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Offline Peter Halle

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A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« on: February 12, 2012, 09:16 PM »
Another of my raw videos...

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Offline duburban

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 09:25 PM »
omg, instamorph!
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 09:26 PM »
Is that bad?

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 09:50 PM »
Another of my raw videos...
Peter

That is great lateral thinking.
It's a pity that speed squares are not universally avalable. The Japanese version is tiny compared to the ones you have. AFAK Thailand doesn't have anything at all.
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 10:06 PM »
Jerome,

I have seen your work.  You are skilled beyond.

You could take a piece of plywood that was lessor in thickness that the rail, drill three or so holes in it, attach a ledge to one end and then use the instamorph to pack into the holes.  Same concept - just even less expensive.

Peter

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 11:32 PM »
Is that bad?

 No, very cool. Its space age goo put to work. I remember first seeing it on here recently.
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 11:39 PM »
Here it is:

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWS5028-TrackSaw-Miter-Gauge/dp/B001J32KMI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1329107918&sr=8-4

I have it and works perfectly, and cheap compared to Festool accessories.

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 01:22 AM »
Jerome,

I have seen your work.  You are skilled beyond.

You could take a piece of plywood that was lessor in thickness that the rail, drill three or so holes in it, attach a ledge to one end and then use the instamorph to pack into the holes.  Same concept - just even less expensive.

Peter
Thanks for the compliment, though I'm  sure it's not deserved.

Your idea is a good one except for the difficulty of buying instamorph ::) Again not in Japan or Thailand.  [crying]
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 04:31 PM »
Well, I managed to go four days without buying anything.   ::)

Peter, thanks for the pointer to Instamorph.  Looks very handy to have around.

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 06:21 PM »
thats slick as snot :>D

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 06:38 PM »
Jerome,

I have seen your work.  You are skilled beyond.

You could take a piece of plywood that was lessor in thickness that the rail, drill three or so holes in it, attach a ledge to one end and then use the instamorph to pack into the holes.  Same concept - just even less expensive.

Peter
Thanks for the compliment, though I'm  sure it's not deserved.

Your idea is a good one except for the difficulty of buying instamorph ::) Again not in Japan or Thailand.  [crying]

it appears that you can buy instamorph and have it shipped internationally for $10 US from the instamorph site.  If you want some squares and instamorph, I certainly will help you out.

Peter

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 07:28 PM »
InstaMorph is generically polycaprolactone (PCL for short) and is sold under a variety of other trade names like Polymorph, ShapeLock etc.

You may find a local version and not have to deal with the vicissitudes of international shipping and customs. I've seen mention of Polymorph being sold in Australia.

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 08:01 PM »
InstaMorph is generically polycaprolactone (PCL for short) and is sold under a variety of other trade names like Polymorph, ShapeLock etc.

You may find a local version and not have to deal with the vicissitudes of international shipping and customs. I've seen mention of Polymorph being sold in Australia.



You are absolutely correct.  I found the Australian connection too, but after a hour of searching couldn't find references for Pcl or any of the "brand names" in Thailand or Japan.  It has to be there.  Most of the product is made in China.

Just offering help if desired.

Peter

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 09:07 PM »
I did that ONCE on the kitchen table..........yes women do beat their men. [wink]
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 10:22 PM »
InstaMorph!!! [eek]

Where have you been all my life?!?

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 06:05 AM »
Nice one Peter, I have used this stuff for a few projects already in my house. I fixed a lamp shade that would never stay straight, build a cellphone charging dock with the charging cable built in, fixed my desk chair when one of the wheels had fallen out. And fixed my mothers little shrek donkey so it stands up straight. All this in like 2 days of getting Instamorph. I love this stuff!!!
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 01:02 PM »
Here it is:

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWS5028-TrackSaw-Miter-Gauge/dp/B001J32KMI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1329107918&sr=8-4

I have it and works perfectly, and cheap compared to Festool accessories.

This looks like a good off the shelf solution.  Has anyone else used one of these?

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 01:12 PM »
I have one and have used it a few times. It fits the FS rail fine and the part that fits in the t-slot is beveled so it aligns itself to the slot & is repeatable. The 90 leg is easy to adjust to get it perpendicular to the rail.

Overall it works fine, the only drawback is the shortness of the 90 degree leg which tends to limit accuracy. I don't use it for anything that requires a perfect parallel cut for that reason.

RMW
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 01:14 PM by RMW »
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 01:22 PM »
Great idea Peter!  Thanks for sharing.
Jess

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 11:34 PM »
Very cool Idea, The ever expanding world of User developed accessories. 

You would thing Festool would run some sort of contest for the best user developed accessory. And then Capitalize off of it.

Just look at all the good ideas that come up here on the FOG.
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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2012, 12:10 AM »
Ideas in the middle of the night?  Don't worry, you're not alone!

I don't know why my ideas don't come about twenty minutes after lunch, 'cause that's another time I'd rather be sleeping.

InstaMorph?  I need to get some of that.

Thanks for sharing!!

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 02:32 AM »
Thanks for the vid!!

That Instamorph is pretty neat stuff! Add a few Lego bricks and I can see that quickly becoming even more useful...you'll add the capability for flexible stops and indexes.

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Re: A quick cheap way to set a rail square to your work
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2012, 12:58 AM »
Thanks Peter!  I have updated my homemade parallel guides with Instamorph and also bought a new 12" Swanson speed square and used Instamorph so it can hook up to a guide rail for 90 degree cuts  [thumbs up]