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Offline neeleman

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Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« on: June 12, 2014, 03:11 AM »
From a Dutch dealer I saw this part of the new CTL Midi (#499748).
It seems that they are interchangeable with the older Mini/Midi tops.
The price is only €55 incl. VAT.
I always thought that the black top was different and therefore could not be changed on older Mini/Midi's.
But now I get it and the grey bottom also need to be changed.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2014, 04:01 AM by neeleman »
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Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 03:51 AM »
What is/are the part number(s)?
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Offline neeleman

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 04:03 AM »
I changed my post by adding the part number.
It seems to be one number for the two parts.
The EKAT also shows two parts but with one part number.
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Offline scholar

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 05:15 AM »
That is useful thank you.

I will no doubt "need" one of these, although the price, even at Nuts & Bolts is a bit steep at £52.12.

As far as I know the CTL26 has not been similarly updated?



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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 05:55 AM »
That is useful thank you.

I will no doubt "need" one of these, although the price, even at Nuts & Bolts is a bit steep at £52.12.


I think I might 'need' one, too. As you say, the price seems a bit steep - €55 is around £44.19 so £52.12 seems a little high. Perhaps one of the UK dealers on here could do a 'FOG Special' on this item?  [poke] I'm sure they'd sell quite a few.



Oh, and there's no similar update for the CTL26 - that uses a different method of attachment, and I doubt it could be altered to T-Loc as the top of the vacuum is a significantly larger area than the base of a systainer.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2014, 05:57 AM by jonny round boy »
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Offline festivus

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 07:51 AM »
Will this fit the old Midi - ie before Festool refreshed it with greater suction?

Would also be tempted if a little cheaper if so ...

Offline neeleman

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 08:17 AM »
I would think so because the design of the original casing didn't change only the suction only when the Mini/Midi T-Loc version appeared on the market.
You can also check the EKAT catalogue with the number of your Midi and compare that to the updated (middel) version.
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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 08:22 AM »

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 10:30 AM »
Just ordered from http://www.nonpaintstore.nl/en/gereedschap/vacuum-cleaners-and-bags/festool-behuizing-voor-ct-mini-en-ctl-mini-midi.html €56 inc UK shipping - can't be bad.

Cheers




Please post how the change over works out.

Thanks,

Seth

Offline festivus

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 11:41 AM »
I would think so because the design of the original casing didn't change only the suction only when the Mini/Midi T-Loc version appeared on the market.
You can also check the EKAT catalogue with the number of your Midi and compare that to the updated (middel) version.

Thanks - will check ...

Offline neeleman

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 11:43 AM »
I also ordered the new T-Loc Midi top.
Will arrive tomorrow.
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Offline neeleman

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2014, 08:50 AM »
I received my new T-Loc Midi top today and installed it on my CTL Midi from 2008.
Was not as easy as I thought it would be.

You have to disconnect three power wires and the extra earth lead to the hose inlet.
And you need longer screws (supplied also) to finally put everything together.

I also noted on the EKAT that this new CTL Midi top (#499748) is a replacement part for the older Midi's and not the one which is on the new Midi because this one has an other part number (#499906 & 500118).
That also counts for the CTL Mini.
And it's nice from Festool that they are updating older parts with the new possibilities of the T-Loc systainers.
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Offline overanalyze

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 09:11 AM »
Awesome! Pics?

Offline scholar

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2014, 04:01 AM »
Received my Mini Facelift set from The Netherlands yesterday.

As posted above, it is a little more fiddle than just screwing on the new top, but on the other hand it is a good opportunity to give the machine a good going over and clean.  The only complication which took an extra few minutes was that being a bit stupid, I did not realise at first that the the new screws are provided 'cos they are longer than the old ones ...d'oh!

A couple of pics







In my view a worthwhile upgrade - the T-Loc fitting is so much more satisfying to use (I found the four clips on the old fitting very annoying).

Now, come on Festool, where is the facelift for the CT26?!

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2014, 04:40 AM »
I was told by Festool USA that I could do this upgrade, but both times I tried to order they were OOS on it. Since I got my CT36AC I sold my Midi, so no longer need it but I appreciate that what I was told is accurate and can be done.

I'm sure this info will help a number of others, so thanks very much for posting it!
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Offline overanalyze

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2014, 07:55 AM »
Thanks for the pics. I see this being an upgrade I do soon. I always keep the compact cleaning kit on my midi and this would make it faster to take that on and off.

Offline Samo

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 05:29 PM »
$57.85 on EKAT  [sad]

I guess if I broke the top on my Midi it would be worth the upgrade?

I really like the tab above and to the right of the T-Loc latch.  Keeps you counter clockwise, wise guys in line.  [poke]
« Last Edit: July 03, 2014, 09:06 PM by Samo »

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2014, 07:06 PM »
Anyone know if it's considered safe to carry a mini or midi by the systainer handle?  I did this last weekend, and I was worried it might break either the systainer handle or the clips on the [old style] mini.

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2014, 11:46 PM »
Anyone know if it's considered safe to carry a mini or midi by the systainer handle?  I did this last weekend, and I was worried it might break either the systainer handle or the clips on the [old style] mini.

Shouldn't be any problem with an amount of weight that you can actually carry. I have done so many times.

Seth

Offline jimbouk

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2014, 02:18 PM »
I noticed this on ekat the other day. Glad someone has posted about it and showed it can be done. Will go ahead and get one now. Have been waiting since breaking the hose garage to bits by standing on it!
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Offline neilc

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2014, 10:42 PM »
Just completed this upgrade to my Midi dust extractor.

I ordered the parts (2 covers, 4 screws but 1 part number) from Festool USA and they arrived in two days.  The parts group knew the number without me having to look at ekat.  So they must be selling these in some quantity now.

Took about 25 minutes to swap out the top on my Midi.   Four Torx screws from the bottom hold on the black and white top pieces.  Then had to remove the power cord wires from the switch and remove the wire clamp.  The new parts include four longer screws to replace those that are removed.  You do need two sizes of Torx screw tips.

Really like the upgrade.  Not only did they add the T-Loc but they also widened the cord slot at the back which makes removing and recoiling and storing the cord a little easier as well.

I think total cost with shipping was about $60 USD.

neil
« Last Edit: July 10, 2014, 10:44 PM by neilc »

Offline Northern Early

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2014, 11:26 PM »
This is awesome. I was searching on ekat (for my first time) and was having trouble figuring it out. so i searched to find the answer and this thread was in the results. I was cleaning my midi a few months ago and i walked to the other side of the shop tripping on the hose. well 6 feet away as i watched by midi belly flop off the table onto the ground. My Black part is smashed and since fixed with gorilla tape. I would love to not look like a "duct taper" and replace the part. A T-loc would make everything that much much more efficient.

Thanks for the info

Offline joiner1970

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2014, 05:45 AM »
Just ordered one of these too, guessing the 499748 fits both mini and midi ? I hope so as ive ordered it now.

Got stung by Paypal's exchange rates though should have been £44 but paypal charged £46 so its getting closer to nuts & bolts price.

Offline jimbouk

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2014, 05:57 PM »
Switched mine over on saturday. Pretty straight forward to do and like having a brand new bit of kit! :)
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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2014, 06:52 PM »
I really like the tab above and to the right of the T-Loc latch.  Keeps you counter clockwise, wise guys in line.  [poke]

I somehow missed this comment the first time I read it. That *is* interesting, and I do wonder why it's there? Since they haven't incorporated it on the Systainers, I've got to assume it's something unique to the DE's.

Anybody know the real answer?
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Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2014, 07:37 PM »
No idea why it's like that, but it would bug me - I always turn them the other way! Don't know why, but I think it looks wrong with them turned 90* clockwise...

Edit: I'm guessing that the tab could be removed? Why they put it on in the first place is beyond me!
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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2014, 07:58 PM »
<snip> I always turn them the other way!

I wasn't sure which way I normally turned them. I was gonna go look for a picture of the stacks of First-Aid Systainers, then realized I need only glance to the left - at my avatar. I guess I turn them the 'approved' way - but it was an accident!


<snip> I'm guessing that the tab could be removed?

Oh, I'm *POSITIVE* that the tab could be removed.

 [big grin]

I'd say about 30 seconds with a Dremel would do it!
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 02:27 PM »
Got mine today £46 Inc delivery from Holland, worthwhile upgrade. Took about 10 minutes to fit.


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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2014, 11:15 PM »
You know, having gone through this upgrade and really liking it every time I use it, I have to thank Festool for helping owners of their tools 'keep them current' by offering parts and forward-compatibility with so many of their products.

Few companies would go to this trouble to make this possible.

It's one more reason why Festool rocks as a company and their tools continue to deliver great value.

Thanks Festool for 7 years of parts availability after a tool is discontinued, and also for simple upgrades like this one.

neil

Offline P2P

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Re: Update CTL Mini/Midi with new T-Loc top
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2014, 08:07 PM »
Did my T-Loc top changeover today.  Pretty straightforward. One item of note though - the model number / serial number sticker is on the old top!  If you're concerned about this, remove it and glue it on your new top.