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Offline bijeshj

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My version of the MFT - pics attached
« on: October 29, 2007, 11:08 PM »
Hi, I build this custom table using parts using extrusions from 8020 and a lift table from HF. Thanks to the inspiration from other members on this forum.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2007, 11:08 PM by bijeshj »

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 11:57 PM »
That's pretty cool. And I like how the lighting in your shop is reminiscent of the Bat cave.......
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 10:56 PM »
That's very handy. Is it primarily for finishing / constructing?
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Offline bijeshj

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2007, 09:50 AM »
Thanks, I primarily use it for construction. The unique lighting is due to a combination of my shop lights and my camera flash. :)

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Re: My version of the MFT - pics attached
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2007, 10:27 AM »
bijeshj,
This is interesting to me, as I have been on a quest of sorts in the past couple of years to figure out how to integrate the MFT into more of a central workbench area.  My shop is small, so I need to make full use of every foot I've got.  We have discussed the use of those hydraulic (is that the right term?) tables before, so I'm glad to see you've done it.

I've got a notebook full of plans I put together for expanded MFTs and ways to build a larger workbench surface with an MFT-like surface.  One of these days, I just have to go with one of them!

Thanks for showing us your setup.  Feel free to post other "action" shots from the bat cave!  When I first saw your photos, I thought perhaps you were down in your shop at 3:00 AM and the moonlight was streaming in.

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Re: My version of the MFT - pics attached
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2007, 12:17 PM »
Bijeshj,

I like your project, thanks for sharing.  I thought that I was ready to start building and collected a garage full of material - now I can't park the car and I am still collecting design ideas.

1) I notice that the dimensions of your table are similar to the MFT.  Why did you choose the 8020 extrusions over the Festool extrusions?

2) Can you give us more details about the lift?

3) If you were to do anything different, what would it be?  Don't mean to suggest that it isn't perfect as is, but I know that when I finally get around to building mine, there will be at least a couple of things that I might want to do differently.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2007, 12:39 PM »
Great idea!  I'm interested in as many details and pics as you are willing to post.

Offline bijeshj

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Re: My version of the MFT - pics attached
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2007, 09:30 PM »
Bijeshj,

I like your project, thanks for sharing.  I thought that I was ready to start building and collected a garage full of material - now I can't park the car and I am still collecting design ideas.

1) I notice that the dimensions of your table are similar to the MFT.  Why did you choose the 8020 extrusions over the Festool extrusions?
I used a standard 2'4' MDF panel from HD. I used the 8020 extrusions since it was way cheaper :) than the Festool version and I also felt that they were a more robust.
I cut the extrustions to the 2'4' dimensions which will help when it is time to replace the top.
I can mount either a 3/4" or 1/2" top. I am in the process of building a jig to route MFT type holes in the top.


2) Can you give us more details about the lift?
I purchased the lift from Harbor Freight when it was on sale for approx $90.00. I used the 500lb lift.


3) If you were to do anything different, what would it be?  Don't mean to suggest that it isn't perfect as is, but I know that when I finally get around to building mine, there will be at least a couple of things that I might want to do differently.
I am fairly happy with it so far but it is not fully complete yet. I am planning to add a 3/4" top, the brackets I fabricated to attach to my mft is adjustable. I am also planning on fabricating a rectangle box that will be mounted to the lift. The extrusions and top will then be mounted to the box. My plan is to mount a router plate similar to what John Lucas (I am a great fan of his site and work) did. The rectangle box will help me add in dust collection as well.
I am also planning to change the rotating casters to dual lock ones as well.
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Thanks for showing us your setup.  Feel free to post other "action" shots from the bat cave!  When I first saw your photos, I thought perhaps you were down in your shop at 3:00 AM and the moonlight was streaming in.

Matthew: It was fairly late but not the moon :). I will try to post some additional things that I built including project pics when I get a chance.


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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2007, 09:04 AM »
I just found the 80/20 website, I'm in LOVE!  :-*  Can I get this at a big box store!

Steve

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Re: My version of the MFT - pics attached
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2007, 07:46 PM »
darn, 80/20 is the ultimate wet dream fantasy for any grown up kid that played with Lego's as a kid. Good thing I don't have a garage to work in and even better that they don't have a nice convenient supplier near me or I would never get to deposit a paycheck ;-)
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Offline Ned

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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2007, 08:29 PM »
I just found the 80/20 website, I'm in LOVE!  :-*  Can I get this at a big box store!

Big box.  Nope.

Check out 80/20's surplus sales on eBay:  80/20 Garage Sale

I've used the inch-dimensioned extrusions.  Depending on how integrated your project is with the MFT, you might want to use their metric extrusions.


Bijeshj--

Love the hydraulic table.  I've wanted to do that for some time, and it looks like yours came out really well.

Ned
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 06:05 AM »
You guys should check out ITEM building systems. I'm pretty sure Festool gets their MFS components from them.
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Offline bijeshj

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2007, 09:40 AM »
Ned:
Thanks. Unfortunately, I have so busy at work that I haven't had a chance to make any changes yet.

Eli:
The ITEM building site seems really interesting. More ways to spend money.  :)

Bijesh

Offline Steveo48

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2007, 02:30 PM »
bijeshj,
This is interesting to me, as I have been on a quest of sorts in the past couple of years to figure out how to integrate the MFT into more of a central workbench area.  My shop is small, so I need to make full use of every foot I've got.  We have discussed the use of those hydraulic (is that the right term?) tables before, so I'm glad to see you've done it.

I've got a notebook full of plans I put together for expanded MFTs and ways to build a larger workbench surface with an MFT-like surface.  One of these days, I just have to go with one of them!

Thanks for showing us your setup.  Feel free to post other "action" shots from the bat cave!  When I first saw your photos, I thought perhaps you were down in your shop at 3:00 AM and the moonlight was streaming in.

Matt

Is this an appropriate time to suggest another forum, Custom MFT tables?  I'm curious how many people are out there doing this.

I've already spent a few hours (ok, more than a few) since Thursday looking up T slot framing and working up designs on sketchup for myself at home. 

Of course, I might be the only geek really biting on this.

Steve

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2007, 02:40 PM »
No, you're not. There are a couple of threads devoted to this subject, try searching 'Jumbo'. I'm sure everyone would visit another thread about MFT'S though...
« Last Edit: December 18, 2007, 08:58 AM by Eli »
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2007, 06:36 AM »
You guys should check out ITEM building systems. I'm pretty sure Festool gets their MFS components from them.

Eli,

I went and eyeballed a MFT at Rockler last night and the extrusion at the top of the MFT that supports/guides the guiderail system is not a typical T Slot extrusion.  Do you know if Item actually carries this profile.  I looked and couldn't fined it in the Item web site (not that it's not there, they have A LOT of profiles).

Steve

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2007, 09:03 AM »
Although they don't seem to publicly carry any of the exact profiles, there are a couple of them that would work fine. I'm using them for something else, If I was going to build a BF-MFT, I'd probably get the rails from Festool. I did find that the best way to sort through the ITEM stuff is via paper catalog, it's a bit more accessible. My opinion is for the money, it's less hassle and quicker to just buy another 1080 and some connectors. Much more versatile.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2007, 10:49 AM »
Steve as Eli posted, you can buy the Festool MFT Profiles, and build your own table.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2007, 05:38 PM »
Steve as Eli posted, you can buy the Festool MFT Profiles, and build your own table.

Yes, and pay an outrageous sum for two rails.  Thanks, but I'd rather not.

Part of the purpose of this discussion is working around what's available off the shelf and coming up with something better.  And even better if it's cheaper. Or free.  There's not much glory in bragging about your latest purchase, but you can really put it out there when you have designed and built a better mousetrap..... or MFT in this case. ;D

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2007, 06:45 PM »
While it is easier to purchase a 1080 or the 2 rails, the 8020 extrusions worked fine for me.

I used the 15 series and the clamps fit. Cost approx 80 for a 2'4' table.

Regards
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2007, 03:23 AM »
Steve as Eli posted, you can buy the Festool MFT Profiles, and build your own table.

Yes, and pay an outrageous sum for two rails.  Thanks, but I'd rather not.

Part of the purpose of this discussion is working around what's available off the shelf and coming up with something better.  And even better if it's cheaper. Or free.  There's not much glory in bragging about your latest purchase, but you can really put it out there when you have designed and built a better mousetrap..... or MFT in this case. ;D

Steve

Sorry, I was coming at it from a totally different perspective. If glory is what you are after, then it is certainly more brag-able to build your own huge table. I doubt the ITEM rails would have the same functionality without the clamp extrusions. As far as cheap, my experience has always been the cheaper way always ends up the most expensive way. AFA better, well if you can do better than the Festool whitecoats, you should definitely take pictures.

Extrusions - $172
Tops - $86 x 2 = $172
Having your huge MFT and being able to use your clamps with it, priceless
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2007, 06:20 AM »
Steve as Eli posted, you can buy the Festool MFT Profiles, and build your own table.

Yes, and pay an outrageous sum for two rails.  Thanks, but I'd rather not.

Part of the purpose of this discussion is working around what's available off the shelf and coming up with something better.  And even better if it's cheaper. Or free.  There's not much glory in bragging about your latest purchase, but you can really put it out there when you have designed and built a better mousetrap..... or MFT in this case. ;D

Steve

Sorry, I was coming at it from a totally different perspective. If glory is what you are after, then it is certainly more brag-able to build your own huge table. I doubt the ITEM rails would have the same functionality without the clamp extrusions. As far as cheap, my experience has always been the cheaper way always ends up the most expensive way. AFA better, well if you can do better than the Festool whitecoats, you should definitely take pictures.

Extrusions - $172
Tops - $86 x 2 = $172
Having your huge MFT and being able to use your clamps with it, priceless

You need to checkout Chris's custom MFT table on the Jumbo MFT of my own ! thread.  Most of the materials were scrounged AND it fits his needs really well, not a 1080 made for the masses.

Don't confuse bragging with pride in your craft.  Did you ever see the Tool Time episode with Bob Vila and the Hot Rod?  If you saw that, you understand what I'm getting at.   The resume of an old time craftsman was his tool chest.  If you walk jobsites that practice still holds.

I'll post PICs when I have it finished this summer. :D

Steve

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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2007, 07:30 AM »
I've seen Chris' table. It's pretty great. I haven't missed any of the discussions on Jumbo MFT's.

I thought we were talking about whether to buy Festool rails or ITEM rails. Chris didn't scrounge his rails, he's a dealer. Unless they were something a craftsman ordered and didn't pay for.  ;D

I wasn't at all trying to put a barrier in the way of you doing your own thing and I think it's great if you want to build a custom table. You'll have difficulty getting it to a jobsite to show anybody unless you build it like Eiji's. Since we're recommending tables for each other to go see, you should check that one out. It's on his TS75 thread.




PS- Bob Vila got canned from TOH for taking kickbacks is what I heard. Missed the Hot Rod episode.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2007, 10:16 AM »
...As far as cheap, my experience has always been the cheaper way always ends up the most expensive way. AFA better, well if you can do better than the Festool whitecoats, you should definitely take pictures.

Yes, yes!  Unfortunately, it's too much text to get on a bumper sticker.

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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2007, 06:45 PM »
An interesting discussion going on regarding the MFT extrusions and using clamps on the edge.  It can be seen at http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=2035.0

It makes the 80/20 or Item extrusions look even better.

Steve

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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2007, 11:42 PM »
How does it make them look better?
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 08:27 AM »
You guys should check out ITEM building systems. I'm pretty sure Festool gets their MFS components from them.

My brother developed and sells a $500K machine tool world wide and he's very famaliar with T slot aluminum.  He urged me to look local for the materials because of the dollars current weakness.

80/20 is about 2 1/2 hours away from where I live, 45 minutes from friends and free beer ;D.  The 80/20 garage sale is pretty easy too.

I also received a very nice hard bound catalog from Microtech Systems in NY AND an email AND a phone call from an engineer.  I'm not used to such service.

Steve, (currently in Deleware off the campus of UD)

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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 09:18 AM »
Ahhhhh. Garage sale. Good service. Free Beer. All those things make the choice you promote make more sense glasshoppa.

The local ITEM distributor where I am also has a free engineering/drafting service to make sure the product is used correctly. I'm taking advantage of it for an unrelated project.
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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 09:54 AM »
You guys should check out ITEM building systems. I'm pretty sure Festool gets their MFS components from them.

I'm not familiar with ITEM though I used to use Bosch mechanical elements. Both ITEM and Bosch are much more sophisticated and have a broader range than 80/20 but are too costly for my use now (in USA).

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 10:08 AM »
Yep, same idea.
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