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Offline Gwerner

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Yet another Sysport build
« on: July 30, 2015, 12:51 AM »
Before undertaking a Sysport build using good plywood (need to build 6), I decided to make a practice run out of MDF. Huge shout out to MrBigerock and his great youtube videos. Got the cabinet put together tonight and will start on the drawers tomorrow. I plan on making this one mobile and adding some tool hooks, paper towel holder, and maybe a power strip to it so I can roll it up next to the workbench while working on a project.

Learned a lot while working this, mostly how to use the LR 32 and begin my conversion to measuring everything in metric. I do need to learn how to prevent my joints from drifting apart while using pocket screws. I used dominos in each panel hoping that would prevent the drift but it didn't. Anyone have any tips on keeping the joints flush when driving the pocket screws?


Offline travisj

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 01:22 AM »
I have always driven the screws slowly and used corner clamps (mine are Jet) and/or the Rockler Clamp-It squares and several deep throat f-style clamps.  It can be tedious setting everything up, but IMO, a little extra time spent at that stage is better than the constant irritation the unevenness would cause me (I have some minor OCD issues - only with tools and fishing equipment...).

I really like the design of those cabinets and have watched MrBigerock's videos several times.  We are loosely planning on moving in a year so I am debating whether to build sysports or a chaos wall in the new space.  Please post more pictures as you go.

Offline Gwerner

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 11:56 PM »
Had to take some time away from the shop but was finally able to get the cabinet boxes built and mounted. Used maple plywood and edge banded it in walnut. Time to start building the drawers.


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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2015, 07:23 PM »
Nice clean job in what seems like a very organized workshop.  Be sure to post the doors when you finish.  With regard to your pocket hole question, I have had good luck with the Kreg right angle clamp. i drill the holes in pairs next to each other, then use one for the clamp and drive the screw in the other.  Remove the clamp and then drive the second screw.  With practice and the right amount of clamping pressure, everything can line up nicely, especially if you use dominos. 

I made the switch to metric a couple of years ago and haven't looked back. Tons easier.  No more fractions!

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2015, 06:14 AM »
+1 for the right angle clamp and double screwing.
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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2015, 07:55 AM »
ikea makes some perfectly sized melamine cabs for the sys. and the holes lines up perfectly for the sys az
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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2015, 08:03 AM »
ikea makes some perfectly sized melamine cabs for the sys. and the holes lines up perfectly for the sys az

Got a name or product number? Thanks

Offline Gwerner

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 06:11 PM »
Finally got the cabinets finished and loaded up today. Now to decide what to fill the empty space with  [wink]


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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 06:32 PM »
Now to decide what to fill the empty space with  [wink]

Two more Festools...that's obvious.


Nice job, really like the RTS 400 T-loc. Makes that tool jump right out at you. I've tried to do the same with different colored T-locs but then I forget what color signifies what tool.

Offline Nick K.

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2015, 08:45 PM »
Got a name or product number? Thanks

I would guess it's this. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00265458/
Looks like it could work. Didn't look at if the one in that link is the correct size but there are lots of other sizes.

Offline Pizza Steve

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2015, 02:44 PM »
Great job on the sysports!

How did the mobile sysport cart go?  Does the MDF hold up for a sysport?

Offline Gwerner

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2015, 03:14 PM »
Great job on the sysports!

How did the mobile sysport cart go?  Does the MDF hold up for a sysport?

The mobile cart went together great but I can't really say yet how well the MDF will hold up since I haven't really been using it much. I'm waiting on some more drawer slides so I can reinstall them in the mobile cart (I had to steal some out of it to finish the mounted sysports). I would imagine the MDF will be just fine in my application since it's only going to be used in shop.

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2015, 03:38 PM »
Looks really nice, a job well done!

I'm currently working on a layout for a similar "sysport" that additionally to my systainer and future systainers can also house my l-boxxes.

Again, yours looks really nice and very well built!

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2015, 10:40 PM »
Finally got the cabinets finished and loaded up today. Now to decide what to fill the empty space with  [wink]

Hey looks good , I really want a black and yellow systainer, where did you get those ?
Billy
Billy

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 10:59 PM »
ikea makes some perfectly sized melamine cabs for the sys. and the holes lines up perfectly for the sys az

Got a name or product number? Thanks

@#Tee
I too am interested.

Thanks, Mike A.

Offline Gwerner

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2015, 03:19 PM »
Finally got the cabinets finished and loaded up today. Now to decide what to fill the empty space with  [wink]

Hey looks good , I really want a black and yellow systainer, where did you get those ?
Billy

Lee Valley sells them.

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2015, 07:45 PM »
K thanks guy
Billy

Offline P3cca

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2015, 01:59 PM »
Hello all

I am very interested in the IKEA solution as it would kill two birds with one stone [eek]

1.  I finally agree to take the Mrs to IKEA and then she is a happy bunny!
2.  I get an out of the box solution that I could begin using immediately (I am very very new to wood working and festool)!!!

If anybody could help me locate the item from he IKEA UK store then that would e greatly appreciated.  I have already search from the original link and I get the US IKEA site that I do not seem to be able to cross reference with the Europe site?

Thank you in Advance

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2015, 11:22 PM »
Hi!

@P3cca

Maybe take a look at the "METOD" series for Germany/Europe. Can't guarantee it though, but it seems to be the closest match.

-> http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/60260429/#/40246118

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline P3cca

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2015, 02:06 AM »
That is brilliant thank you for the link.

I have just checked the dimensions and unless I am missing a trick I do not think the IKEA cabinet would work and the wife is going to be gutted that I shall now refuse to take her to IKEA  [crying] [crying] [crying]

SYS AZ specs
•427 wide
•380 deep

IkEA "bodgit and scarper" solution
•400 wide (I presume this includes the wooden frame)
•370 deep (maybe work if we do not want a  door blocking all of my green koolaid boxes!

Any other suggestions?


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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2015, 05:44 AM »
Didn't know you wanted to use the SYS-AZ "shelves" - to find a matching cabinet is going to be a bit tricky I guess.

And even when you build them yourself, 400 is going to be a bit small anyway when I look at the Systainer. Sorry, I didn't pay enough attention to the dimensions.

So, what about getting this: http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/60212565/#/60212565 and cutting it to have inside dimensions of 425 x 380 x 1000 before assembly? You could make 2 out of it. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver








Offline mike_aa

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2015, 09:18 AM »
Hi!

@P3cca

Maybe take a look at the "METOD" series for Germany/Europe. Can't guarantee it though, but it seems to be the closest match.

-> http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/60260429/#/40246118

Kind regards,
Oliver

@six-point socket
Oliver,
I think you are right about METOD!  At the beginning of 2015, in the US, IKEA transitioned over to a new style of kitchen cabinets called SEKTION.  I haven't made any comparisons, but I was told that the new style is patterned after METOD in Europe.  The old style called AKURUM was in place here for over 20 years and is no longer available.

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2015, 08:41 AM »
i had http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/60260429/ laying around so i modified it. iirc the bottom panel was a bit short but i didnt have it around to verify. however the side panel holes lines up perfectly and the sysaz sticks out about 4mm. the predrilled holes works with the locking latch as well. the back sits flush with the sysaz rails but the back cover will no longer work.


When youre feeling depressed just treat yourself to a systainer even if its a mini systainer its ok.

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Offline Patrick Cox

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2016, 11:12 AM »
Before undertaking a Sysport build using good plywood (need to build 6), I decided to make a practice run out of MDF. Huge shout out to MrBigerock and his great youtube videos. Got the cabinet put together tonight and will start on the drawers tomorrow. I plan on making this one mobile and adding some tool hooks, paper towel holder, and maybe a power strip to it so I can roll it up next to the workbench while working on a project.

Learned a lot while working this, mostly how to use the LR 32 and begin my conversion to measuring everything in metric. I do need to learn how to prevent my joints from drifting apart while using pocket screws. I used dominos in each panel hoping that would prevent the drift but it didn't. Anyone have any tips on keeping the joints flush when driving the pocket screws?

These look great!  I am planning to build a couple of these that are the same height as my MFT3 so I can use them on either side for cutting support.  One concern I had is once I put casters on them it seems they may be a little top heavy since they are a bit narrow.  Should I be concerned at all or not?  Thanks.

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2016, 03:11 AM »
Very neat solutions.  However I am still debating with myself, if I should get rid of my systainers,  [scared] and build a hutch style cabinet with doors, on one wall. I would store the various tools in them, with drawers below for clamps and other accessories that come with the various tools. Just seems a shame to throw out the boxes.  [unsure]

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Offline Billy stray

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2016, 09:34 PM »
I'm sure they'd sell quick enough
Billy

Offline Patrick Cox

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2016, 07:53 AM »
Had to take some time away from the shop but was finally able to get the cabinet boxes built and mounted. Used maple plywood and edge banded it in walnut. Time to start building the drawers.



Hi,
Quick question on these if you have a moment.  I am new to woodworking and am working on various sysports myself, including considering a multi column sysport.  Here is what I have been wondering in planning this and what I think about when looking at your design...

1. It looks like your end panels are the same length as your center dividers.  Whereas I had in mind that cabinets are best constructed where the end panels run the full height of the cabinet.  So the top and bottom would attach to the inside face of the end panels, rather than rest on the top of the end panels as your do.  Was this done for a particular reason?  Is one design better than the other?

2. How are your stretchers in the back attached?  It seems that if pocket screws are used that the pocket screws would interfere with each other where the stretchers meet at each interior vertical panel.  Hope this makes sense.

Great finished product and thanks for your comments, or anyone else who would not mind commenting.

Thanks!

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Re: Yet another Sysport build
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2017, 06:27 PM »
Before undertaking a Sysport build using good plywood (need to build 6), I decided to make a practice run out of MDF. Huge shout out to MrBigerock and his great youtube videos. Got the cabinet put together tonight and will start on the drawers tomorrow. I plan on making this one mobile and adding some tool hooks, paper towel holder, and maybe a power strip to it so I can roll it up next to the workbench while working on a project.

Learned a lot while working this, mostly how to use the LR 32 and begin my conversion to measuring everything in metric. I do need to learn how to prevent my joints from drifting apart while using pocket screws. I used dominos in each panel hoping that would prevent the drift but it didn't. Anyone have any tips on keeping the joints flush when driving the pocket screws?
I make up corner jigs on my assembly table.  There are commercial versions - like from Woodpeckers - hold everything square and tight.  Kreg also makes clamps for that job - more money - but if you're in production . . .


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