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Offline Bob D.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2017, 08:59 PM »
The woodpeckers DP table is nice, I have one, but it doesn't help with rotating or tilting the table.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2017, 10:25 PM »
Cheese, 

I see you opted for the mini-micro metal vise.


That’s funny Bryan...your post made my day...seriously...for metal working you need either clamping force or weight or both. The Heinrich is only 40# and thus when you secure it to the Woodpeckers drill press table, even though the clamping track is relatively weak, the weight advantage just means it’s just not going to move.

I should however reveal that I did remove the original fasteners from the Woodpeckers track and rebed the track with construction adhesive and steel t-nuts. That’s the way it should have come from the factory.


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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2017, 11:28 PM »
The woodpeckers DP table is nice, I have one, but it doesn't help with rotating or tilting the table.

But the rotation or tilting of the drill press table is endemic to the manufacturer of the drill press.

I’ve just always thought that a drill press (like a band saw) is such a universal tool that’s it’s difficult to have a “one size fits all” scenario. Everyone uses these tools in a different manner.

I just find the Woodpeckers drill press table to be a nice bridge between metal working and woodworking. It can be used for either and removed when serious metalworking dictates.

Offline duc996

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2018, 11:26 PM »
For those interested in this drill press, we have it on sale currently at $1,349 for a limited time. Regularly $1,499.99.

http://www.toolnut.com/teknatool-new-nova-voyager-drill-press.html

Shane, any idea of when it will go on sale again?

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2018, 11:31 PM »
Shane, any idea of when it will go on sale again?

@duc996, since it was on sale through 12/31, my guess would be that it'll be a while before they do another promotion. I don't have any knowledge of anything currently on the calendar. But, if you click the notify button at the top of this thread, I'll post as soon as we learn of another sale.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2018, 11:34 PM »
Thank you Shane.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2018, 11:37 PM »
Is the current $100 discount the same as the pre-christmas sale?

From reading the reviews, folks seem to like the drill press pretty well -- with the chuck's not holding fine bits being a commonly-acknowledged limitation.

How has it been for overall runout and quality of the holes otherwise?  is it adjustable if any play does develop?

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press - $200 Rebate
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2018, 02:45 PM »
Order now from toolnut.com and receive $200 off via online rebate form. Offer valid through 9/30/2018.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2018, 08:30 PM »
Order now from toolnut.com and receive $200 off via online rebate form. Offer valid through 9/30/2018.

Order Teknatool Voyager DVR Drill Press

Shane
Saw that. Now if we could combine that with a 10-15% off day from AcmeTools or if it's your birthday month they give you a 15% off coupon, we'd REALLY have a deal!

Hopefully thatll happen before Sept. 30th for anyone thats looking to buy one of these!
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Offline neilc

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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2018, 11:23 PM »
Bought one of these around the first of the year to replace a small Delta bench top.  Made a custom top using Woodpecker fence and stops.

The drill press is really nice- love the ability to slow it down to 50 RPM very quickly.  Also really like the auto-depth stop for drilling a series of holes the same depth.

Since I've owned it in six short months, there have been two software updates to the unit.  You do need a WINDOWS machine to do the updates via USB as an FYI.  But it's nice to see them adding new functionality and simplifying the user interface over time.

It does have a tapping mode that will auto reverse, though I have not yet used it.

I did change out the chuck for one that would go down to a 1/16" bit.  The standard chuck does not close down small enough and rather than deal with a secondary small insert chuck, I just swapped it out.


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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2018, 03:05 AM »
Thanks for the caster mounting suggestion. My local shop fabricated similar mounting strips and braised the studs securing the base so the bottom is smooth. Works great! [smile]

Offline worldburger

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2019, 05:35 AM »
Bought one of these around the first of the year to replace a small Delta bench top.  Made a custom top using Woodpecker fence and stops.

The drill press is really nice- love the ability to slow it down to 50 RPM very quickly.  Also really like the auto-depth stop for drilling a series of holes the same depth.

Since I've owned it in six short months, there have been two software updates to the unit.  You do need a WINDOWS machine to do the updates via USB as an FYI.  But it's nice to see them adding new functionality and simplifying the user interface over time.

It does have a tapping mode that will auto reverse, though I have not yet used it.

I did change out the chuck for one that would go down to a 1/16" bit.  The standard chuck does not close down small enough and rather than deal with a secondary small insert chuck, I just swapped it out.

What chuck did you end up going with for the 1/16” bit?

Offline neilc

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2019, 10:45 AM »

What chuck did you end up going with for the 1/16” bit?

I went with this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CVJC3E/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Albrecht which is probably the best out there is over $500 and I could not justify it.  I've been happy with the one I got.

Offline rvieceli

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« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2019, 03:15 PM »
@neilc and anybody else following along, while it's true that the MSRP on Albrecht chucks is rather expensive, they really do make a big difference in work flow and accuracy over a cheap chuck.

BUT Albrecht chucks on the secondary market can be had for very reasonable prices. Ebay routinely has the 1-13mm chuck in very good to excellent condition in the $100 to $200 price range. A lot of the offerings are closer to $125-150. Those are buy it now prices. Auction listings can often be had for under $100 if you are skilled and lucky.

changing out the taper, while not trivial, is not that hard. All the parts for the entire chuck are readily available.

Albrecht chucks make an excellent addition to your drill press.  right @Cheese

Ron

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2019, 04:38 PM »
@neilc and anybody else following along, while it's true that the MSRP on Albrecht chucks is rather expensive, they really do make a big difference in work flow and accuracy over a cheap chuck.

BUT Albrecht chucks on the secondary market can be had for very reasonable prices. Ebay routinely has the 1-13mm chuck in very good to excellent condition in the $100 to $200 price range. A lot of the offerings are closer to $125-150. Those are buy it now prices. Auction listings can often be had for under $100 if you are skilled and lucky.

changing out the taper, while not trivial, is not that hard. All the parts for the entire chuck are readily available.

Albrecht chucks make an excellent addition to your drill press.  right @Cheese

Absolutely Ron... [big grin]  I have 2 for my drill press and 1 for my lathe. You can find like-new Albrecht's on Ebay for right around $100. I paid $75 for a 3/8" version for the lathe.

Tool shops open and close every day in the US...it's a tough business because the price of entry is steep. So if you're looking for a Wilton or Kurt vise or an Albrecht chuck, they're out there used and some are just like new.  [smile]

Check this out, here's a photo of a 1/2" version for my drill press that I purchased for $110 a couple of years ago on Ebay. It came in the original box with the original wax paper.


Offline neilc

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2019, 05:01 PM »
Beautiful chuck @Cheese !

What does it take to add a #2 morse taper to a used Albrecht chuck?  That range that you have of 1/32 to 1/2 would be perfect...

Offline Cheese

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« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2019, 06:04 PM »
Beautiful chuck @Cheese !

What does it take to add a #2 morse taper to a used Albrecht chuck?  That range that you have of 1/32 to 1/2 would be perfect...

Hey @neilc , Albrecht makes chucks both with arbors and without arbors. For more flexibility, I prefer the version without a built in arbor. Also, you'll have an easier time finding one on Ebay because it can be swapped around.

Here's a list of the 1-13 (1/32"-1/2") version.
http://www.albrecht-germany.com/en/products/1stdrill-chuck/inner-taper/10-13-mm/

The one I purchased had a #6 Jacobs taper and my drill press has a #3 Morse taper, so that's the arbor I ordered from MSC. Wedges are also available from MSC.

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/08591810?fromRR=Y

Photo 1
Albrecht 1-13 chuck with #6JT to #3MT arbor installed.



Photo 2
Appropriate wedges are installed and are either hit with a hammer or squeezed together with a large Channel-Lock pliers.



Photo 3
And voila...there's my arbor...a #6JT to #3MT.



Photo 4
Here's a shot of the 3/8" (.5 mm -10 mm) Albrecht for the lathe. I believe it's a #J33 to #1MT arbor

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Offline rvieceli

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2019, 06:22 PM »
@neilc The chuck removal wedges are taper specific so get the correct ones for your taper on the chuck end.

https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/?searchterm=chuck+removal+wedges&hdrsrh=true

McMaster also has this stuff

Once the taper is out, it's just a matter of inserting the correct taper in the chuck and then giving it a wack to seat it.

Here's a reasonable video of the process.



Ron
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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #78 on: January 24, 2019, 07:44 PM »
Has anyone tried one with the Nova tapping function?  Does it open up when going backwards?

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« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2019, 07:47 PM »
Thanks @Cheese and @rvieceli - Appreciate the thoughts, links and photos.

Now to watch eBay more closely!

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« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2019, 01:04 PM »
Thanks @Cheese and @rvieceli - Appreciate the thoughts, links and photos.

Now to watch eBay more closely!

I echo neilc's comment.  Thanks to both of you for the enlightenment!  My machinist father who passed 20 years ago shared some knowledge with me, but I never knew the tapered shafts were interchangeable.

Cheese, I see how you use the wedges to separate the tapered shaft from the chuck, but how do you do that with the #1 morse taper in your picture which doesn't seem to have a lip the wedges can push against?

Thanks, Mike A. 

Offline Cheese

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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2019, 01:52 PM »

I echo neilc's comment.  Thanks to both of you for the enlightenment!  My machinist father who passed 20 years ago shared some knowledge with me, but I never knew the tapered shafts were interchangeable.

Cheese, I see how you use the wedges to separate the tapered shaft from the chuck, but how do you do that with the #1 morse taper in your picture which doesn't seem to have a lip the wedges can push against?


Hey Mike, if you're dad was a machinist, he probably left you all sorts of neat machinist items.  [big grin]  I find machine tools and all things machinist oriented pretty cool. [cool] [cool] [cool]

To answer your question, I'll just take a dead-blow hammer and strike the arbor smartly but not too heavily (if that makes sense [smile]) , then rotate the chuck 90º and strike again, rotate 90º strike again...

It usually takes just a few taps to loosen the arbor because the diameter is pretty small on that #1 MT.

Here's a list of common tapers I refer to from time to time. If you have the odd arbor hanging around & don't know what it is, this can help identify it.

https://littlemachineshop.com/reference/tapers.php

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« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2019, 07:14 PM »
Hey Cheese,
Thanks for the response!  No heirloom tools from my Dad, but he did leave me lots of little stuff like a few sets of really nice drill bits (some Cleveland Twist Drill), end mills, calipers, taps, dies, rules, squares, some micrometers, and other miscellaneous stuff.  I also have a few tapered chucks, but I think they all have keys.  When I have a chance to use any of it I always have fond memories!

Mike A. 

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« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2019, 07:39 PM »
Hey Mike, gotta love ❤️ the Cleveland twist drills...I just ordered some Cleveland cobalt metric twist drills today from MSC.  [cool]

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2019, 11:50 AM »
I was thinking of replacing the stock chuck with an Albrecht chuck on my ~1990 Delta 16 1/2" floor drill press.   How do I figure out which arbor to get for it?

Thanks in advance.

Bob


Absolutely Ron... [big grin]  I have 2 for my drill press and 1 for my lathe. You can find like-new Albrecht's on Ebay for right around $100. I paid $75 for a 3/8" version for the lathe.

Tool shops open and close every day in the US...it's a tough business because the price of entry is steep. So if you're looking for a Wilton or Kurt vise or an Albrecht chuck, they're out there used and some are just like new.  [smile]

Check this out, here's a photo of a 1/2" version for my drill press that I purchased for $110 a couple of years ago on Ebay. It came in the original box with the original wax paper.

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Offline Cheese

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« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2019, 06:11 PM »
I was thinking of replacing the stock chuck with an Albrecht chuck on my ~1990 Delta 16 1/2" floor drill press.   How do I figure out which arbor to get for it?

The first thing to do is to remove the existing chuck from the drill press using the drill chuck drift that came with the Delta. The end of the arbor that goes into the drill press is probably a Morse #2 or #3 taper.

Once the chuck is removed, then you need to separate the arbor from the chuck using the drill chuck wedges that also came with the Delta.

After the chuck is separated from the arbor, just measure both ends of the arbor using this chart to find out what tapers are used in the drill chuck and in the drill press.

The taper used in the drill chuck is probably a Jacobs taper, while the taper in the drill press is a Morse taper.


https://littlemachineshop.com/reference/tapers.php

Offline rmhinden

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« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2019, 11:41 PM »

The first thing to do is to remove the existing chuck from the drill press using the drill chuck drift that came with the Delta. The end of the arbor that goes into the drill press is probably a Morse #2 or #3 taper.

Once the chuck is removed, then you need to separate the arbor from the chuck using the drill chuck wedges that also came with the Delta.

After the chuck is separated from the arbor, just measure both ends of the arbor using this chart to find out what tapers are used in the drill chuck and in the drill press.

The taper used in the drill chuck is probably a Jacobs taper, while the taper in the drill press is a Morse taper.


https://littlemachineshop.com/reference/tapers.php

Thank very much!  I have the drift that came with it, but don't think I have wedges, but will look.

Bob

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« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2019, 08:59 AM »

Thank very much!  I have the drift that came with it, but don't think I have wedges, but will look.


Bob, you'll notice a huge difference when you change chucks, especially if you go to an Albrecht. The chucks that have been standard on almost all recent (30 years or so) Delta's are made in China. There are runout problems, there are tightening issues and they don't operate very smoothly.

On the Chinese arbor that came with my Delta, the Morse #3 end wasn't as smooth as it should have been and it would sometimes release itself from the drill press quill prematurely.  [eek]

I use the Albrecht chuck & Albrecht arbor for up to 1/2" drills and then a Jacobs Ball Bearing chuck & Jacobs arbor for stuff over 1/2".

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« Reply #88 on: January 29, 2019, 11:01 AM »
FWIW...just reflecting on this thread of fitting an Albrecht keyless chuck on the Voyager, if you do use the tapping feature on the drill press, you will probably need to replace the Albrecht (or any other keyless chuck) with the standard keyed chuck that came with it.

The reason being is that once the Voyager starts to go into the reverse mode, if there is any resistance to backing out, the keyless chuck will actually start to loosen the jaws and you may need to then remove the tap by hand.

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Re: New Teknatool NOVA Voyager DVR Drill Press
« Reply #89 on: February 09, 2019, 10:41 PM »
Just found a good deal on a brand new Albrecht 1/2" on eBay finally! Ordered a new arbor and going to upgrade the Jacobs 14N I have in my Delta 18-900L. Always wanted to try one of these Albrecht keyless chucks.
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