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Offline AccurateSystems.biz

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Jumbo MFT of my own!
« on: May 02, 2007, 11:16 PM »
Well for years I have been building larger MFT's for my customers and finally decided to build my own.

   Since the birth of my son this is the only woodworking project i have been able to find time to get to.
Now, it's not as impressive as the other beautiful projects I've seen on this forum, but it will give me the much needed space to work.
   For all of you with little shop space. My shop also doubles as my garage which has a full sized Chrysler and and only 3' space of storage around the parking spaces. The tools used to be piled up in the middle of one spot along with many miscellaneous items. This allows me to have my MFT always set up and ready to use plus plenty of JUNK stored and mobile.

Here is a little bit about  it:

The table has a 10" gap under it for reaching under with clamps. This also doubles as Systainer 1 and 2 storage and can be cleared out for double the glue up space or staining rack or what have you.

This space also houses my Vs 600 Dovetail joiner and it's templates for which I never really had a safe space for.

On one end, I have a reel for butcher paper,  to be rolled over the top and cut to stain or do glue-ups on.
The other end has a notched section to wheel my CT33 with boom in the back Left. and still have room for a CT22 and CT mini next to it out of the way.

The bottom is storage for up to a systainer 4 in height.

The Base is recessed in about 3 1/2" for knee room and on the back this base is were I keep a variety of clamps close at hand.

The best thing I did was spend the money on those great double locking Poly Casters!

Let me know what you think.

Chris

« Last Edit: December 18, 2007, 11:01 PM by AccurateSystems.biz »
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 11:23 PM »
Chris,

That looks very nice!   Ummm... Ya know, I don't think anyone would complain if you reposted with larger pics.  Personally, I'd like to take a closer look.

Thanks,

Dan.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2007, 11:38 PM by Dan Clark »

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 11:34 PM »
One of the things that has totaly blown me away on this site is the homemade MFT tables and Chris yours is a stunner. What i wouldnt give to have one like that... Well done  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 11:36 PM »
Chris,

TI don't think anyone would complain if you reposted the pics with lager versions.  Personally, I'd like to take a closer look.

Thanks,

Dan.

Ill second that. Love to see the biggest possible.
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2007, 11:39 PM »
Sweet...you could probably drop a table tennis table on top of that for double duty...!

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 12:21 AM »
That Ping pong table is a great idea actually.

I did try to post the images larger, but am not sure how.  I used photoshop to size the images, but the forum screen won't allow them to post.

Is the total number pictures size not to exceed 175 KB or individually?

If so, any suggestions on how to shrink the file size, but keep the visual size large enough to see detail.

Chris
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 12:45 AM »
...If so, any suggestions on how to shrink the file size, but keep the visual size large enough to see detail.

Chris

In Photoshop, use Save for Web.  That option will reduce the resolution to 72 dpi and shrink the file size, but keep the image size from changing, unless you crop the photo first.  Then post the file you saved with the Save for Web option.  That should do the trick - I think.
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 02:31 AM »
Chris,

Check out the FOG Photo Tutorial: http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=292.0.   It's a great reference for processing and posting pics to FOG.   

How do I know it's great?   Well, (ahem) I wrote it.   I'm not only a great writer, I'm modest too!  ;D

Regards,

Dan.

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 09:00 AM »
Is the total number pictures size not to exceed 175 KB or individually?
If so, any suggestions on how to shrink the file size, but keep the visual size large enough to see detail.
Chris

Here's the way it works with attachments:
Each individual attachment can be up to 175 KB
You can attach a total of 500 KB per post
You can attach up to 5 attachments per post

I suggest you post photos that are about 800x600 in size.  That seems to be a size that provides enough visibility for most members.  The photos you posted range from about 63 KB up to about 80 KB.  You can definitely upload photos of about that same KB level but in the 800x600 size.

There are many options for resizing photos.  I happen to use a nice little free program called Irfanview, which makes it really easy to open a photo, crop it, then reduce its size.  Here's a link to download Irfanview: http://www.tucows.com/preview/194967

For more detailed instructions, see the excellent tutorial that Dan wrote.  He's being quite modest, but it really is a great tutorial!!

It would be great to see larger versions of your photos.  If you do it, please modify your original post by deleting the smaller photos and replacing them with larger ones.

Looking forward to seeing the photos!

Matthew
« Last Edit: May 03, 2007, 09:05 AM by Matthew Schenker »
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 09:30 AM »
I'm not only a great writer, I'm modest too!  ;D

Dan,  Is this a "verifiable" claim?  LOL

Dave

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 09:43 AM »
I'm not only a great writer, I'm modest too!  ;D

Dan,  Is this a "verifiable" claim?  LOL

Dave

Absolutely!  Everyone who knows me comments on my modesty.   (Along with my good looks and intelligence, of course.)   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 11:53 AM »
This is not meant as a criticism, just a note on design considerations for people who are reading this thread to gather options on large MFTs:  anything stored under a MFT is going to get covered in sawdust very quickly.  And when deciding what to store under a MFT, always consider how much room you want for clamps and for getting your hands on any handles or knobs that are under the table.

Regards,

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2007, 11:22 PM »
Let me know what you think.

It's beautiful.  I think my favorite part about it is the paper holder at the end--very nice.  I'm soon to build my third (final?) large MFT, and I'm definitely going to use that idea.

Are your casters the 3" size from Woodcraft?  How do they roll in sawdust...or haven't you had a chance to create that much dust yet?  I was going to go with the gray 4" casters from Lee Valley, but I like the look of yours a lot more--they remind me of the old Kryptonics skateboard wheels from back in the '70s.

BTW, congratulations on your new son.

Regards,

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 12:48 PM »
Hi Chris,

Great workbench!  It would be nice if you could post more details and photos.  Quick question-for the rear casters, did you use fixed, swivel or locking.  If they are fixed, did you align them with the length of the bench?

Thanks,
Roland

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 01:19 PM »
Chris, Very nice table, tons of storage as well...
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 09:55 PM »
  Chris,

 That table looks great - solid, huge and mobile. Thanks for posting. Never met you, but do know your dad and thiink the world of him. Somehow, I sense the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. Welcome!

 Bob
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 12:44 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I was able to get back to the image resizing issue I had. Actually more of the issue was with the time, than was with resizing. However the thread from Dan on how to post images was very helpful in getting me in the right direction.

I appreciate all of the good words from everyone on my table.

To answer a few questions I missed over this week:

John,
Actually that is a good point about the space below not protecting your storage from dust. I did take this into account on this build. The space will be primarily be empty during projects. Which will give me room for jigs and in use clamps that will be  close at hand. Then for storage my systainers can be placed out of the way when it doubles as a grocery bag holder for my wife.
Also the distance from the shelf to the bottom of the table is 10" which gives me the room for the quick clamps and my hands.

The wheels are the Woodcraft 3" double locking casters. They all pivot in any direction so no alignment issues. I love them. They roll over dust and the concrete expansion joints like a dream. Not as if much sawdust has hit the ground yet. This week is the week I start my first poker table, so i will work out any kinks that may arise.

Here is a little background on the material I used. I did a demo on an Eddie Baurer store in a mall close to where I live. I could keep any material I could lug out as long as I did it after mall hours. So 3 nights in a row from 9pm - 4am We salvaged alot of display material and lap joint cedar from the ceiling. The MFT's material at the time I thought was solid wood accept when I got it back to my shop realized it was laminated particle board. Amazingly laminated and wrapped. I can't see a seam on the corner.  So long story shorter, I used the cedar for half wall waynes coating in my basement along with my rustic theme bar. I tore the displays apart and used some for this project.

The framework is 3 1/2" x 2 1/2" material. The metal bars on the ends are actually heavy duty steel coat rack bars. The metal brackets were part of the displays that I had to rework and flatten to use as support. The one in the middle horizontal position is actually supporting the rest are for looks. There is an L channel on the shelf directly under the MFT. This was used on their 4' display shelves for protecting the edge from wear and tear to the melamine. The Slide out cart was the base to a clothing display I stripped for material on the basement project. 

I build rustic furniture and this material was perfectly straight and reminded me of timber frame construction. So there lies my table.

Sorry for this being so wordy, but I wanted to answer a few posts at once.

The images have have been switched in my first post to show the slide out cart and one of my family. Proud Dad! He is 6 months old and he is alot bigger than that now.

Chris
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 12:55 AM »
Bob,

I didn't catch your post at first.

Thank you for the good words regarding my dad. Yeah! I didn't fall to far from the tree. We are both bullheaded!

I have heard many good things over the years about you also. Maybe we will have a chance to shake hands some day.

Chris
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 01:16 PM »
He is 6 months old and he is alot bigger than that now.

Amazing how they grow...and eat...and grow out of clothing.  This trend will continue for the next 18 years or so....

Thanks for the extra info--it'll all come in handy when I get started on the new MFT.  Thanks also for the story about how you got the materials--my hat's off to you for making such good use of salvaged stuff.

Regards,

John
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2007, 10:01 PM »
Chris,
I thought I recognized you!  Excellent table, sir.  Even better family and DOG! 
I never thought before how useful such a large table would be, but thinking of how my 'little' mft table has become a fixture in the center of my shop, I can now appreciate how much easier life would be if it were BIGGER.  I scabbed together a convertible shelf that spans the leg spreaders--something I thought would be really useful on jobsites and for shows, but boy, I can see that was a juvenile beginning.

Thanks, though I seriously doubt if I can build one as nice as yours.
Gary

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 08:11 AM »
Hey Gary,
   Fill out your profile! Oh, wait, you don't have to do that on this site ::) Glad to see you on FOG. ;D
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 08:39 AM »
Gary,
Welcome to the forum!  I agree with Mike -- fill out your profile, to make sure other members can see your Web site and other information about you.

Please tell us about how you have used Festool tools for your projects and education efforts!  If you have photos showing the tools in action, please post them.  You can post them here or in the Gallery.

Glad to have you here!

Stay in touch,
Matthew
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2007, 01:41 PM »
I'm not only a great writer, I'm modest too!  ;D

Dan,  Is this a "verifiable" claim?  LOL

Dave

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2007, 06:45 PM »
Okay...I filled out my profile.  Some pretty advanced software here. I'll have to wait until my daughter comes into town for a visit so she can show me how to fill out my profile properly. Now I'll lurk in peace...
Gary

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2007, 06:49 PM »
Gary,
Great, I'm glad you got your avatar and Web site posted.  Actually, I see your avatar but not the Web link.

Yes, there are a lot of details you can enter in your profile.  My suggestion is for people to simply click on "PROFILE" from the main menu, then in the "Modify Profile" area, just go one by one through all the available options and add any information you want.  You don't have to fill in everything, of course, but you should feel free to enter as much as you want. 

If you have any questions about using the profile options, go ahead and post them.  I'm sure other people have the same questions and could learn from the discussion.

Thanks,
Matthew
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2007, 08:13 AM »
Back to the MFT:
I have both the 1080 and the 800 MFT's.  I recently bought a table extension to be used with my most portable 800. I hoped it would give me a little larger work area for the times i have to move my shop outdoors.  I liked the extension so much, it became a nearly permanent fixture on my centrally planted 1080.  I will now order atleast one more extension.  That can be used with the 800 as originally planned.

There are times when i could definitely use a table larger than my 1080.  I am viualizing the use of two of those extensions on one side or each end of whichever table is in use.  Outside is not a problem of walkaround space, but need table larger than the 800.  For inside, there are times when i could use a much larger table than the 1080, but just no space to keep large size as a permanent fixture.  I would need to figure away to anchor my feet to the ceiling joists and work upside down. Fun, i guess, but not very handy.  Anyhow, a couple of extensions would give me the table size needed for the short time of necessity, while the keeping the advantage of quick breakdown.

Bob M, are you listening?  I hope you have another in stock soon.
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2007, 09:16 PM »
superb mft mate.....goes off to open up sketchup
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2007, 09:42 AM »
superb mft mate.....goes off to open up sketchup

Even SWEETER when the materials are scrounged.  This is sketchup heaven! 

Your bench is my like my great grandpa's tool chest, the craftsmans resume when introducing himself to his clients. (Looks a hellova lot better than a drywall bucket)  ;D

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2007, 04:04 AM »
It is a beautiful MFT and family, BUT my ire is peeked when you remind me " My shop also doubles as my garage which has a full sized Chrysler "  It is an old notion left over these decades, and single mindedness like this only continues it. Automobiles (cars) are supposed to be left outside. What used to be called a garage is really a workshop with occasional use of storing minor other things. Today's cars have glaze, clear coats invented to allow these vehicles to stay in the weather. If people insist on storing these things in a garage, more than likely the surface will not wear down sufficiently so a new car can be purchased in a regular interval.
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2007, 09:19 PM »
Quote
It is an old notion left over these decades, and single mindedness like this only continues it. Automobiles (cars) are supposed to be left outside. What used to be called a garage is really a workshop with occasional use of storing minor other things. Today's cars have glaze, clear coats invented to allow these vehicles to stay in the weather. If people insist on storing these things in a garage, more than likely the surface will not wear down sufficiently so a new car can be purchased in a regular interval.

Some suburbs of Chicago with neighborhood associations REQUIRE you to park the car(s) in the garage.  If not, you get fined.  Way off topic, I know.  Since I can't build anything even close to what is shown here, I thought I'd instead throw in my total support of Mr. Lucas' statements.

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2007, 10:06 PM »
Years ago I saw a program where they interviewed a former thief.  When asked what people could do to prevent their cars from being broken into his responce was, "Park it in the garage."  -- and he said this in a tone of voice as if it was the stupidest thing anyone could ask.

I would have to agree...  My next-door neighbor complained about his mail getting stolen and checks showing up at local stores.  But he still put his mail out -- even on Sundays.  Go figure.

No, don't leave the car/truck outside.  And don't leave your tools out either.  And invest in a shotgun.  A big one.

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2007, 06:25 AM »
  Chris,

 That table looks great - solid, huge and mobile. Thanks for posting. .....

Bob,

For those interested in custom or jumbo MFTs, do you know of a source of T-slot aluminum framing that would be compatable with the Festool guiderail system?  Im considering building a MFT that would also incorporate other tools in my home (garage) shop.  It would be entirely framed in T-slot extrusions.

Steve

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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2007, 11:31 PM »
Steve,

When you ask about extrusion,  do you mean other than the 79" lengths we sell in the Festool Line.

Do your other jigs work with Festool extrusion on your MFT Table?

Chris
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Re: Jumbo MFT of my own!
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2007, 09:52 PM »
Steve,

When you ask about extrusion,  do you mean other than the 79" lengths we sell in the Festool Line.

Do your other jigs work with Festool extrusion on your MFT Table?

Chris

Yes, I'm looking for a less costly extrusion that can do the job well.  I don't have any MFT right now :-[ unless you count my 80 YO 3 x 6 library table.

Well, I'd like to partially build an MFT with T Slot Framing because of weight, rigidity and those nifty slots.  I want to mount most of my garage shop into it, flush mount my 9" Delta TS, be able to drop in my miter saw and have it flush to the table, same w the router table in the same spot.  I want to have my 48" lathe be able to rotate in and out of position and have my knives and maybe even my grinder handy , and when I'm not using any of that, be able to use my TS55 w the guiderail system on a sfc big enough to handle full size sheets of hardwood plywood.  Space at home is at an incredible premium 'cause the shop is in the old part of the house.

Putting these tools into the table gives me two things,  It gets rid of one stand and two cabinets.  It also gives me table extensions for my TS, router table and miter saw.

I'm having fun playing with sketchup anyway!