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Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2016, 07:05 PM »
With the addition of the interior vertical extrusion on each side, do you need the rear ones?  Could you not just make a framed top and a framed bottom to give you a large base for stability and connect them with four extrusions to support the hole placement in the drawers, further reducing both weight and cost but not compromising rigidity?

Thanks for sharing!

I think you're right. A minimal version would be a squarish frame to hold the casters with the four uprights to catch the drawer slides screws. Then you could use two or three short pieces to stabilize  the tops of the uprights but the drawer slides themselves go a long way towards that.

There are a dozens of options at 8020 for keeping the uprights upright.

Without the rear support, it is stable.  Just keep in mind that this is 1020 T-Slots, not 1010 T-Slots.  It is a lot beefier.

Additional, I have a folding MFT table hang in the back.  It makes even stronger since it runs horizontal between 2 rear vertical posts.  I will take pictures with I use it next time.

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2016, 07:48 PM »
@promark747

You are both correct.

What Richard was talking about was the fact if you think of the side of the extrusion... The piece is divided down the middle by an about 8mm slot. On each side of that slot is an aluminum piece that is about 15mm wide. So that from the rear of that slot to the front face of the side is about 23mm.

You are correct though that the over all size of the extrusion is 1.5 inches.

Ron

That's exactly what I meant, the slot is 8mm, each face is 15mm (X2), total of 38mm or 1.5".

Thanks Ron.

RMW
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2016, 07:49 PM »
@supimeister - what are "panel clamps"?

RMW

Love the sysport @BadRobot.  If it weren’t for my L-dollies, I would definitely consider it, but I do hate how much space they waste and lack drawers if not L-racks.

any chance one of you 80/20 lovers have tried to use 80/20 for panel clamps?
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Offline supimeister

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2016, 09:29 PM »
@supimeister - what are "panel clamps"?

RMW

Love the sysport @BadRobot.  If it weren’t for my L-dollies, I would definitely consider it, but I do hate how much space they waste and lack drawers if not L-racks.

any chance one of you 80/20 lovers have tried to use 80/20 for panel clamps?
Sorry, I don’t mean to distract from the thread... Something like this http://damstom.com/panel-clamps/
or this http://www.ptreeusa.com/clamp_panel_glueUp.htm

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2016, 10:11 PM »
@supimeister - what are "panel clamps"?

RMW

Love the sysport @BadRobot.  If it weren’t for my L-dollies, I would definitely consider it, but I do hate how much space they waste and lack drawers if not L-racks.

any chance one of you 80/20 lovers have tried to use 80/20 for panel clamps?
Sorry, I don’t mean to distract from the thread... Something like this http://damstom.com/panel-clamps/
or this http://www.ptreeusa.com/clamp_panel_glueUp.htm

Got it. At the risk of furthering the distraction while responding to the question... yes. I have thought about it but not come up with anything interesting.

Years ago I had a set of these clamps and you could replace the wood with 80/20 but that's all I've got.

And now back to your regularly scheduled topic...  [big grin]

RMW
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2016, 10:20 PM »
Panel clamps....you could thread eye bolts into the ends of two lengths then maybe use clevis rod ends but I don't know of any ready-made hardware to get you the rest of the way.

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2016, 12:44 PM »
I converted the space under my workbench into storage organizer.  I just used leftover t-slot I had.  Only spent $17 for 1/4 plywood and time to cut it to size.


Offline Arvid

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2016, 03:28 PM »
this would be a nice rack setup in a van or box truck. nice and light weight and clean. something would have to be figured out how to mount it from tipping over. but i can see this design working well in a van.

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2016, 12:33 PM »
This is my multifunction stool that fits Festool Systainer MIDI.

« Last Edit: September 30, 2016, 12:37 PM by BadRobot »

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2016, 12:43 PM »
this would be a nice rack setup in a van or box truck. nice and light weight and clean. something would have to be figured out how to mount it from tipping over. but i can see this design working well in a van.

There are a couple options that you can attach t-slots to the floor or wall, for instance, Aluminum Floor Mount Base Plate.



I built the entire garage wall with 80/20 t-slot as skeleton.  Then I just attach or rearrange as I want.  It can reuse over and over again.

Offline josephny

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2019, 09:03 PM »
This is my second generation which costs the same as the first generation but double the capacity.  Beside, it has folding MFT table in the back (not show in the picture). 

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It is true that 80/20 and Sys AZ is not a good combination in term of cost.  However, the flexibility is unlimited.  I use it as miter/chop saw extension and MFT table.  I have limited space to work with.  I have to be resourceful as much as I can.  I will take pictures of folding MFT and extension when I use it.

Awesome...can you show a materials/price list for this one as well?

This is the total cost so far, $314.60.  It depends on how many Sys AZ you put in.  I just fully populated on side.  That is the total cost at this point without Sys AZ and casters.

I populated another side with Harbor Freight Storage boxes and Festool Sortainers.

The cost does not include folding MFT table in the back and saw extension.

The part list is below.  You don't have to make it as high as mine.  I have limited space, so I have to expand upward.  Another reason is a storage for Festool rails.

T-Slot         Qty   Note
1 x 2 x 36 3/4   4   Width
1 x 2 x 60           6   Height
1 x 2 x 60           6   Side rails
1 x 2 x 14           6   Depth

I'm new to 8020 but I'd love to make exactly this for my systainers.

I'm having a hard time identifying exactly what parts (for example, the "Left F1-4" is confusing to me).  And, the pricing I'm finding is much higher than on your cost list.

Any chance I could trouble you to help me find the right parts at the right price?

Thank you!

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2019, 10:09 PM »
If you go to 8020.net, the price is standard what corporations pay for.  However, I am not corporation so I have to purchase overstock or used aluminum extrusions (but most of them are overstock).  Additional, I also don't buy long pieces unless I really need them.  Most short pieces I need to build cabinet is 12" - 18".  These piece are cheaper.  Finally, my sources of aluminum extrusion are Craigslist and eBay.  There are a couple of 80/20 competitors that sell 80/20 compatible products.  Their price are a little cheaper than 80/20.  You have to consider shipping into your total price as well.

Final suggestion will be "MAKE YOUR OWN CONNECTORS",  Buy 1 1/2 square angle bars to make 90 degree connectors or 3" steel bars to make 3"x3" or 3"x6" connectors.  Most of the costs are connectors as 80/20 imply.

I will take a couple pictures that I use IT communication rack to build storage organizer tomorrow if the weather permits.

Offline Dusty.Tools

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2019, 01:36 AM »
If you go to 8020.net, the price is standard what corporations pay for.  However, I am not corporation so I have to purchase overstock or used aluminum extrusions (but most of them are overstock).  Additional, I also don't buy long pieces unless I really need them.  Most short pieces I need to build cabinet is 12" - 18".  These piece are cheaper.  Finally, my sources of aluminum extrusion are Craigslist and eBay.  There are a couple of 80/20 competitors that sell 80/20 compatible products.  Their price are a little cheaper than 80/20.  You have to consider shipping into your total price as well.

Final suggestion will be "MAKE YOUR OWN CONNECTORS",  Buy 1 1/2 square angle bars to make 90 degree connectors or 3" steel bars to make 3"x3" or 3"x6" connectors.  Most of the costs are connectors as 80/20 imply.

I will take a couple pictures that I use IT communication rack to build storage organizer tomorrow if the weather permits.

Can I make a shout out for Faztek. I have made 10 carts/cabinets using their extrusion. It’s cheaper because you are not paying for the brand name.

Jamieh@faztek.net is who I worked with.

Ben

PS I have no financial connection to them, I’m just a fan.


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Offline josephny

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2019, 05:42 AM »

Thanks very much guys!

I'll keep looking around and contact Faztek also.


Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2019, 06:04 AM »
You can buy aluminum angle bars or flat aluminum bars and cut to make 90 degree connectors like these.

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If you have a good drill press and drill press table, you can do repletable holes or you can make a jig and you will save a lot of money.  You can also use carriage bolts and nuts instead of hex cap screws and t-nuts.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 02:38 PM by BadRobot »

Offline rst

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2019, 08:53 AM »
8020 quick frame, 18ga steel U pans with slots for feet, over travel full extension slides, 1/4" black ABS side and back panels

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« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 08:57 AM by rst »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2019, 10:01 AM »
@rst what’s the nominal size of the overtravel slides?

Offline promark747

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2019, 10:49 AM »
8020 quick frame, 18ga steel U pans with slots for feet, over travel full extension slides, 1/4" black ABS side and back panels

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Nice...about how much would that setup cost?

Offline rst

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2019, 12:39 PM »
I never did a cost analysis, I just knew that it would be much cheaper that the U slot material.  I think I paid a fabricator that I work with $10.00@ for the pans, the slides were 12" with the overtravel, I can open the lids without removing.  I bought the slides off Ebay...10 slides for $50.00.  They have a rubber nub that prevents them from opening easily.

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2019, 05:22 PM »
The cheapest is to buy government surplus. For example, I bought this cabinet for $35 plus tax and 2 hour drive to pick it up.



It fits 2 Systainers side-by-side perfectly.  Additionaleach shelf has 2 electrical outlets so I can make it as a charging station. The shelf is removable from the sliders so Sys-2/Sys-3/etc can fit. However, I don't have enough Systainer to fill it in.

I built base as a dolly so I can roll it around the garage.  The cost of the dolly exceed the cost of the cabinet itself.

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2019, 05:41 PM »
Storage Organizer

I have communication rack lays around in the garage so I make good use of it.  I used left over aluminum extrusions and cut 12" each.  Then attatched to the communication rack with 90 degree brackets.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 05:48 PM by BadRobot »

Offline BadRobot

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2019, 11:46 AM »
Mobile cart

It is for medium or light duty.  It is enough for me to fix my car/truck or home repairs.  It does not intend for heavy duty as machine or metal fabrication shops.

There is empty space at the bottom.  My initial idea was to put Systainers back to back with Sys-AZ drawers but I have storage more than what I need at this point so I left it as it is for now.  All of cabinets and carts have the same depth.


Offline Dusty.Tools

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Re: 80/20 Aluminum Extrusion T-Slot Sysport
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2019, 03:02 PM »
Mobile cart

It is for medium or light duty.  It is enough for me to fix my car/truck or home repairs.  It does not intend for heavy duty as machine or metal fabrication shops.

There is empty space at the bottom.  My initial idea was to put Systainers back to back with Sys-AZ drawers but I have storage more than what I need at this point so I left it as it is for now.  All of cabinets and carts have the same depth.

I love that hinged system you have going there! I've been looking for a way to mount those two tools efficiently!

@dusty.tools