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Offline SRSemenza

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Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« on: June 15, 2018, 09:15 PM »
     
      After years of use and some in between experiments I have made some changes to my nail gun and pneumatic set up for site work. The original with all the details can be viewed here Complete Pneumatic Gun System in Systainer

    The original worked well but I made changes and went just a bit bigger because I always wanted to be able to put hearing protectors in the unit, when I changed hoses they did not fit well at all, wanted to have three hoses and be able to run all three guns. Old unit would not hold three of the original regulators, nor three hoses, nor hearing protectors, etc.

    The changes are ......................

   Now using a manifold for three guns off one CO2 bottle instead of having them connected to separate bottles with separate regulators.
 
  Smaller regulator freed up space.

  Went from a Sys - I size drawer unit to a Sys- III large drawer. Added 4" to the height but the trade off is that the hoses no longer drag on the floor (the way the hoses come from the top of the manifold helps with this too).

   Three hoses one 25' and two 20' . Two in the drawer along with hook, lid brace , and regulator. One in the old regulator spot.

   One hanging hook for a gun or HP. Can use or not use. All my guns now have hooks so they can just be hung on the Systainer.

   The lid brace is needed to keep it from closing when pulling on the hose.


                                                              


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Offline RustE

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Re: Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 09:55 PM »
Coilhose?  And are you happy with them?

I have two of the Flexeel straight hoses (1/4” & 5/16” ID) with their 6-ball couplers.  Both nice, but I like the 5/16” ID better of the two. 

I have not tried the coiled style because I dislike air hoses that tend to pull tools away from me.

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Re: Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2018, 12:15 AM »
Coilhose?  And are you happy with them?

I have two of the Flexeel straight hoses (1/4” & 5/16” ID) with their 6-ball couplers.  Both nice, but I like the 5/16” ID better of the two. 

I have not tried the coiled style because I dislike air hoses that tend to pull tools away from me.

Yes Coilhose Flexeel.  I like them.  I know what you mean about the hose pulling on the tool. I have tried four coiled hoses (all 1/4"). Those cheap yellow ones that are quite stiff. Some cheap blue ones that came with my original regulators (Kobalt / JacPac) , Coilhose non-Flexeel, and these Flexeel. I would say the order I have them listed is the order of bad to good.

The Flexeel have enough give that tension is reduced compared to others. They also do not compact as tightly as the stiffer ones. That makes sense , of course. I don't really notice any pulling until I get to half the length. Beyond that it gets progressively worse but still not bad. They are flexible enough to just bend around objects such as a ladder. I don't feel that I am fighting it all the time like with some. The cheap yellow ones are pulling, snagging , and fighting from the first few feet.

Three other things that help are the light weight, the fairly long straight section at the gun end (this prevents the coil from bumping against your arm or hand in odd positions), and the small diameter coils don't get snagged / looped on things like the larger diameters do.

My experience has been to figure the comfortable working length is less than the stated hose length. If you try one go one size up from what you think you want. And figure what you think you want as about 3/4 of the stated hose length. So if you want to be able to reach 15' comfortably with very little pulling / resistance, don't get a 15' hose .... get a 25' hose.

Seth

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Re: Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2019, 03:21 PM »
Looks great! Thank you for sharing what you've learned. I just took advantage of Woodcraft's sale to get a deal on a Sys-IV :-)

Where did you get the regulator? It looks like Lowe's is out of the CO2 business. Is it something that any paintball supplier would have?

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Re: Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2019, 04:44 PM »
Mine are Interstate Pneumatics WRCO2

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Nail Gun / Pneumatic Systainer updated
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2019, 04:51 PM »
Very neat Seth!

Your stick propping up the lid reminds me of the time (Warning! Way off topic) James Brown’s Cadillac stretch limo pulled up to the entrance of the National Video Building in midtown Manhattan. I was visiting my wife at work. MTV had studios in the same building and the King Of Soul was booked.

As I checked out the hot tub in the back of the limo one of the Mr. Brown’s assistants came out to get something from the trunk. He held the lid up with one hand then reached in with the other and pulled out a chartreuse shag covered 2x4 and propped the lid up for good.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2019, 01:50 AM »
Very neat Seth!

Your stick propping up the lid reminds me of the time (Warning! Way off topic) James Brown’s Cadillac stretch limo pulled up to the entrance of the National Video Building in midtown Manhattan. I was visiting my wife at work. MTV had studios in the same building and the King Of Soul was booked.

As I checked out the hot tub in the back of the limo one of the Mr. Brown’s assistants came out to get something from the trunk. He held the lid up with one hand then reached in with the other and pulled out a chartreuse shag covered 2x4 and propped the lid up for good.

Maybe I could use some orange felt covering for the prop stick?  [big grin]

Seth
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