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Offline tallgrass

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2019, 12:27 AM »
I guess I will have to take and post pics.  [scared] I am not sure I can do better than the videos that are made by RUWI and the Examples that Manoor wood has posted in the MFT thread. I will be working on a project in the next couple of days and will try to take some pictures showing how I use them.

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Offline Ralph Mignano

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #121 on: February 24, 2019, 05:12 AM »
Seeing as this is my all-time favorite thread on all things 80/20, I thought I would share a bit of my recent research.

Manor Wood has several great videos showing his incredible aluminum extrusion miter saw stand and aluminum extrusion mft inspired cutting table.



He also has a video highlighting RUWI's new stop rails that are now adaptable for the MFT/3 and lifting tables akin to the Felder FAT300.
RUWI product here - https://ruwi.de/en/produkte/festool-mft3-surface/
Video here -

In this video, beginning around 1:47, he highlights new RUWI dogs that quickly and easily clamp the extrusion to the bench.  I decided I NEEDED this product.

I believe Manor Wood's extrusion is identical to the 40 series from 80/20.  Unfortunately, this product does not exist on the RUWI site, but I did eventually find two sources for it:

https://www.sautershop.de/klemmbolzen-mit-klemmhebel-oe-20-mm-ru-27536?c=15539
I contacted them, and they do ship to the US, though shipping ain't cheap. 

Sautershop also offers a wide variety of other interesting RUWI products - https://www.sautershop.de/multifunktionstische/ruwi-multifunktionstisch/zubehoer-zum-spannen-saegen-bohren/schnellspanner-von-ruwi/

Felder also offers it here - https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/en-US/Workshop/Lifting-tables/Klemmbolzen-mit-Klemmhebel.html

I managed to get a ton of 80/20 15 series extrusion for cheap a long while ago, so even after all my digging to find that exact item, I don't think it will work for me, even though I really wish it would.  Bummer!  It would be a great addition to my 80/20 mft/3 cart - (Attachment Link)

However, I am waiting to hear back from @Ralph Mignano at Benchdogs UK, as I am hopeful that their fence dogs will effectively do the same thing in terms of allowing me to firmly attach my 15 series 80/20 extrusion to my mft.  https://benchdogs.co.uk/collections/frontpage/products/fence-dogs

I hope this helps anyone else in the US who likes Manor Wood's ideas and wants to further play around with them.  Anything that combines the mft/3 20mm layout with 80/20 always intrigues me, which includes basically everything @Richard/RMW posts haha

Hey.  Just thought id post you some images of the Flag Stops for the 1.5 x 1.5 extrusion,  as for the fence dogs they would be no issue with using them with this extrusion as long as you order the sliding T-nuts (M6)from the extrusion company 8020 inc.


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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #122 on: February 25, 2019, 09:00 AM »
RUWI sounds like a perfect addition to the expanding @TSO Products inventory...

 [poke] Hans/Eric

RMW
thanks for the pointer to the RUWI product line, Richard! We are taking note of the general interest in this particular functionality.
Keep the tips and pointers coming, please!

Hans and Eric

Dibs on the first set of MFT/extrusion clamps.  [popcorn]

RMW

@RMA and @tallgrass  - can you provide specifics as to the functionality you are interested in so we know what to look for?
Which RUWI item(s) would you like to see available from TSO?

Hans

@TSO Products Hans generally I'm interested in what I'd call the 20mm fixturing stuff. I don't use an MFT/3 anymore so it'd need to work with 80/20 15 series (8mm slot) and 20/96MM MTF hole pattern. Like:











I'm willing to pre-order if you need the volume to get to an initial stocking order.

Thanks, love what you guys are doing.

RMW
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Offline supimeister

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2019, 09:23 AM »
I would certainly be interested in the same sort of  items, given my use of 80/20 15 series and 20mm mft/3 tops.  I have some 80/20 product en route that I hope to tinker a bit with to try to make a more cost-effective solution for myself, though I know it will not be as fast to use as what RUWI has done.

Offline rst

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #124 on: February 25, 2019, 02:14 PM »
I also would be interested in the RUWI fixturing accessories.  I have a lot of 8020 that I use for all kinds of fixturing. 

Offline tallgrass

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #125 on: February 25, 2019, 02:28 PM »
yes, the above selection is exactly what you want to integrate into the MFT world. I have these and they are of tremendous value. It fundamentally is the ultimate manifestation of the "MFT dog".

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #126 on: February 25, 2019, 11:25 PM »
OK, fellows, - thank your for the specifics.
We will follow up on that and get some samples.

It would help to have your complete contact information via PM or email mention  SUBJECT: RUWI so I can get back to each of you who are interested in this specialty topic. Please include your FOG name so I can connect the dots.

Hans
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Offline Cheese

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #127 on: February 25, 2019, 11:45 PM »
OK, fellows, - thank your for the specifics.
We will follow up on that and get some samples.

Color me in Hans....I’ve been eye balling this stuff for the last 8-9 months.

Offline blaszcsj

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2019, 12:30 PM »
Agreed. Just difficult to find a vendor in the states.

OK, fellows, - thank your for the specifics.
We will follow up on that and get some samples.

Color me in Hans....I’ve been eye balling this stuff for the last 8-9 months.
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2019, 12:37 PM »
More options for 80/20?! Oh yea!
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!

Offline Svar

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2019, 01:24 PM »
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 02:07 PM by Svar »

Offline rvieceli

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2019, 02:09 PM »
@Cheese

In addition to Svar’s links take a look at JW Winco they are great source for all sorts of these widgets and things.

https://www.jwwinco.com/en-us/home

Ron

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2019, 03:21 PM »
Agreed. Just difficult to find a vendor in the states.
Color me in Hans....I’ve been eye balling this stuff for the last 8-9 months.
There. It has been in US for a long time:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/80-20-Inc-T-Slot-Zinc-Economy-Angle-Clamp-Block-40-Series-14117-N/371952381973?hash=item569a16f015:g:6jMAAOSwYlRZGyhU:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=59754&cat=1,41637

http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=45034&cat=3,43576,61994,45034

You can assemble those hold downs yourself with minimal efforts.

Unfortunately the 80/20 clamp block only appears to be available in 40 series and all my 15 series profiles are ~2mm smaller. Since the slot us the same 8mm it won't snug the 15 down properly. "F" is 15.9mm - the dimension is 15mm on the 1.5" profiles:



Probably the same on the RUWI profiles. Not impossible to knock off .9mm.

I'm mostly interested in the 20mm dog clamp gadgets.

RMW
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 03:23 PM by Richard/RMW »
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Offline Sean KS

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #133 on: February 26, 2019, 05:49 PM »
@Richard/RMW

https://8020.net/shop/4468.html A little different style but the same function. Made for 15.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #134 on: February 26, 2019, 07:40 PM »
@Cheese

In addition to Svar’s links take a look at JW Winco they are great source for all sorts of these widgets and things.

https://www.jwwinco.com/en-us/home

Ron

Could be fun (but time consuming) Easter Egg hunt since a search for RUWI at Winco returns 0 products.

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2019, 08:25 AM »
@Richard/RMW

https://8020.net/shop/4468.html A little different style but the same function. Made for 15.

Thanks @Sean KS - I think someone mentioned that profile by the inch earlier and I plumb forgot about it. I did check their eBay store where I get most of my stuff and it wasn't there, I'll have to order a couple feet of it from them and experiment.

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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #136 on: February 27, 2019, 08:29 AM »
@Cheese

In addition to Svar’s links take a look at JW Winco they are great source for all sorts of these widgets and things.

https://www.jwwinco.com/en-us/home

Ron

This is right up my alley...



[doh]

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #137 on: February 27, 2019, 09:00 AM »
Berkey System is another option for adjustable fittings. These are the top choice for camera rigging. Don’t know how prices compare.

Store.berkeysystem.com
« Last Edit: February 27, 2019, 01:42 PM by Michael Kellough »


Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #139 on: February 27, 2019, 01:17 PM »
I did check their eBay store where I get most of my stuff and it wasn't there,
It is there:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/80-20-Inc-T-Slot-Aluminum-Standard-Angle-Clamp-Block-15-Series-4468-N/371041587044?hash=item5663cd4f64:g:ueMAAOSwIQdZGxsa:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Saw that, but they also sell the extrusion by the inch for around $0.50/". Being cheap I figured I'd grab a couple of feet and then whack it up & bore my own holes. the raw extrusion isn't on the eBay store unless I somehow missed it.

RMW
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Offline rst

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2019, 07:45 PM »
I've contacted 8020 by messaging through the Ebay store to purchase material not listed.

Offline Cheese

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2019, 11:08 PM »
@Cheese

In addition to Svar’s links take a look at JW Winco they are great source for all sorts of these widgets and things.

https://www.jwwinco.com/en-us/home

Ron

Thanks Ron @rvieceli , for the info. I haven’t had the opportunity to check it out because I’m still shoveling snow.  [eek]  It was also my mom’s 95th birthday 🎂 so other priorities prevailed, as they should.  [smile]

Offline tdwilli1

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #142 on: March 03, 2019, 06:49 PM »
Here is what I've been working on the last week. Parts will arrive tomorrow. Am building two of these. Still need to add fold out wing extensions.



Offline Upcoaster

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #143 on: March 04, 2019, 11:28 PM »
Greetings from Washougal, Washington!

Firstly, I should confess that I don't own any Festool products.  I found my way to this most fascinating community by way of Pinterest!  (Crazy, right?).

We moved into our newly built house in April and our outbuilding was just completed last month. Within it, I'll have a dream space (24'x24') to create my wood shop.  I have a lot of work to do to erect some partition walls, install insulation and a lot of electrical work before I'll be able to un-mothball all of my wood shop stuff that's currently stored in a 20' land/sea container (my previous shop space) that sits at the other end of our property.

I've been sketching on some workbench ideas (getting a little ahead of myself) which lead me to Pinterest.  To my surprise, I found some aluminum extrusion-based workbench builds and many of them were credited as coming from this site! I was intrigued and just had to create me a login and introduce myself.

I had to box up my shop almost three years ago when I got re-married and moved. While I was cleaning out to move and hauling some stuff to a salvage place, they had a huge bench made from 8020 and I bought it for cheap, broke it down and stowed it. Even though I was supposed to be pairing down my possessions and cleaning out, I couldn't resist snapping up some of that material. 

Also, several years before that, I worked at an electronics manufacturing plant that closed down and I managed to procure a few retired benches and fixtures made from 8020 that I've used to create various things in my shop. Most of it will get dis-assembled when I un-pack it and re-purposed for shop v2.0!!

Hopefully y'all don't mind my lurking despite my lack of 'qualifications' (not exactly a card carrying Festool guy). 

To answer the original question at the top of this post, "What have YOU been doing with 8020 in your shop?" I thought I'd share a glimpse of my router table where I've incorporated 8020. This is my favorite shop-built workstation of all time.

Offline rst

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #144 on: March 05, 2019, 07:43 AM »
Welcome to the group and congratulations.  You're router station is great.  I must warn you however that this group is incredibly hard on a bank account. Under no circumstances buy one of Festool's sanders and use it with dust collection or you will be subjected to a life long addiction.

Offline tdwilli1

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #145 on: March 05, 2019, 09:54 AM »
Greetings from Washougal, Washington!

To answer the original question at the top of this post, "What have YOU been doing with 8020 in your shop?" I thought I'd share a glimpse of my router table where I've incorporated 8020. This is my favorite shop-built workstation of all time.

Welcome - I'm from Tualatin and just got done designing a similar router table with Linear Bearings! Will be attaching my Woodpeckers Router Fence to the bearings. Got the profiles ordered yesterday.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2019, 09:58 AM by tdwilli1 »

Offline Upcoaster

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #146 on: March 05, 2019, 11:11 PM »
Thanks for the Welcome, guys!!

David in Washougal

Offline Cheese

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #147 on: March 05, 2019, 11:37 PM »
Here’s just a shout-out on the 80/20 stuff. I placed another order for some 80/20 stuff today on both their web site and also on their eBay website. Interestingly enough the individual item pricing was comparable between both web sites but the shipping was almost $10 more on their eBay website.

This was also the case the last time I ordered about 3 weeks ago. Just a FWIW...

Offline tallgrass

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2019, 01:52 AM »
I have ordered from 80/20 and their ebay store and have noticed some interesting pricing differences. I have noticed quite a savings on the pre-cut from ebay in terms of the cost of the rail, but the shipping is different in how it scales. My last order which arrived today was for 15-30-24'. The ebay price was half price and the shipping was a little more. That was for 24 pieces. I am making rolling MFT tables.

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2019, 07:20 AM »
I gather all the eBay purchases into my cart and then use the Request Total option, shipping to the NJ shore has been surprisingly inexpensive. At times I'd buy 8' sticks and they'd box everything up and ship UPS. Tim the UPS guy gets cookies and a gift card every Christmas.

They've also added on stuff that wasn't on the eBay store, had forgotten about that until someone mentioned it on this thread.

RMW
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