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Offline leakyroof

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2017, 10:33 AM »
Anyone want to trade their ets ec 125 for my pro5 and an ets ec 150 without the pads?  Lol  [crying] [unsure]
You could easily sell those two and buy the ETS EC 125/3.
  True, esp. since the Pro5 is so hard to get still with Festool trying to catch up to the initial order.  [scratch chin]
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Offline Holmz

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2017, 06:01 PM »
Anyone want to trade their ets ec 125 for my pro5 and an ets ec 150 without the pads?  Lol  [crying] [unsure]

This makes no sense to me.
If the ETS ETC 150 is 5-mm stroke, and the pro-5 is 2 or 3, do you really believe that you are going to want to switch out the base between course and fine sanding? That will get older than switching out router bits.

The 5-mm is not bad for finish sanding, and the smaller strokes are not good for taking material off quickly.

The only people what want one that does it all are those who do not want to spend the money for more sanders, but you are already invested

Or am I missing a key factor?

Offline AVO

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2017, 03:42 PM »
After reading this post many times my question is related to reply #36 from Cheese that states one of the differences between the 125 and 150 is bearing assembly.  It seams to me that that would be an important difference???

First off... [welcome] to the FOG.

Now to your question, the ETS EC 125 & 150 use different pad mounting geometries, thus the 125 assembly is different than the 150 assembly only because of the different mounting shaft styles, that's the only difference. Check out the photos below and it becomes more obvious.

Hi

I have started a new tread about almost the same subject as here. But i think my question belong here instead. I have an old RO150E which has the shaft style without the wings. I can fit the wings-style pad on the RO150E, but the sealing lip ( or is that the brake ? ) is not touching the pad. What will that mean ? Bad dustcollection or ?

I cannot find the old style pads anywhere, and I have two 150 mm sanders and a lot of sandpaper :-/

Offline Distinctive Interiors

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2017, 03:55 PM »
Avo, go and have a look on your thread you started. I have put a link up that you may find useful.

Tim.

Offline Eddy N.

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2017, 08:29 AM »
Hello all of you,
first of all, i am new here and from the Netherlands, so please don't mind my language. I try to be as clear as i can be.

For this topic: when i look at the pictures at Reply #43 and compare the 2 discs (125 and 150 mm) I see that the only difference is/are the 2 cutouts on the 150 disc. Since I want to use the ets ec 150/5 with an 125 mm disc i am wondering if it is possible to cut out these 2 little cutouts of a 125 mm disc myself. Because in that case I will end up with an ets ec 150/5 with 125 and 150 mm pad. And I know that would be the same set up as the Mirka Deros, but to me it looks like the Festool is more dureable than the Mirka Deros.   

Anyone have experience with adjusting the 125 mm pad?

Offline Holmz

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2017, 06:25 PM »
The Festool 150 pad fits on the 125, but not the other way around.
No one has posted such a modification so have at it. Seems conceptually easy enough.

Since you are in Europe and have 230v the DEROS seems to be a good choice.
If you really like the Festool switch over the DEROS paddle then that would make sense too.

Mirka have been making sanders for many decades, so they could be more durable than they "look".

Offline JimmyFord

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2019, 10:21 PM »
Long long time lurker, but this made me register an account.

Has anyone with the ets ec 125/3 using the 150mm pad had any issues arise from using the larger pad at all? I have the ets ec 125 and a couple days ago bought the 150/3 for table and desk tops... but if I can just use the 150 pad on what I already have... I just wanted to check in to see if anything has occurred with long term use of the larger pad before I ‘mod’ my favorite ROS lol.

Regarding the Mirka deros question, you can use the 5” pad on the 6” models (625/650) but not vice versa, and you can only use the 130g weighted pad not the standard 5” pad. Although they all fit all the pads, and seem to work, using the 6” pad on the 550 or the standard 5” pad on the 625/650 will prematurely wear out the machine.  I got the answer from the regional mirka rep for my area, but the weighted pad is only available in medium.

Offline Cheese

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2019, 11:10 PM »
Long long time lurker, but this made me register an account.

Has anyone with the ets ec 125/3 using the 150mm pad had any issues arise from using the larger pad at all? I have the ets ec 125 and a couple days ago bought the 150/3 for table and desk tops... but if I can just use the 150 pad on what I already have... I just wanted to check in to see if anything has occurred with long term use of the larger pad before I ‘mod’ my favorite ROS lol.

 [welcome] to the FOG!

I purchased a ETS EC 125 when they first came out in 2016? I've swapped back and forth with a 125 mm and a 150 mm pad for the last 3 years and everything is fine. If you're hesitant, check out the Ekat files and you'll notice that all the electrical parts are the same.

Offline ScotF

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2019, 12:14 AM »
Except the shaft is shorter on the 125 and so the brake doesn't seem to engage. I noticed the 150 pad spins freely and the 125 engages the brake. Not sure if it impacts performance, but something I did notice when I tested this week.

Offline Cheese

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2019, 09:38 AM »
Except the shaft is shorter on the 125 and so the brake doesn't seem to engage. I noticed the 150 pad spins freely and the 125 engages the brake. Not sure if it impacts performance, but something I did notice when I tested this week.

Remove the 150 pad and see if maybe something is caught between the pad and the bottom of the shaft. Also check to see if there are any small burrs causing a problem. I just fired up my ETS EC with the 150 pad on and at full speed it takes 1/2 - 3/4 of a second to stop. Definitely less than a second.  [smile]

Offline JimmyFord

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2019, 10:15 AM »


 [welcome] to the FOG!

I purchased a ETS EC 125 when they first came out in 2016? I've swapped back and forth with a 125 mm and a 150 mm pad for the last 3 years and everything is fine. If you're hesitant, check out the Ekat files and you'll notice that all the electrical parts are the same.

Thanks cheese, appreciate the response!

Offline rvieceli

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2019, 11:55 AM »
I’ve got an ETS EC 125 with the150mm pad on it and the brake on it works the way it’s supposed to. Mine is newer than Cheese’ manufactures 5-2018. So it still works.

 Ron
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 04:58 PM by rvieceli »

Offline ScotF

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2019, 02:11 PM »
OK. I tried to put the new hard pad on my ETS EC 125 and the pad brake does not work - at all - regardless of the bolt. This is the newer style hard pad with all the extra holes - sander spins pad fine, but you shut it off and the pad just spins and spins until it eventually slows down - no brake engagement at all. I wonder if the newer style is slightly different than the older style hard pads and it now does not work as well as others have reported.

Offline Cheese

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2019, 02:35 PM »
I have the new pad on mine and it works fine.


Offline ScotF

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2019, 02:14 AM »
Thanks. It fits, but definitely does not engage the brake for whatever reason. Weird. I bought a 150/5 so a moot point for the time being and that pad engages the brake the same as the 5 inch pad on the 125.

Offline Cheese

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2019, 02:37 AM »
I also made a video on my iPhone showing how effective the brake is but I’m unable to upload it to this website.  [sad]

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2019, 09:17 AM »
Just read the official description of the sander, what does “active electronic vibration control” mean?

Offline ScotF

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2019, 06:20 PM »
It slows the speed down if there is any vibration detected - speeds up once it is minimized. This happens all the time when I use an interface pad.

Offline jesse_le

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #78 on: April 22, 2019, 10:45 PM »
I just purchased a ets ec 125/3 with a 150 pad it worked as suggested by @Cheese. Looking on the bottom of my housing, it does not show 150/3 rather just a 3.


Offline VirTERM

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #79 on: June 04, 2019, 11:00 AM »
Ok, so I went to my local Festool dealer today and looked at the situation for myself.

Observations:

1) The pad for the 150 does indeed fit the 125.

2) The pad brake works perfectly, whilst the pads are "keyed differently" (looks like a purposely engineered flaw/point of difference IMO to stop people putting the 125 pad on the 150) the 150 pad sits on the 125 just fine. Though as previously stated the addition keying prevents it working the other way (125>150)

3) The pad felt absolutely perfectly balanced both when spinning freely in the air and when on the work doing its thing.

When I was considering the ETS EC 150/3, this concept might have tempted me.  However I have since decided for my second Festool sander, I will go with the ETS EC 150/5, as a better compliment to my RS 2 E. 

Since it appears to work for you, you should pull the trigger, use it for a few months, and then post a review.   If, after a period of time I decide I don't like the 150/5, or want to expand to the 125/3, I might consider it myself, if for no other reason so I can use the same 150 consumables on both sanders.
Fully agree, the 6” pad works just like 5” on etc etc 125, in my opinion, this is the best option.

Offline Dusty.Tools

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2019, 10:45 PM »
Ok, so I went to my local Festool dealer today and looked at the situation for myself.

Observations:

1) The pad for the 150 does indeed fit the 125.

2) The pad brake works perfectly, whilst the pads are "keyed differently" (looks like a purposely engineered flaw/point of difference IMO to stop people putting the 125 pad on the 150) the 150 pad sits on the 125 just fine. Though as previously stated the addition keying prevents it working the other way (125>150)

3) The pad felt absolutely perfectly balanced both when spinning freely in the air and when on the work doing its thing.

When I was considering the ETS EC 150/3, this concept might have tempted me.  However I have since decided for my second Festool sander, I will go with the ETS EC 150/5, as a better compliment to my RS 2 E. 

Since it appears to work for you, you should pull the trigger, use it for a few months, and then post a review.   If, after a period of time I decide I don't like the 150/5, or want to expand to the 125/3, I might consider it myself, if for no other reason so I can use the same 150 consumables on both sanders.
Fully agree, the 6” pad works just like 5” on etc etc 125, in my opinion, this is the best option.
Agreed,

I got the 125 and using the 150 pad is awesome.


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Offline VaDimZH

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2019, 03:02 PM »
So,no one can explain ScotF problem with pad brake on 125/3 with 150 pad?
Is it worth buying 125/3 + 150 pads, or there is any hidden issues?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 03:09 PM by VaDimZH »

Offline ChiknNutz

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2019, 03:33 PM »
Just a +1 for using the ETS EC125/3 successfully with the 150 pad...no issues here.
-Chris
Rotex 150/5 FEQ, CT 36 E, ETS EC125/3, TS75, Domino XL

Offline VaDimZH

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2019, 04:06 PM »
Just a +1 for using the ETS EC125/3 successfully with the 150 pad...no issues here.
Can you explain how is pad brake works?

Offline ScotF

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2019, 12:22 AM »
I have no idea why my 125/3 does not work - the 150 pads fit fine and it seems to sand OK, but when you power it off the pad spins down. On my 125/3 with the 125mm pad or my 150/5 wiht the 150mm pad, the brake stops the pad instantly - so you can literally set the sander down immediately after turning it off - saves some time. I have tried the new and old style pads with the same result.

Offline VaDimZH

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2019, 03:47 AM »
ScotF,thanks!

I'll better stay with 150/3.

I don't want some hidden issues with 125/3 and 150 pad.

Offline veric13

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2019, 11:52 AM »
I purchased an ETS EC 125 about 2 years ago.  I put the 150 pad on it and it has worked beautifully every time.  The brake works every time.  If I remember correctly I did have to turn the pad so it would sit correctly on the shaft, so maybe some of you aren't seating the pad "properly".  I suggest this setup to everyone that ever thinks about buying the ETS EC 150, because it is cheaper.  It also gives pad size flexibility, though honestly I only used the 125 pad like 3 times when I first got it.

Offline manuc

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2019, 06:46 PM »
My ETS EC 125 works fine with the 6” pad. Brake works as well. Was using it tonight with no issues.

Offline mikegandy

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #88 on: August 15, 2019, 08:46 PM »
Just got an ETC EC 125 manufactured 12/2018 and put a 150 pad on and everything works perfectly. Brake engages the same on either 125 or 150. Just another confirmation
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Offline VirTERM

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Re: ETS EC 125/150?
« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2019, 12:56 PM »
I use thin protection pads when working with Abranet, to be honest, I actually always leave it on. That applies to both 5" and 6" pads