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Offline JimTom

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1020 on: July 25, 2018, 03:46 AM »
Carba-Tec New Zealand used to have specials all the time, not anymore. Their prices seem to have gone up too, the only store in the country

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1021 on: July 25, 2018, 06:28 AM »
I received the same e mail from the toothless dog they call the ACCC. Clearly Tooltechnic Systems have told a good story and managed to get RPM for another 3 years.

I noticed the bias in the ACCC documentation, there was not very much put forward in regards to our submissions as to why they shouldn't have retail price maintenance. In particular the shortcomings we raised were not addressed.

Might have a look at the next steps. Last time I tried the Commonwealth Ombudsman but that went nowhere.
Regards
Graham

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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1022 on: July 25, 2018, 08:35 AM »
I received the same e mail from the toothless dog they call the ACCC. Clearly Tooltechnic Systems have told a good story and managed to get RPM for another 3 years.

I noticed the bias in the ACCC documentation, there was not very much put forward in regards to our submissions as to why they shouldn't have retail price maintenance. In particular the shortcomings we raised were not addressed.

Might have a look at the next steps. Last time I tried the Commonwealth Ombudsman but that went nowhere.

I think the telling factor this time was the significant increase in numbers of dealers supporting continuance of the original Determination.
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Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1023 on: July 26, 2018, 03:15 AM »
@Untidy Shop

Wonder how much influence was made in their decision. I know my local Festool dealer doesn't move a lot as I never see anyone in the section. Therefore I wonder how RPM is assisting these dealers to hit their sales targets.

One dealer in the submissions was dead against it, which was interesting.
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1024 on: September 27, 2018, 07:14 PM »
Hello All

Hope you all are well.

FYI I contacted TTS about the Cyclone separator and the MW1000 workstation. I have been advised that they are expected early next year down under. Pricing is unknown.

I am interested in both of these items in the future.

Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Mr_Mod

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1025 on: September 28, 2018, 05:33 AM »
I ordered the cyclone separator a while ago, it shipped last Wednesday and landed in country Tuesday. Now need Auspost to deliver, paid 260 Euro plus postage of 45 Euro

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1026 on: September 28, 2018, 08:26 PM »
@Mr Mod

Will be interested to see how it performs after you test it.


Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Untidy Shop

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If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline dr.r.lam

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1028 on: December 08, 2018, 08:40 PM »
Hi FOG users.


I picked up some of the October specials, but I was wondering whether to buy other items now, or wait for the new year?


I guess there could be promotions in January, but also a possible annual price increase?


I would be looking to get an OF1400 and TS55 plus bits a pieces.


Should I buy in December, knowing there's a 30day return period, so if there are deals in the new year I can possible grab those instead?


Thank you!!!

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1029 on: December 12, 2018, 04:06 PM »
@dr.r.lam

They bring their promos out on a cycle. Generally for a TS55 of OF1400 you'll save $100 or maybe get a blade. Whilst its not a lot I usually wait for the promos to come out on principle. If we didn't have RPM I would purchase as I would for anything else.

Currently looking for a tool supplier who does trade accounts, I want to get the RG130 and CT36 autoclean to use at work when we do floor repairs. Any recommendations?
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline dr.r.lam

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1030 on: December 14, 2018, 01:17 AM »

Thanks @Grakat
Much appreciated.

Currently looking for a tool supplier who does trade accounts,


Check out Northern Abrasives at Brookvale (Rod and Darren). They should look after you well, but I have no experience with trade accounts through them.
Easiest to email them (info@NorthernAbrasives.com.au).

Offline LooseSox

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1031 on: December 14, 2018, 02:45 AM »
@Grakat

No one will do trade discounts on Festool gear. The MRP applies across all customers and accounts. You'll get a 5% discount on a purchase above $6000. The only other way you'll get a discount is if you're a registered education facility.

Offline Bernmc

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1032 on: December 20, 2018, 06:31 PM »
Worth having a look around in all your local Festool dealers now. I picked up a 4m plug-it lead, 800mm guiderail and a Kapex 120 at significant reductions yesterday. There was a TS55, jigsaw, CT mini or midi and a light, some with a couple of hundred+ off in one of my locals.

Christmas clearout time I guess.

Offline LooseSox

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1033 on: December 21, 2018, 05:42 AM »
Yeah deleted and superseded stock can be discounted. The mini is being dropped in Oz so whatever is left in the shops is it. Likewise with the stock levels of the midi until the new model hits the country early next year. Plug it leads have had a revamp too so older models are being cleared out.

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1034 on: December 21, 2018, 11:54 PM »
Hi Guys,

Trade account is to enable purchase with a PO rather than the discounts. Otherwise it's using petty cash lol
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1035 on: January 09, 2019, 11:46 PM »
Hi everyone

The latest round of quasi promotions are out. Was looking at some of the prices, some of the so called rebates were actually disguising price rises. For example the OF1400 by itself used to be $1115.00 now its $1235 but you get a free systainer. I think it flies in the face of even their price fixing deal, advertising a discount which in fact is a price rise.

Wonder what our friends at the ACCC think of it.
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Bernmc

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1036 on: January 13, 2019, 08:26 PM »
Hi everyone

The latest round of quasi promotions are out. Was looking at some of the prices, some of the so called rebates were actually disguising price rises. For example the OF1400 by itself used to be $1115.00 now its $1235 but you get a free systainer. I think it flies in the face of even their price fixing deal, advertising a discount which in fact is a price rise.

Wonder what our friends at the ACCC think of it.

I don't think the OF1400 is advertised as discounted in the brochure - green prices are 'specials', black are normal. And the new normal is $1235. There's no attempt to disguise the price rise (and we all knew it was coming from 1 Jan - it's like death and taxes).

There's just a redemption promo with it for the Sys1 router storage box.

I weighed up the risks of waiting for the new campaign vs the Jan price rise, and decided to get in before the price rise. Glad I did. None of the redemption promos in this one are of much value to me. The battery in the previous one was, the radio wasn't.

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1037 on: February 26, 2019, 08:53 AM »
Just a heads up for our Aussie friends here, there is a contest on Facebook By Festool Australia that you might want to check out.  I know many have pro and con feelings about Facebook and I am not wanting to step into those discussions.  I just wanted to share something I saw:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/festool-australia/festool-australias-tsc-55-giveaway/2285148721698741/?fbclid=IwAR1bt28qKjnm7NJUJIxH3PBAe0YSsMbTReCn66IkbezIHlfvorKhTgcpx3U

Peter

Offline Grakat

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1038 on: February 27, 2019, 06:53 PM »
Thanks Peter for the heads up.

I'm sure some of us will be keen to enter. Nothing like the chance to add another Festool tool to the collection.
Regards
Graham

Festool ETS150/3, TS55, CT26, DF500+ Domino set, PS300, HKC55, RO150

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... FESTOOL and UTube Ads!!
« Reply #1039 on: April 02, 2019, 09:19 PM »
Are any other Aussies being 'Blitzed' by FESTOOL Australia's Advertising on UTube?

I know it's most likely the UTube algorithm but I am so over the FESTOOL Adverting on UTube. Each and every single viewing for the last week.

It's a enough to turn one off FESTOOL!  [eek]

The Algarithm is ineresting in that I seldom watch woodworking on UTube. In the last month I have been viewing aviation restoration and British Canal Boat Vlogs. However two months ago I was viewing woodern boat restoration  Vlogs and one of these restorers uses a FESTOOL plane and a TS. So there you go!  [eek]

« Last Edit: April 02, 2019, 09:22 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline denovo

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Re: One for the Aussies... FESTOOL and UTube Ads!!
« Reply #1040 on: April 02, 2019, 11:41 PM »
Are any other Aussies being 'Blitzed' by FESTOOL Australia's Advertising on UTube?

I know it's most likely the UTube algorithm but I am so over the FESTOOL Adverting on UTube. Each and every single viewing for the last week.

It's a enough to turn one off FESTOOL!  [eek]

The Algarithm is ineresting in that I seldom watch woodworking on UTube. In the last month I have been viewing aviation restoration and British Canal Boat Vlogs. However two months ago I was viewing woodern boat restoration  Vlogs and one of these restorers uses a FESTOOL plane and a TS. So there you go!  [eek]



I hate to burst your bubble but utube probably has a cookie installed in your brower that tracks all your web activity.  They probably know more about you then your significant other does! 

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies... Still a hopeless Festool Aust Website
« Reply #1041 on: May 12, 2019, 12:08 AM »
Following past experiences with the Festool Aust Website, particularly the search function, I tend to find it easier to use a retailers website - Just Tools or Sydney Tools for example.

Today I found myself again frustrated by the Festool Australia Website -
time for a change Mr Festool,
how many sales are you losing through this hopeless mess!?
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline eddomak

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CTL Sys Discontinued & Discounted?
« Reply #1042 on: May 29, 2019, 10:52 PM »
Hi all, I was just browsing the Sydney Tools site to see if it would be worth going into the sale night, and noticed couple of Festool items on "Clearance", including the CTL SYS for $439 (https://sydneytools.com.au/product/festool-ctl-sys-1000w-4-5l-l-class-vacuum-dust-extractor-in-systainer-format), which raised my curiosity so I looked and cannot find this on the Festool site anymore. Other shops seem to have it still advertised for $549, so could be a chance to save yourself some money here if interest. Some other tools KS88) are there, and some are eligible for some promos too.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: CTL Sys Discontinued & Discounted?
« Reply #1043 on: May 30, 2019, 04:47 AM »
Hi all, I was just browsing the Sydney Tools site to see if it would be worth going into the sale night, and noticed couple of Festool items on "Clearance", including the CTL SYS for $439 (https://sydneytools.com.au/product/festool-ctl-sys-1000w-4-5l-l-class-vacuum-dust-extractor-in-systainer-format), which raised my curiosity so I looked and cannot find this on the Festool site anymore. Other shops seem to have it still advertised for $549, so could be a chance to save yourself some money here if interest. Some other tools KS88) are there, and some are eligible for some promos too.

Hi. @eddomak 
Carbatec is also discounting some Festool tools at the moment. eg. BS75 Belt Sander in Box down from $A695 to $A590.75 and QF2200 Plus in Sys from $A1775 to $A1508.75.

And Just Tools are discounting some Storage Systainers.
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Untidy Shop

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« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 03:36 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Cheese

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1045 on: July 29, 2019, 09:34 AM »
Hey Untidy, that seems like a good deal for you guys finally. It's $800 in the States and with a 1.45:1 currency conversion you'd normally be in the $1100-$1200 range.  [smile]

Either that, or we should be in the $550 range.  [crying] [crying]
« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 09:37 AM by Cheese »

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1046 on: July 29, 2019, 09:42 AM »
Hey Untidy, that seems like a good deal for you guys finally. It's $800 in the States and with a 1.45:1 currency conversion you'd normally be in the $1100-$1200 range.  [smile]

Either that, or we should be in the $550 range.  [crying] [crying]

@Cheese
Yes you are right - on today's conversion rate you should be paying $US576.19. There is a building slump in most states down here, so FESTOOL Aust might be pricing for sales in a depressed market. Maybe!
« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 09:44 AM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Cheese

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Re: One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1047 on: July 29, 2019, 09:46 AM »
Yes you are right - on today's conversion rate you should be paying $US576.19. [/font]

Well that's not right... [dead horse] [dead horse]

At $550 I'd think about a cordless upgrade, however at $800 my corded Vecturo is perfect.  [big grin]

Offline AndrewG

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One for the Aussies...
« Reply #1048 on: October 10, 2019, 12:48 AM »
Festool Australia have some sales on at the moment. I was looking at the 202510 Festool abrasives assortment in a Sys 2 for $99 and the domino assortment with cutters for $199. They seem like good deals to me?



https://assetsprod.festool.com.au/festool/media/festool%20images/campaign/2019q4/festool-2019-q4-brochure-web.pdf
« Last Edit: October 10, 2019, 02:57 AM by AndrewG »