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Offline srmumz

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Domino Issue...
« on: June 15, 2007, 07:43 AM »
Let me start by saying that I received my Domino shortly after the initial release. I still do not have an Owners manual, so if my descriptions are wrong please forgive me.

The issue I am having concerns adjusting the ?indexing pins? on the front of the unit. This is one of two that are spring loaded and retract. I backed out the set pin and attempted to adjust the adjustable pin with a standard screw driver, but it would not budge. It seems to be machined as a cam so that you can fine tune it. The variance between the two pins is 1/32nd of an inch. It may not sound like much, but over the course of 220+ mortise holes (my current commission) it makes my job very difficult.

Could someone please let me know if I am trying to adjust it improperly, or where I could send it to be adjusted?

Thanks in advance.


Tim Mummert
Cornerstone Carpentry

 


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Offline bruegf

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  • Michigan
Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2007, 08:08 AM »
Tim,

There is a tiny set screw that requires a 2mm allen wrench on the side of the base.  Even with the set screw loosened properly it took a lot of force to turn the pin to adjust it, which makes it very difficult to adjust accurately.  Make sure you have a screw driver that fits the slots very well.

Fred
Fred

Offline PatR

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 08:10 AM »
Hi

This is from an Irishman living in Wales so were I you I would get this checked by a professional!

The adjustable index pin is held tight by a 2mm Hex bolt/grub screw at the side. To adjust the index pin you must first release the bolt using a 2mm hex key and then with a screwdriver, adjust the pin either in or out. If you turn the pin slot anti-clockwise it will move closer to the bit, clockwise further away. Each mark on the index pin cam moves it .25mm or .010"

Hope this is of help and enjoy your Domino

Pat

Offline srmumz

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2007, 08:17 AM »
I removed the set screw completely, and still can not get the pin to turn. It seems like some of the lock-tite from the set screw worked it's way into the pin. I'll try loosing it up with some anti seize...(my last resort, It will kill any of the exotics I work with

Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2007, 09:52 AM »
Tim, What ever kind of lube you use to loosen the screw, as you drip or spray the lube around the pin lightly tap the area to add a vibration to allow the fluid to flow into the affected area.

My pin was off big time as well and face frames were not flush...
Miller's Wood Works

Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 12:00 PM »
A Domi virgin ;D

First, if you dont have the manual, how do you know about the adjustment?

Second, if you read the advice of other Domiphiles here and on the other various forums, you will notice no one uses the index pins for long runs of morticing. Waste of time. Use the index pin on the very first plunge and pencil mark the rest.

The accuracy of the pins (for me) is more to do with leg/rail, stile/rail joining. Others may disagree.

And as you are having trouble with the adjustment, a soldering iron on the screw/pin
 will break the bond (expansion/contraction)

And because you dont have a manual, grab this one from Rick. Its as good as you will get http://festool.home.att.net/

You will even learn all about about Ricks Ring ;D

« Last Edit: June 15, 2007, 12:06 PM by Tezzer »
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Offline srmumz

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2007, 12:20 PM »
I am not a domino "virgin". I have been using mine on face frames and doors since I purchased it right off the truck at the end of April.

I have owned a few sub standard "Grizzly" type tools over the years so understanding adjustments are no big deal. I just needed to know that I was doing the right thing.

BTW for what this tool or any Festool for that matter cost, ALL of the adjustments and fitment should be either perfect or painless to get there. If I can't trust the indexing of the pins, how am I to trust the quality of the rest of the tool?

I am going to try the heat recomendations this afternoon.

Thanks

Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2007, 12:27 PM »
If I can't trust the indexing of the pins, how am I to trust the quality of the rest of the tool?


Sorry srmumz, but that is a silly thing to say. There is nothing wrong with the indexing pins on this gorgeous beast.
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Offline Christian Oltzscher

  • Festool Employee.
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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2007, 09:31 PM »
srmunz,

Please get in touch with David McGibbon at 800-554-8741 (Festool service line). He can talk you through
the adjustment. If that does not work, he will issue a call-tag and adjust your Domino here at the Festool service shop.

Sorry for the trouble.

Regards,

Christian Oltzscher
Festool USA

Offline Les Spencer

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Re: Domino Issue...
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2007, 10:40 PM »
If I can't trust the indexing of the pins, how am I to trust the quality of the rest of the tool?


Sorry srmumz, but that is a silly thing to say. There is nothing wrong with the indexing pins on this gorgeous beast.

Tezzer,

You are correct. The pin is not the problem. The problem is the eccentric bushing is too tight.

I spoke to David at Festool about this same problem. He suggested I take a small drift pin and insert into the hole behind the pin and drive the pin and bushing out. Then take a piece of self adhesive sand paper, stick it on a wooden dowel and try sanding the hole to open it up. He said to only try this if I felt comfortable doing so. I tried this several times without any luck. Each time I inserted the bushing and checked the the location of the mortise off each pin. I got in within <.005 as far as feel goes. I satisfied with it for now. David said if I couldn't correct the problem by sanding, to return it. Naturally I didn't want to be without my "gorgeous beast". None of the settings on mine were correct. All were easy to correct except for the bushing.
Les (near Indy) XL