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Offline RobBob

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #120 on: July 03, 2019, 12:21 PM »
Here's the list from Wow's first aid kit.

NOTE: I believe the contents of the list below was in a sys2 with an attic lid.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 12:26 PM by RobBob »

Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #121 on: July 03, 2019, 01:02 PM »
Thanks, I was hoping for something that could easily be ordered as a small number of items.  There was a refill kit mentioned recently but that seems to have been removed pending better suggestions.

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2019, 11:40 AM »
I just came across the Mfasco "make a kit" selector here.  It's a little overwhelming with options, but with some guidance you should be able to put together a very appropriate kit.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2019, 01:00 PM »
I just came across the Mfasco "make a kit" selector here.  It's a little overwhelming with options, but with some guidance you should be able to put together a very appropriate kit.

This looks good, you can choose every little piece you want in your kit, but I wouldn't know all that it would take to get to make up a well-rounded kit, the number of choices are overwhelming. I have an idea of many of the items I 'think' should be in there, but are they the best choice to cover the majority of the emergencies one is likely to encounter. I think I would need some input from a EMT or Nurse.

Undoubtedly there will be someone in the group who can make an informed decision as to what to include and what not.
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Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #124 on: July 05, 2019, 01:02 PM »
The site does allow you to save a kit configuration for later, but it would have been really fantastic if it allowed you to share a configuration with others.

Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #125 on: July 05, 2019, 01:05 PM »
I'm also interested in which of their options are easier to use if you're applying them to yourself instead of someone else doing it.

Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #126 on: July 05, 2019, 01:30 PM »
Here is what I just sent to their customer service email address:

On the Festool Owners Group there is a discussion going on about first aid kits for either individual hobbyist or small business woodworking shops.  There is also a vendor who has ordered a Festool style case for first aid supplies, but don't yet have a recommended supply kit for it.

Here is the container:

https://systainer.store/collections/first-aid-systainer/products/first-aid-systainer

Here is the discussion:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-sales-dealer-area/first-aid-systainer-58507/120/

What I'd love to get your input on and share with the group is a supply kit that would be appropriate for this use.  The guidelines would be:

   
  • Some are small business and some (me for example) are individual hobbyists, so being compliant with OSHA or other relevant standards is a must have for some, not a bad thing for all.
  • Since lots of us work alone or in small groups max, prefer options which are easier to apply on yourself.
  • No items which are for routine use - this kit isn't where you'd store gloves you're going to use for non-emergencies.
  • While maybe a bee sting type item would be good for group members who are doing on-site work, others of us will be putting this in a stationary shop and don't need outdoor survival items (space blankets and such).
  • Since we're talking about woodworking power tools there should be provisions for body parts encountering cutting tools (bleeding, amputations) with the above preference for self application.  Of course not all injuries would be that severe, could be minor cuts.
  • splinter care is also required, though for some of us this is so common it's not an emergency.

I think your build your own kit tool is great, but the choices there get overwhelming for those of us who have little real world experience (and hope we never do).  While the ability to save a custom configuration is great, even better would be one that could be shared and/or collaborated on.

Offline Alanbach

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #127 on: July 05, 2019, 04:15 PM »
My Sys-Aid should arrive tomorrow so I have been working on contents. Here is what I have so far. I should say that my main aim is for this kit to help with immediate aid for the most common (as well as the most serious) woodworking injuries. I am less concerned with minor routine (non woodworking related) needs.

Tourniquet
First aid shears / scissors
Splinter outs
Alcohol wipes
Gauze 4x4’s
Sterile exam gloves
4” ace bandage
3” grip wrap
Eye wash
Small inspection mirror
Penlight
Q tips
Benadryl
Neosporin
2x4” fabric bandaids
Butterfly wound closures
1x3” fabric bandaids
Clean unused zip loc bag stored inside another unused zip loc
Hydrogen peroxide
Rubbing alcohol
2 instant cold packs
Cloth tape
Betadine
Clotting agent
Rolled cotton
Rolled gauze
Advil, Aspirin, Tylenol

Once I test fit all of this into the systainer  I will make additions or deletions accordingly.

Have I forgotten anything important ?
« Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 11:28 AM by Alanbach »

Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2019, 10:24 PM »
Here is what I just sent to their customer service email address:


I got a useless email response from mfasco.

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #129 on: July 16, 2019, 08:24 PM »
Bummer! 

So far I've gotten along OK with the previously mentioned amazon first aid kit, though I'll admit I've been outside and on my bike and with the family more than in the shop.  However my kinds think the kit is great and like to pretend to be doctors/nurses.  I'm thinking I should make a kit that they can't touch so I know it is there should an emergency really occur!   [cool]


A quick update on stock.  On Wednesday (tomorrow, the 17th) I'll be assembling and final inspecting batch 2 and getting that ready to ship the preorders.  The batch hasn't sold out.  I'm going to have a few in stock.  If you are still looking to get a SYS-Aid, go ahead and order at Systainer.Store and your unit should ship this week. 

Offline Alanbach

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #130 on: July 17, 2019, 12:01 AM »
Ok, so I got mine and I love it! For me, I found that I had two choices. Either I could use the divider and keep things highly organized where you can instantly see everything that is there but in order to do that I was going to have to really cut down on the contents. OR I could take out the divider and get a lot more in there. I chose to remove the divider. I got everything I listed above and more in there as a result. Now I think that I am going to print out a list of contents and affix it to the top inside in order to help someone out in an emergency. I figure that is the least that I can do since that person might be helping ME in that emergency (god forbid). I will try to take a picture and post it soon.

Offline Alanbach

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #131 on: July 17, 2019, 12:36 AM »
Here it is! It’s about time that I did this. Thank you @Systainer.Store !

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2019, 05:43 AM »
Very nice looking @Alanbach!  Thank you for posting your picture. 

Offline Cheese

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #133 on: August 10, 2019, 12:05 PM »
I was recently in REI and was surprised at the amount and selection of the refill kits they sell. Could be another option to check out in person.

https://www.rei.com/c/first-aid-supplies?ir=category%3Afirst-aid&r=category%3Afirst-aid%7Cfirst-aid-supplies

And here are their kits that could be repackaged.

https://www.rei.com/c/first-aid-kits?ir=category%3Afirst-aid&r=category%3Afirst-aid%7Cfirst-aid-kits

Offline Bob D.

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #134 on: August 11, 2019, 09:45 AM »
Nice, thanks Cheese for those links.
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Offline sprior

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #135 on: September 02, 2019, 01:34 PM »
I've been suffering from alternating bouts of not having time to think about this and overthinking it (too many options and too much paranoia on hand).  I liked where Alanbach was going with his list - does he (or anyone else) have something similar with actually orderable links?

If the folks at the Systainer store had come up with a prepackaged supplies set I would have just bought it and been done with it.

My Sys-Aid should arrive tomorrow so I have been working on contents. Here is what I have so far. I should say that my main aim is for this kit to help with immediate aid for the most common (as well as the most serious) woodworking injuries. I am less concerned with minor routine (non woodworking related) needs.

Tourniquet
First aid shears / scissors
...
Advil, Aspirin, Tylenol

Once I test fit all of this into the systainer  I will make additions or deletions accordingly.

Have I forgotten anything important ?

Offline Systainer.Store

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #136 on: September 02, 2019, 02:11 PM »
Oh man - I'm sorry you are bouncing around in your decision.
For now, to keep options open, I've not been supplying the first aid items, though I see how it could cause paralys

I'd recommend just picking a refill kit out online and going for it.  Just do it.  Iterate from there.  Be sure bases are covered and each month take a moment to review what worked and what didn't and then just iterate.  My downfall is trying to get things perfect the first time, and I've had to work hard at doing a first draft of something and then revise from there.

Offline Alanbach

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Re: First Aid Systainer
« Reply #137 on: September 02, 2019, 11:46 PM »
@sprior - Like you, I obsessed about this for a few days and then I went to CVS and bought what I could find that I was satisfied with. I was able to get most of what I wanted. Then I went to Amazon to order the Tourniquets (one that could be put on with one hand), the Splinter Outs, a penlight and some decent quality bottles for the alchohol and hydrogen peroxide (since I could not find small bottles). The touniquets came with some small metal pill containers so I labeled those for Tylenol, Advil and aspirin. Then I put a small label on the outside of the systainer with the date I filled it. Every year I will have to replace the medicines with expiration dates.