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Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« on: July 01, 2019, 11:50 AM »
Just a friendly heads up. If you want a RAS 115 sander or Sysport, get them now. Festool USA has announced these are now discontinued.

Also, the HSK sanding blocks are now discontinued.

All discontinued products are available while supplies last.

This may or may not affect other countries, check with your local dealer.

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« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 12:44 PM by Shane Holland »
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 12:49 PM »
Lol figures - was going to email Doug today about the RAS. Looks like that shot up on my short list now!

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2019, 01:03 PM »
Huh?  The RAS is the bomb, a secret weapon in the Festool arsenal.  Great for dealing with epoxy, stripping, and unconventional tasks like shaping/sculpting.  Maybe it's a low sales issue?

On the bright side, I'm looking forward to getting some discounted RAS paper.  That stuff lasts forever, so one spare box of each grit will almost certainly constitute a lifetime supply.

EDIT: Hey @Festool USA .  How about adding a new tool for every discontinued tool?  Updated CT's don't count. 
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2019, 01:04 PM »
On the bright side, I'm looking forward to getting some discounted RAS paper.  That stuff lasts forever, so one spare box of each grit will almost certainly constitute a lifetime supply.

@ear3, Festool USA has not discontinued the abrasives for the RAS 115. It's customary to support a discontinued tool with accessories and consumables.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2019, 01:28 PM »
Is this sanding block being discontinued also - Festool 496962 Hand Sanding Block 80mm X 130mm?
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 01:47 PM »
Is this sanding block being discontinued also - Festool 496962 Hand Sanding Block 80mm X 130mm?

@grbmds no mention of this product so presumably it's staying.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 12:25 AM »
Bummer...this is an awesome tool and one of my favorites. I suppose it is inevitable.  :(

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 01:08 AM »
Bummer...this is an awesome tool and one of my favorites. I suppose it is inevitable.  :(

@ScotF ,I don’t see why it’s inevitable, if it’s a solid tool...it’s a solid solution...think shovel, not a particularly sexy item but after 2000 years they’ve failed to come up with an alternative, unless it’s hydraulically driven.

I just purchased the last RAS from the local Woodcraft today... so I’m good to go.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 01:32 AM »
Bummer...this is an awesome tool and one of my favorites. I suppose it is inevitable.  :(

@ScotF ,I don’t see why it’s inevitable, if it’s a solid tool...it’s a solid solution...think shovel, not a particularly sexy item but after 2000 years they’ve failed to come up with an alternative, unless it’s hydraulically driven.

I just purchased the last RAS from the local Woodcraft today... so I’m good to go.

Since it was discontinued in Europe earlier. Wish it were not the case. might buy a spare...

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 04:55 AM »
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 01:33 PM »
When I tried to go to the Festool USA site to find out more about the RAS 115 I get a server error. It's like they pulled the page already and no more information is on the site.

Well, let's see what the Festool UK site has. Oh, wait, they have a promotion that will get you £100 back. Sweet, where's our (US) promotion, and everyone else for that matter. https://www.festool.co.uk/campaigns/cashback

Thanks Shane for posting about this. I'll be getting an order in with you in a few minutes, just wanted to see if there was a kit that came with some accessories I might want/need. Dumb question you always _need_ that stuff.  [eek]
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2019, 12:50 AM »
Just a thought...maybe the RAS wasn’t the juggernaut we all assumed it was.

I recently purchased the last RAS from the local Woodcraft and the build date was December 2016.  [eek]    [eek]    [eek]

Tough to keep the lights on with that rate of turn-over.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2019, 06:38 AM »
When I got my RAS 115 a few years ago here in Australia it was being discontinued. It’s one of my favourite Festool tools that I own, I’ve used it for probably 20 plus hours over the past few weeks doing a refinishing job and it’s brilliant. The abrasives are 30% off at the moment so I might stock up.

What’s the go long term though? I know the US is different, but how long do they typically stock abrasives for a discontinued tool?

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2019, 08:05 AM »
What’s the go long term though? I know the US is different, but how long do they typically stock abrasives for a discontinued tool?

This is one tool where using Festool abrasives isn't necessary because of a hole pattern. Any 5" abrasive will do. Festool's policy on spare parts for a discontinued tool is 10 years, but that doesn't include consumables like abrasives.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2019, 12:12 PM »
I use my RAS 115 more than any other tool except drills. As a cabinet installer, it works wonders for all the scribing I have to do. I might have to grab another just to have a back up.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2019, 04:36 PM »
I don’t have an immediate use for an RAS but since I don’t think there is anything really like it out there on the market I am considering picking one up as an investment in the future. It is probably silly as I am a hobbyist, my home is stucco, I already own an RO 125 but yet I still struggle with this decision. Please help me out with some opinions from FOG nation.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2019, 05:01 PM »
Perhaps it's being discontinued because a new and improved model is on it's way?

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2019, 05:18 PM »
I've never even seen the RAS 115 before! Not available in 220v/240v though!?  Just watched a video on it. I'd really like one!
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2019, 06:58 PM »
I'm not really concerned about sandpaper, but what about backing pads. Are they considered consumables if not how long will they be available. Would really suck to buy the sander and need a pad a year later and find out there not available.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2019, 07:47 PM »
I'm not really concerned about sandpaper, but what about backing pads. Are they considered consumables if not how long will they be available. Would really suck to buy the sander and need a pad a year later and find out there not available.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2019, 12:07 AM »
When I closed my business I sold a lot of tools.  One of the few that I regret selling is the RAS.  I’m working on a project now with a friend and could use a RAS !  Too bad they are on the way out. If Shane reports that the pads will still be available I would track down one that’s still for sale.

For the poster above who is on the fence:  the RAS is a fantastic tool for grinding away material quickly. We used it for scribing trim and cabinets,  fitting counters into place, roughing up the edge of stone, and many other uses. Dust collection is decent considering how much material it removes.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2019, 12:23 AM »
So was the RAS just an angle grinder with dust collection?

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2019, 12:59 AM »
A slow-speed orbital sander - a real gem - great for sculpting too. I would buy one before they are gone if you have any interest in this type of work.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2019, 05:47 AM »
I'm not really concerned about sandpaper, but what about backing pads. Are they considered consumables if not how long will they be available. Would really suck to buy the sander and need a pad a year later and find out there not available.

I just received my RAS from ToolNut yesterday, went looking this morning for accessories and the RAS isn't even in the list anymore. I'm gonna be ticked if I just bought a tool that they drop all the accessories/wear parts immediately and leave me(us) hanging with a tool of limited functionality (as in no accessories). Why don't those accessories remain available, at least until they sell out on current inventory. If I buy a RAS today and decide I need a different pad next month (or in this case the next day) I am SOL it seems. I might find some inventory sitting on the shelf at a local retail store (of which the closest for me is 35 miles away), but other than that it appears I can't even research what is available on the Festool website.

The RAS 115 is still listed in the comparison chart of the various Festool sanders [ https://www.festoolusa.com/power-tools/sanders#Comparison ], maybe that is an oversight on the part of the web design team and it should have been removed. But when you go to the accessories page nothing for the RAS 115 is listed at all [https://www.festoolusa.com/power-tools/sanders/accessories ].
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2019, 07:18 AM »
@Bob D.  They are still listed on the website.  Just hard to find.  Link to RAS pads

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2019, 07:41 AM »
Thanks Peter. Found what I was looking for thanks to you.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2019, 07:58 AM »
Regarding the RAS:  If you are on the fence - get one.  I reached out and have been told that there is not a direct replacement in the works.  Solid tool but lack of demand across the world is the reason.  (Sidenote:  Way back in 2009 during a visit to Festool a discussion was held with attendees and we were told that Germany wanted to know how we used our MFT's and RAS.  The sales numbers for those were significantly higher here in the US than in the rest of the world.  Also, while visiting the Festool connect event held in Lebanon back in 2017 there were pallet upon pallet upon pallet of RAS in the warehouse - and that is a whole lot of RAS based on the fact that they come in a Sys - 1 I believe.  That will account of the older production dates on the tools.)

I have reached out for info on the backing pads and when and if I hear something back I will edit this post.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2019, 08:51 AM »
Peter,
Thanks for the additional context and for reaching out on the backing pads.


I have reached out for info on the backing pads and when and if I hear something back I will edit this post.

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2019, 08:52 AM »
1. I reached out and have been told that there is not a direct replacement in the works.  Solid tool but lack of demand across the world is the reason. 

2. Also, while visiting the Festool connect event held in Lebanon back in 2017 there were pallet upon pallet upon pallet of RAS in the warehouse - and that is a whole lot of RAS based on the fact that they come in a Sys - 1 I believe.  That will account of the older production dates on the tools.)

1. Thanks for the post Peter...that's kind of what I thought and also what I was hoping for.  [big grin]  Maybe Festool thinks their new AGC 18 will kind of fill the void?

2. My new RAS was probably in that pallet load of tools.   [scratch chin]  [cool]   Sys 1 it is.


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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2019, 09:45 AM »
I can’t even remember how many years ago I bought mine.  It was honestly the only Festool that I have bought that I really anticipated trying and possibly returning.

My wife laughed.  I have used mine for stripping paints and stains off of decks, scribing trim, and just grinding away wood.  Yes, I need to order new backing pads due to age, but I sure am glad I bought it.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2019, 10:44 AM »
Regarding the RAS:  If you are on the fence - get one.  I reached out and have been told that there is not a direct replacement in the works.  Solid tool but lack of demand across the world is the reason.  (Sidenote:  Way back in 2009 during a visit to Festool a discussion was held with attendees and we were told that Germany wanted to know how we used our MFT's and RAS.  The sales numbers for those were significantly higher here in the US than in the rest of the world.  Also, while visiting the Festool connect event held in Lebanon back in 2017 there were pallet upon pallet upon pallet of RAS in the warehouse - and that is a whole lot of RAS based on the fact that they come in a Sys - 1 I believe.  That will account of the older production dates on the tools.)

I have reached out for info on the backing pads and when and if I hear something back I will edit this post.

Peter
  Thanks Peter & Shane hopefully we'll hear something soon. The availability of the pads would be my only reason for me not buying one. 

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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 08:52 AM »
@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2019, 11:12 AM »
@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
  Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... [wink]]
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2019, 01:12 PM »
Well, I don't know about 5 years, the info that came with my RAS (just purchased last week) says 10 years for parts availability. I would take it that accessories are treated as parts and therefore available for 10 years after production stops. I'm guessing that June 2019 is being marked as the end of production/sales so the 10 year clock has started tricking.
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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2019, 01:44 PM »
Yeah, I'll probably just buy a couple of pads now to have in my back pocket.  The velcro on mind is melted around the outer rim, though so far this hasn't really affected performance.
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@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
  Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... [wink]]
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2019, 01:47 PM »
So I reached out to Festool on this topic and the response was...

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.
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« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2019, 03:25 PM »
Yeah, I'll probably just buy a couple of pads now to have in my back pocket.  The velcro on mind is melted around the outer rim, though so far this hasn't really affected performance.
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@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
  Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... [wink]]
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2019, 04:45 PM »
as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... [wink]]

Even if Festool won't sell them anymore you should not have to worry, they are readily available here in Europe as it's a standard and there are plenty of European tool websites who will ship to north America.

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« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2019, 08:48 PM »
So I reached out to Festool on this topic and the response was...

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.

That's good to know, thanks Shane.
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« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2019, 11:52 PM »
I’m also interested to know why the sysports are being discontinued? Maybe because the new systainers are coming out with different sizes etc, they’ll release a newer version?

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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2019, 12:00 AM »
I’m also interested to know why the sysports are being discontinued? Maybe because the new systainers are coming out with different sizes etc, they’ll release a newer version?

Festool rarely comments on these types of topics. I don't think we'll see replacements but I could be wrong. I think the SYS-AZ drawers are the replacement.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2019, 06:22 AM »
Makes sense thanks Shane.

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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2019, 08:12 PM »
Ok, I guess that I just hopped off the fence. I glanced at the Recon site just now and low and behold an RAS 115! Thanks for the help guys!

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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2019, 08:18 PM »
Ok, I guess that I just hopped off the fence. I glanced at the Recon site just now and low and behold an RAS 115! Thanks for the help guys!

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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2019, 08:48 PM »
I know! I’m sorry @Shane Holland . Don’t worry, I’ll buy all of my consumables from you.

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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2019, 11:36 AM »
Save $105 instantly on the RAS 115 Sander at the Tool Nut, while supplies last!

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2019, 01:54 PM »
We sold out quickly of the RAS 115, but I just confirmed we have more that will be arriving on Monday or Tuesday. If you visited our website and couldn't order because it was out of stock, I've added inventory back to the site so you can now order it.

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2019, 03:47 PM »
That is a killer price - just put in my order - this is a critical tool for me and would hate to be without one if something happens to my original.

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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2019, 04:21 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2019, 04:25 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

@Svar,

The Bosch 1250DEVS and Makita BO6500J are basically the same as the Rotex RO 150 in functionality.

We have both in stock, ready to ship.
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« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2019, 04:48 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

It’s about disc speed, 600 rpm for the Rotex & 1500 rpm for the RAS.

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« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2019, 05:22 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

It’s about disc speed, 600 rpm for the Rotex & 1500 rpm for the RAS.

You mean 3800 for the RAS.  [tongue]

It's a quite a difference. With the Rotex you still have to work hard to remove the paint. With the RAS, you just pet the paint and it's gone. If it were any faster, you'd take the wood along with it.

I still have my old RAS, darn fine sander but I'm sad because I can hardly use it anymore. People take too good care of their homes, I get no jobs anymore where the paint is so bad I have to use my RAS. It's a disgrace.  [mad]

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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2019, 10:31 AM »
We sold out quickly of the RAS 115, but I just confirmed we have more that will be arriving on Monday or Tuesday. If you visited our website and couldn't order because it was out of stock, I've added inventory back to the site so you can now order it.

Sorry for the temporary out-of-stock message.

Any more stock available? Website says out of stock.

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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2019, 10:43 AM »
Any more stock available? Website says out of stock.

@safety1st, I had just updated the site. We have more on order that should be available next week. If you order now with a credit card, you will not be charged until it ships. Paypal orders are charged when the order is placed.
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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2019, 11:19 AM »
You mean 3800 for the RAS.  [tongue]

It's a quite a difference. With the Rotex you still have to work hard to remove the paint. With the RAS, you just pet the paint and it's gone. If it were any faster, you'd take the wood along with it.

I still have my old RAS, darn fine sander but I'm sad because I can hardly use it anymore. People take too good care of their homes, I get no jobs anymore where the paint is so bad I have to use my RAS. It's a disgrace.  [mad]

Ya you're right Alex... [doh]  the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.


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« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2019, 11:34 AM »
... the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.
Two things with that catalog:
"idle engine speed" - I'd rather be interested in disk speed
"Click to compare ..." at the top of the page. This is a paper catalog!

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« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2019, 11:55 AM »
... the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.
Two things with that catalog:
"idle engine speed" - I'd rather be interested in disk speed
"Click to compare ..." at the top of the page. This is a paper catalog!

Wonder what the mpg rating is for those “engines”.
At least they didn’t use the same photo for both sanders.

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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2019, 08:22 PM »
Highland woodworking has them for $250 right now in stock. 

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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2019, 08:55 PM »
Highland woodworking has them for $250 right now in stock.

[crying]

Highland is also not on the FOG giving you a heads up about this deal... Just sayin'. We really appreciate everyone who chooses Tool Nut as their Festool dealer of choice.

We have a better price at $225. Despite what our website currently says, we do have a few units on hand ready to ship tomorrow.
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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2019, 09:52 PM »
Just thought I would be helpful to other members. Members post all the time about deals at other companies that aren't on here not sure why it would mater either way.  Nice to have options. 

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« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2019, 04:00 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.

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« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2019, 08:54 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?

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« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2019, 10:00 AM »
I ordered the RAS on ToolNut but all the RAS paper was out of stock. Any chance you have more coming in soon. While I am asking, do folks have any RAS paper recommendations?


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« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2019, 10:05 AM »
I ordered the RAS on ToolNut but all the RAS paper was out of stock. Any chance you have more coming in soon. While I am asking, do folks have any RAS paper recommendations?

@JimReed, yes, we have more abrasives on the way. We didn't anticipate the increased demand for sandpaper, which was our mistake. We should have a lot of it in stock around end of the week.

Saphir is great for stripping finishes, Rubin is best for bare wood shaping and sanding.
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« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2019, 01:07 PM »
Awesome, I will watch for the paper to be back in stock and thanks for the advice.

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« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2019, 09:23 PM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?
Yeah I thought so also guess not. This is why I don't post much on here and will not post again about this subject. People seem to get upset about the stupidest things.     

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« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2019, 10:54 PM »
Awesome, I will watch for the paper to be back in stock and thanks for the advice.

Jim

I actually think saphir is the best for sculpting. Stuff lasts forever. 24 grit will really hog wood. Light touches is key with this sander. You will melt the hook &loop if you are aggressive. You will get the hang of using it after some practice.

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« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2019, 12:06 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.

I agree, Shane has done way more to announce tool issues and tools that have been obsoleted than Festool corporate has ever done on this site. We hang around listening for the latest news on Festool tools and it's not Festool corporate that makes the announcements, but it's a third party that ALWAYS makes the announcements...what's with that? That actually obsoletes the need for a real Festool person to be actively engaged on the forum   

Foolish me...but I think that the information that Shane gives out freely and the time he spends posting on the forum, needs to be rewarded.

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« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2019, 12:12 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?

   It is in general an open forum.  As long as you are not another dealer you can post other dealer info in a dealers topic. But it may not be viewed as being particularly good form, regardless of who the dealer is.
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Yeah I thought so also guess not. This is why I don't post much on here and will not post again about this subject. People seem to get upset about the stupidest things.     

Hmm,  people seem to get upset about the stupidest things.

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« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2019, 12:15 AM »
When he worked for McFeely’s, Shane kept us informed (and more).
When he worked for Festool Shane kept us informed.
Now he works for ToolNut and is responsible for promoting several brands and he still breaks the news about Festool.

Three cheers for Shane!

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« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2019, 09:53 AM »
I didn't intend to cause issues with my comment.

I work hard to support my family and the families of my friends (aka colleagues) at Tool Nut. I've logged thousands of hours on this forum over the past 15 years. When I post something like this, I do so hoping that because we are bringing you the information, you would consider ordering from us. I'm not naive, I know that some of you have your go-to dealer of choice and will order from them.

It's a just a little bit of a kick in the nuggets when there's a link promoting another dealer in a thread that I start.

Apologies for causing the reaction with my prior comment.

Now... back to talking about tools.  [smile]
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« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2019, 01:07 PM »
   
 I'm no longer a dealer, so I figured it would be ok to post here - not that Shane needs me to defend him, but  I agree with Cheese, Seth, Michael and Shane.

 Shane has always gone above and beyond. This is an open forum, but posting in a dealer's thread about another's dealer's sale/promotion simply is discourteous and in bad taste. Something akin to walking into a Pep Boys brick and mortar and putting up an Autozone flyer on the wall, where you would be escorted to the door along with the flyers, instead of being mildly and politely chastised on a public forum
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« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2019, 01:32 PM »
Open forum, you can say what you want, others can say what they want. Nobody "owns" a thread.

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« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2019, 02:47 PM »
Open forum, you can say what you want, others can say what they want. Nobody "owns" a thread.

+1

(FYI - I have spent many of my tool budget $'s at ToolNut and with Bob. When I saw a post on another forum that the RAS was on clearance at Highland first thing I did was go to ToolNut to buy it. But, guess what, it was around $100 more to my door from ToolNut. Is there a reason it was less expensive at Highland first?)

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« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2019, 02:58 PM »
Is there a reason it was less expensive at Highland first?

@Mike Goetzke, always appreciate your business, sir.

Edit: Found the thread you referenced. It looks we originally had a higher price on that day (8/6).

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« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2019, 03:20 PM »
@Shane Holland

Looks like your RAS paper is back in stock but sanding pads seem to be back ordered - when do you expect to get them in?

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« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2019, 08:23 PM »
Bob And Shane rocks. Simply put. Both guys go out of their way to talk and promote Festool and their dealerships. Bob enjoy your retirement.
Shane has always been their answering questions and helping members out.
And that’s way I have purchase 80% of my tools from them.
I just put as a lot of boxes. 😀
Just ordered two more RAS. Additional one for me and one for my painter.

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« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2019, 08:50 PM »
@Mike Goetzke, we have admittedly been struggling with the spike in demand for the RAS and its accessories. There are yet more pads on order and they will be in stock middle of next week or sooner. I would suggest anyone that's ordering from us go ahead and place your order to lock in inventory for your order. We do not charge your credit card until the product ships and you can cancel anytime. Apologies for the abnormal stock outs on our end.

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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2019, 09:55 PM »
Just ordered two more RAS. Additional one for me and one for my painter.

Rick, I could become a painter.   [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2019, 07:26 AM »
O Cheese yes you can!😀

No, the painter has his own company and a good friend.
I’m just helping him out on thr order part.
But then again I need have a little work for him....
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« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2019, 05:05 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

@Svar,

The Bosch 1250DEVS and Makita BO6500J are basically the same as the Rotex RO 150 in functionality.

We have both in stock, ready to ship.

@Svar -- Just announced today, new Bosch 5" and 6" multi-mode sanders coming next month.
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« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2019, 05:15 PM »
@Svar -- Just announced today, new Bosch 5" and 6" multi-mode sanders coming next month.
Looks great. Any guinea pigs... I mean, early adopters out there?  [popcorn]

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« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2019, 05:22 PM »
This new sander is the third generation of Bosch RO sanders. I have both the previous generations of Bosch multi-mode 6” sanders. My sample of the first gen suffered some electronic speed control issue that made it run slow so I bought the next gen. I’ve never bought a 6” Festool sander because the Bosch sander works fine. I actually think the longer body on the Bosch makes it easier to handle than the Festool 150 RO sander.

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« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2019, 04:15 PM »
Looks like this is temporarily out of stock again...

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« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2019, 04:23 PM »
Looks like this is temporarily out of stock again...

@ScotF, yes, they’re going fast but more on the way. To reiterate. If you order with a credit card, we do not bill until it ships and it will reserve part of our next shipment for your order. We should have more by middle or end of the week.
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2019, 04:36 PM »
 [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

The one I ordered from you last weekend is supposed to be delivered on Monday...thanks for offering these at such a great deal!!

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« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2019, 09:56 AM »
@Shane Holland , the out of stock messages don't allow you to add the item to cart.  I'm not sure whether it's really OOS this time or you just need to work some magic on the back end so an order can be placed? 
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« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2019, 10:07 AM »
@Shane Holland , the out of stock messages don't allow you to add the item to cart.  I'm not sure whether it's really OOS this time or you just need to work some magic on the back end so an order can be placed?

@RKA

We have backorders blocked on this item to make sure we don't sell more than we have or can get. Additionally, I am manually managing the inventory to some extent rather than it being synced with our warehouse system.

We have units in stock ready-to-ship right now. More on the way. Sorry for the bad inventory on the website.
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« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2019, 11:20 AM »
Does RAS being discontinued mean that the sandpaper and accessories will be discontinued as well?
If so what are the options for the long term?

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« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2019, 11:22 AM »
Does RAS being discontinued mean that the sandpaper and accessories will be discontinued as well?
If so what are the options for the long term?

@safety1st, this was mentioned earlier in the thread. Festool USA stated the following:

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.

If they do discontinue abrasives at some point in the future, I see no reason why you couldn't use a generic 5" abrasive since there are no holes for dust extraction.
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« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2019, 03:24 PM »
thanks for the response, sorry i missed this info from earlier.
hoping Festool will have abrasives available for a long time for the RAS.

just a question on using generic 5" abrasives.
if a 5" abrasive is used won't it block the dust collection as the paper will be 1/4" proud all around.


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« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2019, 03:47 PM »
if a 5" abrasive is used won't it block the dust collection as the paper will be 1/4" proud all around.

Use your scissors.

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« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2019, 03:48 PM »
just a question on using generic 5" abrasives.
if a 5" abrasive is used won't it block the dust collection as the paper will be 1/4" proud all around.

@safety1st, so in testing this, the 5" isn't going to work well without trimming it down, like Alex suggested.
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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2019, 03:56 PM »
I do it all the time, trimming down sandpaper. Most papers stick out a tiny bit, inconsequential most of the time, but if you don't want to marr an adjoining surface it is necessary to trim it down to match the pad exactly. Oh, and pads wear on the side, they get smaller than original very quickly.

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« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2019, 07:42 PM »
Thanks Shane and the toolnut gang. I received the twins today.
I like and thank you for your new sticker.
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« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2019, 09:56 PM »
Maybe with this renewed interest in the RAS, Festool will restablish the RAS as a viable tool to support for the future...then again...maybe not.  [sad] [sad] [sad]

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« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2019, 08:34 AM »
Well, I just received one from toolnut who got “fresh” stock from Festool.  It had a manufacture date of 2/17 if I recall.  I don’t think Festool will be eager to replace it with anything that sits in the warehouse for 2.5 years.  For my own part, I had been thinking about getting one for a while, I had just been waiting for the next project I needed to scribe, cope or strip paint.  After 1.5 years of sitting on the fence, the discontinuation of the tool pushed me over the edge.
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« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2019, 09:02 AM »
I am going to venture a guess that the RAS was slated to be discontinued quite a while ago but the popularity of it at times in North America kept it just above the threshold.  I had the opportunity to visit Festool USA late in 2017 and they had just received a huge shipment of pallet upon pallet upon pallet of RAS, so that might explain the manufacture date.

Great tool.  Sorry to see it go, but I just purchased new backing pads and am ready once again to sand away aggressively.

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« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2019, 09:39 AM »
Well, I just received one from toolnut who got “fresh” stock from Festool.  It had a manufacture date of 2/17 if I recall.  I don’t think Festool will be eager to replace it with anything that sits in the warehouse for 2.5 years.  For my own part, I had been thinking about getting one for a while, I had just been waiting for the next project I needed to scribe, cope or strip paint.  After 1.5 years of sitting on the fence, the discontinuation of the tool pushed me over the edge.

Mine, purchased in July, was manufactured in 2016.  [eek]

That's exactly my situation, between the Rotex's, the other Festool sanders and a couple of Milwaukee RA grinders, I never really needed the RAS until it was discontinued. I've already used it to strip a neighbor's picnic table that had multiple coats of latex, oil based paint and what appeared to be a clear poly coating.

Great tool...it works well, happy I made the purchase.

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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2019, 10:00 AM »
Just a reminder:  register your RAS and save your receipt.  In the absence of doing this the date of manufacture might come into play in the event of an issue. 

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« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2019, 10:25 AM »
Just a reminder:  register your RAS and save your receipt.  In the absence of doing this the date of manufacture might come into play in the event of an issue. 


Thanks for that Peter...I just registered my RAS.  [smile]

https://www.festoolusa.com/service/service-all-inclusive/registration

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« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2019, 10:52 AM »
Just a quick comment on the manufacture date, our inventory is all newly arrived from Festool USA. The tools are in new unused condition. This tool’s design has remained unchanged so you’re not getting old technology. But I do understand some folks may not want a tool manufactured years ago.

Great tip from Peter, thanks buddy.

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« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2019, 11:27 AM »
Sorry Shane, didn’t mean to suggest any dissatisfaction about the manufacture date, it’s as new as can be. Just meant to offer some indication about why it may have been discontinued.

And thanks for that reminder Peter!  I had given up when festool revamped their website, but in this case, I better register it!  :)

And just a suggestion, if you’ve been thinking about a new dust extractor, throw it into the order with your discounted RAS and get the 10% discount on that too. Once again it didn’t take much to push me off the fence (to be fair, it’s a very very narrow fence!).  I love the remote activation!
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« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2019, 09:00 PM »
So like at least one other here, I've been sitting on this one for a long time but never realized it was good for scribing. Does it perform well with one hand on edge stock? I always try hard to use two hands but sometimes it aint happening. also I see the listing at Toolnut has in the specs sticky backing pads. Am I misreading that? I have a handful of festool sanders (all from toolnut) and a literal mountain of sandpaper of various sizes but its all H&L. If the pads are available (in H&L) I might have to spring for this  tomorrow.

p.s. Whoops, guess i never realized the Hook and loop was called stickfix! some days....
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« Reply #104 on: September 01, 2019, 09:19 PM »
@awshucks it looks like you already deciphered Festool’s Stickfix is just H&L.  [blink]
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« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2019, 09:42 PM »
I got on the RAS bandwagon ,just say it’s discontinued and stand back. Funny thing is, I just did a deck strip/redo and could have used it. I used my RO-125 ,oh well next time.
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« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2019, 09:47 PM »
So like at least one other here, I've been sitting on this one for a long time but never realized it was good for scribing. Does it perform well with one hand on edge stock? I always try hard to use two hands but sometimes it aint happening. also I see the listing at Toolnut has in the specs sticky backing pads. Am I misreading that? I have a handful of festool sanders (all from toolnut) and a literal mountain of sandpaper of various sizes but its all H&L. If the pads are available (in H&L) I might have to spring for this  tomorrow.

Ya, I used the RAS today for scribing my neighbor's countertop, while also helping him remove & clean the carbs on his 1974 Norton. He also needed to remove some more junk from some repainted wooden surfaces in-house that are circa 1934. Overall it's a really sweet tool...the Norton not so much.

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« Reply #107 on: September 03, 2019, 04:44 PM »
sorry if this was already covered in the forums somewhere, but can somebody tell me what abrasives are included with the tool?

thanks in advance!

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« Reply #108 on: September 03, 2019, 05:33 PM »
@safety1st, you generally will get one sheet of paper with a sander. The series and grit can vary.
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« Reply #109 on: September 03, 2019, 05:44 PM »
sorry if this was already covered in the forums somewhere, but can somebody tell me what abrasives are included with the tool?
thanks in advance!
@safety1st With the tool I got 8: 1 vlie, 1 unlabeled (about 60 by the looks of it), and 2 of each Rubin 40, 80, 120.
And that was from ToolNut I might add.  [poke]
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« Reply #110 on: September 03, 2019, 05:55 PM »
Ha, fair enough Svar. Festool used to include sample packs like that. Must be that these that were manufactured at earlier dates had the sample packs.
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« Reply #111 on: September 03, 2019, 06:07 PM »
Ha, fair enough Svar. Festool used to include sample packs like that. Must be that these that were manufactured at earlier dates had the sample packs.
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« Reply #112 on: September 03, 2019, 09:14 PM »
@safety1st I got the same as Svar in my order from Toolnut last week.  I wasn’t expecting anything, so that was a nice bonus.  That mystery sheet might be cristal?  It’s a more rigid material around 60 grit as he stated.

Edit - that mystery sheet is saphir 80 grit.  For some reason that grit isn't labeled on the back, but comparing it to a new sheet of saphir from the box, that's it!  Seems more course than a comparable Rubin.
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« Reply #113 on: September 03, 2019, 11:46 PM »
Thanks guys!

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« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2019, 03:59 PM »
How long will these continue to be sold? I have a job coming up in late October that will be needing this.

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« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2019, 08:48 PM »
How long will these continue to be sold? I have a job coming up in late October that will be needing this.

Until they’re all sold. Place your bets...

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« Reply #116 on: September 04, 2019, 09:06 PM »
Get it now.  They just dropped the price to $215, they don’t want them sitting on their shelves until late October!   [tongue]
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« Reply #117 on: September 04, 2019, 09:24 PM »
How long will these continue to be sold? I have a job coming up in late October that will be needing this.

Once these were announced as discontinued, I paid full list to purchase mine and I’m certainly not regretful for that decision. At $215 these are essentially free. The cost of the papers and pads will easily become more expensive than the cost of the tool.

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« Reply #118 on: September 05, 2019, 12:31 AM »
As mentioned, these are while supplies last. No guarantees of availability or how long we will be able to continue to have them in stock.
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« Reply #119 on: September 12, 2019, 08:08 PM »
Received the RAS yesterday, and finally got to take a look today. I noticed in the tool manual that they caution about air-borne sparks when grinding metal and that  a spark trap should be used. One of the intended uses I have for this beast is heavy sanding of problem spots in subfloors, framing etc that I can grind down (I'm kinda hoping this thing is a quasi grinder with awesome dust collection). As such I definitely foresee some sparks from nails, screws etc. I've always been super careful when using the DC units when sparks are possible because of the possibility of one getting inside the DC and smoldering in there until it causes a fire.. nightmare right?
So my questions are, A. Why isn't the spark trap mentioned (484733),  to be found on the festool usa site?
B. Is this a unit that installs on the tool end or the DC end? C. does it work with sanders? D. Does it work at all? E. where/can I get one?
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« Reply #120 on: September 12, 2019, 08:15 PM »
Festool USA discontinued these a few 6ears back. They may still be available elsewhere in the world though. I've found them to work well. It attaches to the outlet on the DC.

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« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2019, 08:38 AM »
Why isn't the spark trap mentioned (484733), to be found on the festool usa site?

As already mentioned, this accessory was discontinued 4 years ago so finding a Festool unit will be difficult.

However, an easier search would be looking for a Nilfisk spark arrestor as they manufactured the Festool unit.

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« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2019, 11:37 AM »
If you are concerned about sparks when grinding metal there are several things you could do. Start with empty bag or no bag at all (just filter). Do not leave vac unattended and remove bag after completing the task. Connect vac through a container, for example a bucket. After all the FT spark trap is just intermediate container to slow down air flow and drop particles.

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« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2019, 12:13 PM »
Even simpler is to add another length of hose. The life of a spark can be measured in milliseconds. Most sparks would never make it through the first hose.

According to this, cyclones are effective too.
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« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2019, 06:45 PM »
I literally just bought one from a dealer last week that was 50% off - I think that they might still have a few left. Just google it and you can find it.

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« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2019, 07:35 PM »
And I just checked and they are out of stock...

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« Reply #126 on: September 16, 2019, 11:12 AM »
Friendly bump in case anyone else is interested in the RAS 115, we have them in stock and ready to ship.

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« Reply #127 on: September 16, 2019, 10:45 PM »
This is a great sander. I’m making a couple of Adirondack chairs and a loveseat. I was using 1x stock to match the porch I just made for my wife. The wood is cedartone treated. I needed to roundover many edges and this removed the surface scale and lightened the wood a bit so I needed to sand the other surfaces.

I was using my ETS EC 150/5&3 EQ but was taking too long. I had read this 115 was a very aggressive sander but thought I’d give it a try anyway. WOW - found giving it a light touch and letting the sanders weight do the work it was perfect. I used 80 grit because that’s the highest I bought. Then I used 120 & 150 with my ETS’s. Now I’ll need to get some height grit for my 115!

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« Reply #128 on: September 16, 2019, 10:47 PM »
The RAS was always towards the middle of my long list of tools to buy.  Well fortunately I was looking at the Milwaukee trim router on Toolnut.com and noticed on the side of the page that the RAS was on sale for $215.  A quick search on here and I was able to find out why it was at such a great price.  Anyway I made the decision to move the RAS all the way to the top of my list of tools to buy and placed my order today.  Thanks Shane for starting this thread and for the great price.

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« Reply #129 on: September 16, 2019, 11:32 PM »
Thanks Shane for starting this thread and for the great price.

 [thumbs up] Thanks for the order. That new Milwaukee M18 router is pretty sweet too, glad you got our email about it.
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« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2019, 05:15 PM »
I use my RAS 115 more than any other tool except drills. As a cabinet installer, it works wonders for all the scribing I have to do. I might have to grab another just to have a back up.

I had to jump on the deal, after I realized that I had installed a few thousand feet of crown molding without knowing anything about the RAS115.

Mines supposed to be here tomorrow and I've been educating myself with the YouTube videos available. Thank you Peter Halle and others for the excellent help.

And thanks to Shane for the awesome service.

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« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2019, 07:29 PM »
And thanks to Shane for the awesome service.

Our absolute pleasure to serve you, sir.  [big grin]
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« Reply #132 on: September 23, 2019, 11:54 PM »
Received the RAS 115 last week and for the couple of quick jobs I've used it for I can say to those sitting on the fence please purchase one before they're gone.

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« Reply #133 on: September 23, 2019, 11:55 PM »
Received the RAS 115 last week and for the couple of quick jobs I've used it for I can say to those sitting on the fence please purchase one before they're gone.

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« Reply #134 on: September 29, 2019, 01:08 PM »
Having only recently developed a use for something like the RAS 115 I was more than a little frustrated by Festool killing it off. I'm in the UK and it's not to be found anywhere. I grabbed the 180 which has only just been discontinued here so there's unit to be had for now. But the 180 is a big boy and I continued to hunt around for something like the 115...

I came across the Arbortech Power Carving Unit (https://www.arbortechtools.com/au/power-carving-unit/) which I think is relatively new to the market. It comes with a couple of dust shrouds for assorted accessories including a 100mm sanding pad and their Turbo Planer blade. The sanding pad looks to have a wee bit of softness to it so good for curves and the leveling dust collecting attachment looks handy too for flattening things and not digging in when you're not looking.

Axminster and Yandles carry them in the UK where you can get the set (£195) and with the Turbo Planer blade for £330ish. It'll also take all their other accessories so it has potential to shift a lot of wood in a hurry!

I'm not sure the shrouds look all that sturdy but we'll see once it arrives.

Oh, and another interesting bit is a small fan blade that mounts between the grinder and whatever disk you put on it. The idea is it generates extra air flow to direct dust / chips into the extraction port. Sounds like a good idea in theory. They claim you can just attach the included section of hose and point it at a bucket rather than fill up an extractor. Not sure how well that will work in practice as I imagine the hose will end up pointing elsewhere... at your shoes most likely. I did see a German guy on YouTube with a Festool hose connected so I'd imagine that'll be the way to go.

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« Reply #135 on: September 29, 2019, 01:17 PM »
Hi,

Can you mount a Kutzall Original Shaping Dish - Fine, 4-1/2" on the RAS 115 for wood carving?

Thanks,
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