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Offline Timtool

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New workshop build
« on: June 21, 2015, 03:29 PM »
Beginning this year i started slowly preparing to build myself a new shop inside my hangar.
This 500m2 hangar is not insulated and open to some winds, currently i do my assembly work in a 20m2 corner that i insulated from the rest but that is getting much too small. All my stationary machines are in the hangar which means that when it is freezing, it also freezes there when i work behind my machines.

So for my comfort and that of the machines (some days there is heavy condensation and water dripping on them) i made plans for a new 180m2 workshop (1937 square foot) comprising a large machine room, a separate assembly room and a finishing room. upstairs i am also making a small temporary apartment.

here i have made a video of the framing of the assembly and finishing area:



I am trying to do this eco-friendly by using as many natural elements as possible, straw as insulation, zero-VOC paint, zero-formaldehyde OSB etc... Not just "for the planet" but also because i work in there and i want a healthy environment.

Currently i am more advanced than in the video, i finished making the doors and windows, insulating and drywalling. i am doing all of this mostly alone for the past two months nearly full time. I have now began working on the apartment and will then start on the machine room!








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Offline caseman

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 04:08 PM »
Looks good, well thought out.  I'm unsure of the straw for insulation but you must be knowledgeable about it's properties. 

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 04:25 PM »
The house I grew up in was very old(by USA standards) and many of the walls had mud, straw, and horse hair for insulation.  That house was always comfortable except in the addition that was added in the 60's.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 10:51 PM »
Great start to what will be a terrific shop.  Nice that you are taking care of both yourself and the planet with the material selection.  Looking forward to the next video in the series.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 03:56 AM »
Nice job!
Hope next video asap to see the progression
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 05:32 AM »
Is it just me that's disappointed not to see a cool aeroplane after reading the word "hangar" ? [embarassed] [sad]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 06:52 AM »
Is it just me that's disappointed not to see a cool aeroplane after reading the word "hangar" ? [embarassed] [sad]

I always struggle to find a working English word, it appears that in English hangar is mostly used in relation to storing planes.
In all other languages i know it designates all big buildings without inner walls, hall or barn come to mind but i don't know if those are more appropriate.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 07:43 AM »
Amazing! How many man hours you spent on that?

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 08:13 AM »
Is it just me that's disappointed not to see a cool aeroplane after reading the word "hangar" ? [embarassed] [sad]

I always struggle to find a working English word, it appears that in English hangar is mostly used in relation to storing planes.
In all other languages i know it designates all big buildings without inner walls, hall or barn come to mind but i don't know if those are more appropriate.

Barn is the word [wink]

Hall tends to be more for formal or social gatherings, exhibitions, shows, etc ... barn is a large multi-purpose / utility building common on large properties ... shed being the more common on small properties.

Regardless ... I think yours just turned into a factory [wink] looking good!

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 08:38 AM »
Great work -- what a joy to have such a large virgin space to plan and fill.  I love how your dog is totally unfazed by the sword saw.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 08:45 AM »
I always struggle to find a working English word...
 

I have the same problem, and I'm a native English speaker...   [sad] 
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 09:48 AM »
Cool as heck , I'm envious
are you gonna live in the apartment ?
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 10:15 AM »
Is it just me that's disappointed not to see a cool aeroplane after reading the word "hangar" ? [embarassed] [sad]

I always struggle to find a working English word, it appears that in English hangar is mostly used in relation to storing planes.
In all other languages i know it designates all big buildings without inner walls, hall or barn come to mind but i don't know if those are more appropriate.

Barn is the word [wink]

Hall tends to be more for formal or social gatherings, exhibitions, shows, etc ... barn is a large multi-purpose / utility building common on large properties ... shed being the more common on small properties.

Regardless ... I think yours just turned into a factory [wink] looking good!


I would suggest that "barn" connotes agriculture. Interestingly enough, on a traditional farm, it's common to have 3 large buildings... the barn for animals, the granary to hold grain, and a machine shed to house machinery and as a workshop.

As a result, I'd have to go with shed, which as a noun in English really has two definitions. The first is a small building for storage and the second is a large, strongly built and open space building that commonly has a large opening on at least one end.


Tom

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2015, 02:28 PM »
Hi Tim

I always enjoy your videos, and look forward to the next ones you post that show what you're doing  with the shop build-out. It looks like a great project.

I agree with Tom re: the use of shed. Thinking back to all the times I visited my grandparents on their farm in Kansas, 'barn' was used anytime hay or livestock were involved, but 'shed' was used for the other buildings (even if large in size) that had tools, tractors, machinery, etc.  It is interesting to read that 'hangar' is used in a multi-purpose way in other languages.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 03:30 PM »
Is it just me that's disappointed not to see a cool aeroplane after reading the word "hangar" ? [embarassed] [sad]

I always struggle to find a working English word, it appears that in English hangar is mostly used in relation to storing planes.
In all other languages i know it designates all big buildings without inner walls, hall or barn come to mind but i don't know if those are more appropriate.

Barn is the word [wink]

Hall tends to be more for formal or social gatherings, exhibitions, shows, etc ... barn is a large multi-purpose / utility building common on large properties ... shed being the more common on small properties.

Regardless ... I think yours just turned into a factory [wink] looking good!


I would suggest that "barn" connotes agriculture. Interestingly enough, on a traditional farm, it's common to have 3 large buildings... the barn for animals, the granary to hold grain, and a machine shed to house machinery and as a workshop.

As a result, I'd have to go with shed, which as a noun in English really has two definitions. The first is a small building for storage and the second is a large, strongly built and open space building that commonly has a large opening on at least one end.


Tom

Hmm ... no stables for animals?

I've always seen "barn" as a bare utility structure (hence my thinking). Locally we see shed small, barn big.

... regardless, NA and down under interpretations of a euro structure [big grin]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2015, 04:23 PM »
Kev, it's stuff like this that makes me stop and think for a minute......'stable' has always been (for me, at least) a structure where horses are kept.  I don't think I've heard another usage for that word.  Around here (Loudoun County and Fauquier County) there are a lot of horses, and everything relating to the horses is listed as a 'stable'.

English is a strange language.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2015, 04:27 PM »
Don't they have "shearing sheds" in OZ? Places where lots of sheep/goats get haircuts at the same time by several enthusiastic "mates"? I've always wondered about that term as used outside this country... With sheep involved???
Tom
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2015, 04:53 PM »
I have started an etymological incident! So this barn used to be a stable that contained BBB cows (Belgian white-blue), horses and pigs with a second level where we stored straw bales. Until about 8 years ago when we tore everything down on the inside and had a polished concrete floor poored and used it as a barn to store our farming equipment.

then i started doing some woodworking and it grew and grew up to a point where it is now my main income source. I am building this new shop in order to better separate both activities.

@Jeff, i have no idea how many hours and i prefer not to count! I thought i would do it in two steps and make a break in between to work again for customers but now i am thinking about going to the finish. Then i would hope to be done by August and be ready before it gets colder. If i want to heat it, it needs to be completely closed.

@Billy, indeed i will live up there with my GF, we bought the barn with the house next to it, but it needs too much work so we will tear it down and rebuild it. Meanwhile we will live in the apartment. The barn and house used to be of my grandparents, they had the house made in pre-fab in the '70s when their brick farm burned down.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 05:59 PM »
Thanks for taking the time and sharing your build with us can't wait for the next vid

Cheers Robert

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 07:37 PM »
Don't they have "shearing sheds" in OZ? Places where lots of sheep/goats get haircuts at the same time by several enthusiastic "mates"? I've always wondered about that term as used outside this country... With sheep involved???
Tom

Yes they do, shearing, milking, etc. But typically not tall open structures.

Mate is an odd term, particularly when you consider its meaning as a verb [eek]

Personally I've always considered a "shed" as storage (wood shed, tool shed, gardening shed) ... I keep things in a shed, but I do things in a workshop.

The only way out of this is for us to come up with a well abstracted object model for structures [big grin]

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 07:01 PM »
How about "out building" - I use that or simply workshop -- since, that is what it is. Thanks for posting, Tim. I too enjoy seeing your work in process and watching all of your videos.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2015, 09:33 AM »
Personally I've always considered a "shed" as storage (wood shed, tool shed, gardening shed) ... I keep things in a shed, but I do things in a workshop.

Shed or Workshop varies a lot, a really interesting one e.g. ... you'ld definitely retire to a shed to escape the other half, and when asked what you are doing the correct term is of course 'jarvising'!!!

Now that doesn't really fit with a workshop, a place of industry and production whereas the whole point of jarvising is to produce nothing!

So shed: storage and faux work, workshop: REAL work :)

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2015, 10:31 AM »
I just got onto this party.  I have a couple of comments beyond what a great job you are doing.
I would think straw or hay wood be great insulation.  I see plenty of houses with thatched roofs in Germany and Denmark.  I am sure there ore plenty all over Europe.  I have never seen any here in USofA, but that might be a matter of building and fire codes.  I never looked into that part of building construction. 

About what your building should be called:  How about "abarntment"?   ::)
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2015, 05:54 PM »
I think i forgot to post some in between progress, but here is how it currently looks. I will compile videos of the different steps once it gets a little less hectic. i should have finished it by 1st of august and i only just started moving in the tools today... so work is starting to pile up so badly that i had to scrap an important commissioned job who's deadline i wouldn't have been able to meet anymore.

Assembly room, floor is French pine that i finished with 3 hardwax coats.



Machine room, still some electrical work to do and figure out the DC system.







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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2015, 09:07 PM »
Tim.  Looks great.  All I can say.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2015, 11:19 PM »
Wow! Tim, you've got a great space there. Really looking forward to seeing how you fill it up! BTW, I'm loving my MFTC - great plans.


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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2015, 11:40 PM »
F...ing awesome shop

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2015, 12:19 AM »
Is envy really a sin? I think you're making mine perfectly rational !!

Awesome.

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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2015, 03:33 AM »
I think i forgot to post some in between progress, but here is how it currently looks. I will compile videos of the different steps once it gets a little less hectic. i should have finished it by 1st of august and i only just started moving in the tools today... so work is starting to pile up so badly that i had to scrap an important commissioned job who's deadline i wouldn't have been able to meet anymore.

Assembly room, floor is French pine that i finished with 3 hardwax coats.

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Machine room, still some electrical work to do and figure out the DC system.

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Tim, It's really shameful that paying jobs have to screw up our scheduling.

That is really looking great in spite of your necessary infringements. Looking forward to seeing all that space filled with toys >>> and projects.
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Re: New workshop build
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2015, 04:35 AM »
Thank you Tim for sharing this documentation of your marvelous work!

Your shop looks like it would be fun to work within, the best photos i like is the nearly empty shop with your dog everywhere, sitting there, a little bored. He is sweet :-)

I have a question regarding the outside walls, is it faster to assemble the whole walls with wood and beams and so on, rather than to use stones like ytong or so?
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