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Offline Pmc2013

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Domino beaded face frame
« on: August 02, 2019, 03:59 AM »
Looking for some guidance or recommendations.   I am to build some cabinets with a beaded face frame.  I have the kreg jig for the face frame notching/routing and was thinking about not using pocket screws for frame assembly.  I was thinking about using my Domino to connect the stile and rails.  Anyone done this?  I was considering just adding some depth to the mortise plow to compensate for the 1/4 inch notch ill be removing for thr joinery.  Thoughts?   
CT MIDI, domino 500, ets150/5, TS55, Ro50 RO90, Carvex, DTS400

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2019, 05:50 AM »
I picture of what you are building would help in answering your questions. I am
 not a commercial woodworker, but have built lots of cabinets using only Dominos. I find pocket hole joinery to induce creep as the screws are tightened.
Birdhunter

Offline Pmc2013

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2019, 06:52 AM »
I agree with you, hence my desire to use the domino to help with alignement and eliminate creep.  Ill try and post a photo.  Thanks 
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Offline RKA

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2019, 07:40 AM »
I think he’s describing a jack miter.  In that case your plan should work out fine if you do the mortises in advance and remember to go a little deeper on the stiles.  Worst case, if you forget to go deeper, make sure you’ll still have enough meat to cut the domino to fit.  Somehow adjusting the domino plunge depth is probably still at the top of the list of blunders for me.
-Raj

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2019, 08:18 AM »

Snip.
 Somehow adjusting the domino plunge depth is probably still at the top of the list of blunders for me.

After making my share of depth errors, I now always start cutting all the shallow mortises before changing the plunge depth for the mating mortises. This way, you won't "overcut."

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2019, 11:36 AM »
I made beaded doors for a kitchen using Domino’s for the joints and didn’t feel the ends of the rails provided a big enough target to get the Dominos on axis so I built a jig on plywood to provide a fixture for both rail and Domino so both were aligned. The other side of the plywood provided similar fixtures to align the machine with the rail notch mortises.

Since your face frames will also use narrow stock I suggest making a jig. If processing a whole group of similar pieces at once there is less chance of an occasional mistake. Even so, dry fitting with reduced Dominos before glue up will let you know.

Offline VictorL

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2019, 11:46 AM »
I used 5mm dominoes.  Narrow width with 15mm plunge for narrow stock, and 25mm plunge wide width for opposite part. Here are pictures for tryouts.

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2019, 12:03 PM »
Above post, top photo of Dominos in the end of rails shows the kind of offset (in top piece) a good jig will prevent.

Phot of test notches shows too slow a feed rate (burning). Add better backup if your feeding slow to avoid tearout.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2019, 02:47 PM »
A trim stop would handle narrow stock like stiles well; it eliminates the use of the sight gauge and largely pencil lines .

Offline Brian Livingstone

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 03:49 PM »

The beaded face frame with inset doors is a nice look.  Classic.

Can anyone comment on the Kreg system ?

Thanks.

Brian
Kapex, TS75, MFT, OF1010, OF2200, DTS400 REQ, Parallel guide rails, 800, 1080, 1400, 1900, 3000 guide rail, Domino 500, CT36, CT Midi, , RS2E, RO150, Boom Arm, Crown stops, 6 drawer Sortainer, Carvex, Syslite II, Festool safety glasses must start to wear.

Offline JD2720

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2019, 05:32 PM »

The beaded face frame with inset doors is a nice look.  Classic.

Can anyone comment on the Kreg system ?

Thanks.

Brian

I have been using the Kreg beaded face frame jig for several years. It works great. I do mortise & tenon instead of pocket screws.

Offline Pmc2013

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Re: Domino beaded face frame
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2019, 11:56 PM »
Thanks all.  Charging forward
CT MIDI, domino 500, ets150/5, TS55, Ro50 RO90, Carvex, DTS400