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Offline glass1

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Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« on: January 05, 2019, 03:11 PM »
I am converted. After loving the 2200 I revisited the 1400. I think they made some quie improvements. Love it. I sold my 2 dw621s to junior carpenters. I think I will get another 1400 as I seem to need multiple set ups.

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Offline glass1

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 03:20 PM »
Almost forgot. The “overpriced plexiglass guide” is worth every penny. I will get another. It’s current use is routing out the tops of 9’ pocket doors for hafele hardware. My only complaint is I had to use a third party centering cone to align the plexi guide to the router.

Offline Grev

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 03:21 PM »
@glass1 The 1400's are nice, but curious about your acrylic router base ... or is that a template with the vac fitting attached?  I can't really tell from the photo?  I'm working with a local plastics fabricator to cnc an acrylic base with dust collection attachment for a special use and this design would work good.

Offline Gregor

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 03:30 PM »

Offline Cheese

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2019, 07:12 PM »
The 1400's are nice, but curious about your acrylic router base ... or is that a template with the vac fitting attached?

They’re expensive...the example that Gregor referenced is $365.

However, Amazon is currently offering them for $265...three left in stock.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 07:14 PM by Cheese »

Offline glass1

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 07:23 PM »
They work... therefore they are good.

Offline justaguy

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 08:06 PM »
The 1400's are nice, but curious about your acrylic router base ... or is that a template with the vac fitting attached?

They’re expensive...the example that Gregor referenced is $365.

However, Amazon is currently offering them for $265...three left in stock.

That price is from a UK seller. $35.25 shipping to the US

Offline Cheese

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 09:14 PM »
That price is from a UK seller. $35.25 shipping to the US

Now that makes sense.  [smile]  Everyone else is at $365 and this one wasn’t even from Amazon.de.  A rouge element in the mix.  [smile]

Offline Grev

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2019, 08:40 AM »

They’re expensive...the example that Gregor referenced is $365.

However, Amazon is currently offering them for $265...three left in stock.

Thanks for the info... wow, I think I'll pass!  I actually just want a square router base for the 1400 with a hose vac fitting to use with a router sled ... my plastics guy will come up with something.

Offline PaulH99

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2019, 05:25 AM »
Considering that the guide is only three pieces of plastic, I wonder if I could 3D print something similar? Hmmmm....
-Paul
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Offline RobBob

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 06:18 AM »
Here's another approach that may give you some ideas...Fast forward to about the 7:40 mark...


« Last Edit: January 18, 2019, 06:24 AM by RobBob »

Offline Job and Knock

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 04:40 PM »
A few years back I wentthe other way - sold the OF1400 and bought a DW622 (basically a DW621 with more power - 1400 watts).I don't regret doing it. I just found the Festool to be too quirky for my liking. It also helps that I could source a conversion ring which allowed me to use my Elu/DW/Trend guide bushes on the DW622. A real bonus
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Offline aloysius

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 05:52 PM »
Did the same myself.  I just find the old Mafell/Festo ergonomics a bit too weird & a little "off" for comfortable, safe use.  I've always considered the Elu DeWalt routing system to be the best available.

Using the Elu/Trend guide bush adapter allows direct use of Trend's jigs.  Otherwise all standard collets & guide bushes are compatible with DeWalt's other routers:  DW621, 626 etc.  Note however that only Oz/NZ & North American model DW621 routers have compatible collet spindles to the DW622 & 626.

Together with the timeless little Elu 96 router this forms a remarkably cohesive and comprehensive cross-compatible routing system that simply isn't available from any other manufacturer.  I'd go so far as to state that the Elu DeWalt routing system forms some sort of global standard or benchmark for routing systems,  Not bad for what are basically 40 year old designs!
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Offline glass1

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2019, 08:01 PM »
My European dw621s died years ago after many years of service. Unfortunately the newer made in Mexico versions had sticky plunges and did not spin true enough to run a 1/2” bit with a 5/8 bushing. I am keeping my 2 made in Italy and Switzerland dw615s. They are little gems but lack any dust control. The of1400 has grown on me and I can use porter cable bushings. It’s smoother and stronger than dw621 and the add on dust control works well. I like making jigs but sometimes nothing beats just buying something that works.

Offline Job and Knock

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Re: Goodbye Dewalt dw621 hello of1400
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2019, 11:49 AM »
My European dw621s died years ago after many years of service. Unfortunately the newer made in Mexico versions had sticky plunges and did not spin true enough to run a 1/2” bit with a 5/8 bushing.
I know that DW are notorious for chiselling away at price/quality. I didn't realise that they were that bad in the USA. DW621 (OF97e) production moved from Switzerland to Italy in the late 1990s and then 12 to 15 years back (the time that Felisatti were bought by the Russians) it moved again to Slovenia, to Perles (a firm which had assembled for Elu in the past, e.g. MH151, MHB157, etc). Whilst quality isn't as good as it was in Elu days, it's still a lot better than modern Porter-Cables. Perles also make the current DW625 and the DW615 (which actually seems to have started life as a copy of the original MOF96 that they made for AEG in the late 1970s)
Simplicity is the embodiment of purity and unity
- Shaker maxim

TS 55 - TS75 - Kapex KS120 - OF1010 - OF2200 - Rotex RO150e - Domino DF500Q -  Domino DF700XL