getting it done. I have a feeling there are tons of little details you agonized over, but will never be noticed by the casual observer since they seem obvious now. Laying out each machine to have proper in/out feed areas, especially around all of the obstructions is a brain twister in itself.

Kudos to a job well done. You have truly inspired me and likely many others on this forum.

Mind if I ask where you are located?

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #86 on: December 30, 2016, 10:26 AM »
Your build is inspirational...both in looks and speed of execution. All of your equipment choices (A3-31, N4400, CMS...) have been on my wish list for a while. Seeing them all together in one space increases the want.

Well done! [cool]

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« Reply #87 on: December 30, 2016, 11:54 AM »
That is a piece of art.  Thank you so much for sharing.  Bill

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« Reply #88 on: December 30, 2016, 12:25 PM »
@HAXIT

This is one of the threads that I know I will refer back to from time to time for all the great ideas you've presented. 

Your build is truly amazing and it's astonishing how quickly you completed it!  I only wish I could have half your energy. LOL

One question - What's the main ceiling height?  It looks low and I wondered how that affected some of your decisions.

Thanks, Mike A.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #89 on: December 30, 2016, 02:27 PM »
Wow. This is one of my favorite posts, very excited for you Haxit.

I had a few questions about your epoxy floor. I have just re-did my garage/shop and want to do an epoxy floor in 2017 so I was hoping you could provide some insight with a couple of things:

- Looks like you did the grinding and finish yourself. Can you provide some feedback on the difficulty/skill set needed to achieve that finish? I've redone hardwood floors but never concrete.....I am thinking "it's my garage/shop, so why not give it a shot".
- What brand of epoxy did you use?

Thanks in advance and congrats on a beautiful work space. Can't wait to see future project posts.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2016, 05:59 PM »
@HAXIT

This is one of the threads that I know I will refer back to from time to time for all the great ideas you've presented. 

Your build is truly amazing and it's astonishing how quickly you completed it!  I only wish I could have half your energy. LOL

One question - What's the main ceiling height?  It looks low and I wondered how that affected some of your decisions.

Thanks, Mike A.
Thank you very much for great comments and yes the ceiling height is not the best here but not too bad compare to the some very low ones. The open areas now after hanging the drywall is few inches under 8' and other areas where there is duct work is  10" shorter but it did not effect any of my decisions. The worst would be the band saw but it fits nice without any problem.   

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« Reply #91 on: December 30, 2016, 06:01 PM »
This is quite possibly the nicest shop transformation I have ever seen, never mind the fact you did it in just over a month. I'm also going through the process of building a shop in my basement, so I can appreciate the sheer amount of time you've invested thinking this through and getting it done. I have a feeling there are tons of little details you agonized over, but will never be noticed by the casual observer since they seem obvious now. Laying out each machine to have proper in/out feed areas, especially around all of the obstructions is a brain twister in itself.

Kudos to a job well done. You have truly inspired me and likely many others on this forum.

Mind if I ask where you are located?
Thanks for the comments and I will send you a PM. [smile]

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« Reply #92 on: December 30, 2016, 06:21 PM »
Wow. This is one of my favorite posts, very excited for you Haxit.

I had a few questions about your epoxy floor. I have just re-did my garage/shop and want to do an epoxy floor in 2017 so I was hoping you could provide some insight with a couple of things:

- Looks like you did the grinding and finish yourself. Can you provide some feedback on the difficulty/skill set needed to achieve that finish? I've redone hardwood floors but never concrete.....I am thinking "it's my garage/shop, so why not give it a shot".
- What brand of epoxy did you use?

Thanks in advance and congrats on a beautiful work space. Can't wait to see future project posts.
Thanks and yes I did the whole floor myself and it has nothing to do with hardwood flooring. Some processes are rather critical then difficult.You can buy everything you need to finish the job here.
 http://www.originalcolorchips.com/
I have no problem to share and help anytime you ready to start. Go to this web site and read some of the processes and watch the clips as well and see if you are comfortable to do it yourself. This is where I really wish that I could get some help because having a very short pot life make it much harder to work alone.

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« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2016, 06:30 PM »
Very nice transformation!  I love those tables, very handy and versatile.  Question, how did the movers get the planer down there?  Any issues with the table alignment after they finished?  How did you find movers that would handle small machinery in residential settings?  I've got a saw and J/P sitting in my garage.  When the warm weather returns I need to rebuild the basement stairs, then I need to find someone to get them downstairs.  And of course this entire thread had polluted my brain with more ideas that hurt the wallet and timeline. 

Great job, enjoy the new shop!
-Raj

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« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2016, 06:37 PM »
Once again,thank you very much everyone for comments and feedback.
I kind of getting embarrass if I really deserve all these great comments from you guys. [embarassed]

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« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2016, 06:55 PM »
Very nice transformation!  I love those tables, very handy and versatile.  Question, how did the movers get the planer down there?  Any issues with the table alignment after they finished?  How did you find movers that would handle small machinery in residential settings?  I've got a saw and J/P sitting in my garage.  When the warm weather returns I need to rebuild the basement stairs, then I need to find someone to get them downstairs.  And of course this entire thread had polluted my brain with more ideas that hurt the wallet and timeline. 

Great job, enjoy the new shop!
Thanks and I am glad to see that my ideas can be used by others in the future. [smile]
No issues with table alignment at all. They were 4 people with small industrial moving experience. I called many places for this but I was keep getting  answers like no we do not do it or they did not bother to call back till I found these guys. They had some kinds of moving cart that I have never seen before. They came in went in the garage and just look for few min and chat then all three machines were down in the basement less then half hour safely. I was very happy about this and tip them for lunch.

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« Reply #96 on: December 30, 2016, 08:30 PM »
These low budget shops are so boring...
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2016, 05:35 AM »
@HAXIT
That work with the floor is amazing, so I'm not surprised a great sequel. Great look. Congratulation for workshop and wish the happy new year for you.



I have several boxes Festool, one MTF, four guide rails and big taste to play. )))

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« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2016, 10:31 AM »
@HAXIT
That work with the floor is amazing, so I'm not surprised a great sequel. Great look. Congratulation for workshop and wish the happy new year for you.
Thank you very much and you are a fantastic maker as well. Happy new year and wishing the best for you my friend.

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« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2016, 10:53 AM »
One of the best organized shops that I've seen.

Where's the dust?  I think if you told us that the shop was self-cleaning, we would probably believe you!

Seriously, if I did a shop that looked like that, I'd think twice before I started my first project because it would never look that pristine again.  I hope that you enjoy making dust there for many years to come (and of course, capturing as much of it as possible with your dust collection system before it hits the floor).

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« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2016, 11:01 AM »
Ok @HAXIT,
where you located? I'd like to bring some sawdust for goodluck.

You like those FAT tables? Best purchase I made. I got rid of
my MFT/3. No more lifting & setting up that beast. You have
the room for it though.

The Festool wall is beginning to look like a store setup.

Great inspiration and it looks incredible for the amount
work put into it.

So when will the Kappa 550 be coming in?

Ok then, have a safe Happy New Years & prosper well
with the new shop!

Well Dogey

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #101 on: December 31, 2016, 12:21 PM »
Awesome! You've done a great job with the shop. Love following along!

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« Reply #102 on: December 31, 2016, 10:37 PM »
Thanks again folks and happy new year to all.

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« Reply #103 on: January 07, 2017, 06:40 PM »
Hi Folks,
It has been great since I got everything the way I wanted and I am spending more time here then upstairs.
If this is not the craziest, then one of the craziest projects on the planet that I just finished as a first project in the shop. The way I am and grown up, I must say that I hate waste even if I did not pay for and the question always is why if I could use it?
When my hammer machines arrived, they were packed great and I have a lot of scrap left that I did not want to throw away and I had the steps from the old stairs that was just screwed to 2x4 which came out easy without braking them. So I ended up to this project which is useful now because I have no table in the garage anyway.
This project is completed entirely from scraps left over and I just build it as I was thinking. Here we go:
The 50 years old stairs



The hammer shipping skid



And the result







So the table top is made out of the old stairs and finished with festool heavy duty oil and the table itself is the scrap skid. The stain on the table was the left over from a project that I had 3 years ago. The 120v 20amp outlet is the last one left from the shop wiring and the cover came from old bathroom, cable is left over from the spool I bought to wire the machines and the plug is from old tablesaw, wall mount towel dispenser came free with the big box shop towel that I ordered long time ago. The both sides of the table are slatwall to hang tools and was finished with festool heavy duty oil and everything is put together with domino.

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« Reply #104 on: January 07, 2017, 06:53 PM »
More pic from table.






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« Reply #105 on: January 08, 2017, 05:43 AM »
How long did it take for you to build that table? 5 or 10 minutes?
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

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« Reply #106 on: January 08, 2017, 10:48 AM »
How long did it take for you to build that table? 5 or 10 minutes?
Tinker
I have to say no because I have no choice! If I say yes, then somebody from wood magazines will be knocking on my door for interview. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

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« Reply #107 on: January 08, 2017, 10:59 AM »
I have the same limited ceiling height and I find it pretty discouraging. It helps having such a clean clinical space to work in though. I am grateful to be starting work on a new ground floor shop with an apartment above which will give me enough workable height downstairs. I've always been in small workshops and found I was never able to get those spaces under such severe control as the images above. More room definitely helps. But organization is obviously not size contingent. Big shops as well as little shops get cluttered. Kudos to you if you can maintain such an efficient space.




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« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2017, 11:27 AM »
I have the same limited ceiling height and I find it pretty discouraging. It helps having such a clean clinical space to work in though. I am grateful to be starting work on a new ground floor shop with an apartment above which will give me enough workable height downstairs. I've always been in small workshops and found I was never able to get those spaces under such severe control as the images above. More room definitely helps. But organization is obviously not size contingent. Big shops as well as little shops get cluttered. Kudos to you if you can maintain such an efficient space.
Thanks, We have to think how to use the space we have in the best way regardless of the size and be happy and productive. [smile]

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« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2017, 08:25 PM »
How long did it take for you to build that table? 5 or 10 minutes?
Tinker
I have to say no because I have no choice! If I say yes, then somebody from wood magazines will be knocking on my door for interview. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

No matter, you have done a great job on the renovation AND making fine use of the space AND a great use of leftovers and what otherwise might have been thrown away or burned.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

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« Reply #110 on: January 09, 2017, 02:50 PM »
Not sure how I missed this thread until this morning, but the transformation and results are absolutely stunning.  A real inspiration.