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Offline JD2720

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Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« on: November 07, 2009, 07:10 PM »
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 07:40 PM »

 I then drilled another in each piece that lined up with the mounting holes that are just behind the fence on the rear of the saw & added a wood block on the bottom of the bracket for the T knob to tighten against. 
         

I am glad to see you took the extra time to bolt the saw to the bracket. It would be a shame seeing it hit the floor from that height.

I am jealous that you guys are catching up enough to play with new toys already. I am so far backlogged that I can't even think of it. It isn't that I don't have time to do the simple setup on the vacuum clamp, but it would mean cleaning off my MFT, which is about a foot deep with junk.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 08:19 PM »
Rick, some of use have to buy our tools. ;D

I had to get it on the stand so I could use it on some paying jobs.
You left before I got my truck loaded, but the joke I made over at WoodNet turned out to be true after all. Over the top of the fenders and I had to leave the tailgate down to boot. 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 09:00 PM »


I am jealous that you guys are catching up enough to play with new toys already. I am so far backlogged that I can't even think of it. It isn't that I don't have time to do the simple setup on the vacuum clamp, but it would mean cleaning off my MFT, which is about a foot deep with junk.

That nothing Rick, my MFT has about three feet of junk, I'm not kidding. Are doing a manual for the vacuum clamp? I'd love to see pics when you get it set up.

Chris, how d you like the DeWalt stand? BTW, you the only guy I've ever heard to not love the Sawhelper. I feel bad for your poor Kapex stuck on the POS DeWalt.  [poke]  ;D

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 11:11 PM »
Nice. 

I went all out and got the Kapex table for mine.  I am trying to figure out a way to keep the saw mounted to the table and make the table easily portable.  I am all ready tired of 2 trips and 2 knobs and screws.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 08:46 AM »
I had a mft/3 so the kapex on its mft made sense.  Now for an easier way to move all that around!!

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 09:02 AM »
I had a mft/3 so the kapex on its mft made sense.  Now for an easier way to move all that around!!

Hire some kid to lug it around for you, if you're lucky he'll stick it for a week.

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 09:27 AM »
I had a mft/3 so the kapex on its mft made sense.  Now for an easier way to move all that around!!

Hire some kid to lug it around for you, if you're lucky he'll stick it for a week.

I am not sure I would be ok with someone else dragging my 1700 bucks around?!?

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 04:13 PM »
Chris

Many thanks for that DeWalt review. It came at exactly the right time for me, as I was looking at that same stand and wondering how compatible it was with the Kapex.

Whilst I was researching mitre saw stands, I found a video review (lasting 10mins 50sec) which might be of interest for FOG members. Entitled Miter-Saw-Stand Madness, "Mike Guertin explains the classes of miter-saw stands and demonstrates their benefits".

The DeWalt is featured, along with stands by Sawhelper, Hitachi, Sawhelper, Craftsman, Bosch etc.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 04:31 PM »
Nice video Forrest thanks for posting it.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 04:38 PM »
Nice video Forrest thanks for posting it.

You're welcome!

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 05:55 PM »
My friend has his kapex on the Bosch stand, it is a nice stand but, it takes up a bunch of room.

One of the benifits of these tools is the small amount of space they take up.


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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2009, 02:42 PM »
I have put my kapex on my dewalt stand to , their i confessed [embarassed]

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 02:49 PM »
But as you can see in Scotland our houses are tiny to say the least and a stand like this is priceless [big grin]

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2009, 03:08 PM »
The Dewalt stand is no 75lb MFT, but it is a rocking, portable 35lb handy little guy.

It folds up to about 5.5' x 7"x7" total, I can hang it on two hooks on the side of my trailer.  I can cut 16' long 2x6 stock on it - fully supported.  It sets up in a minute and breaks down in as much time.  It's simple to carry one-handed with NO effort.  It has a very comfortable handle.

The saw mounts on to it in seconds, I have two miter saws with mounts - they can both be mounted on the stand at the same time if you wanted.

It is sturdy, stable and cheap (can be had for as low as $150 or so easily).

Dewalt makes some POS tools, but  their miter saw stand is not one of them.  If you green snobs want a stand that can be used and doesn't have to be babied, look no further than the Dewalt.

And I'm no Dewalt pusher, usually the opposite.  Maybe most folks here have the wherewithal to buy only green stuff, but don't give the others here bad information about a good product just because it's not Green.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2009, 03:36 PM »
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I also have a Saw Helper stand that I use on large jobs. I will work that one out later.
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Chris,

I have a Saw Helper and got a Kapex a few weeks ago.   I'm wrestling with the best way of mounting it since SawHelper is no longer in business.    Some folks recommended custom brackets, that seems like a hassle.  I was thinking of an enlarged table with the wings attached to the ends of the table rather than the saw.   (Maybe something like the ones at the bottom of this page: http://www.garymkatz.com/ToolReviews/ad_e_sawstand.html.)  I'm interested to see what you come up with.

Regards,

Dan.


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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2009, 03:45 PM »
Julian,

I don't remember anybody trashing the Dewalt stand.  This is Festool forum so it might be appropriate to talk about Festools.  We talk good and bad about them.  We make fun of ourselves and use the phrases like "the slippery slope" and "green koolaid" to poke fun at ourselves.

But please, we are NOT snobs.  We're fans and connoisseurs.   ;D

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 04:01 PM »
...Maybe most folks here have the wherewithal to buy only green stuff, but don't give the others here bad information about a good product just because it's not Green.

JT
Julian,

I've been a member of FOG and talkFestool (another Festool related forum) for a long time.   AFAIK, NO ONE buys only Festool.   Like most people, I buy Festool when it meets my needs better.  For example, I looked at the MFT/Kapex, but decided that a SawHelper was better for my needs, so I bought a nice used one.  Each to his own.

Regarding Dewalt, I dislike the company intensely.  That said, some of their products are pretty good - like their lunch box planer (which I own).

Regards,

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 07:39 PM »
Chris,

I'm looking forward to the pics.

Dan.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 07:56 PM »
...Maybe most folks here have the wherewithal to buy only green stuff, but don't give the others here bad information about a good product just because it's not Green.

JT
Julian,



Regarding Dewalt, I dislike the company intensely.  That said, some of their products are pretty good - like their lunch box planer (which I own).

Regards,

Dan.

i am another one who does not like dewalt.  still have the 10 and  12 chop I use as a kick around saw, and the small table say which has several broken and fallen off pieces but it still works.  other wise all my other dewalt stuff is in shop in a box or gave it away.  started with them about 12 years ago and just  did not have good luck.  have a lot of bosch, makita, old porter cable, and milwalkee.  all very good tools.  but over the last several years have really been impressed with festool and what it can do for my needs.  and they make it happen.  yes I have had issues and they have been addressed and total customer satisfacation.  but overall I give them  5 stars!  with a max of 5 stars..

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2009, 08:25 PM »
The other thing to keep in mind is that the DeWalt stand, without any of the attachments or supports is the exact same height as a MFT1080 or 800.  Very handy to know if you just want to bring our one of the old MFTs and work with long or very wide pieces.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2009, 08:53 PM »
If one uses the kapex/mft3, and puts it next to the mft3 will the holes in the mft3 lineup such that one can use those holes to hold an extended fence ? I like the idea that the mft3 is at correct height to the kapex/mft3 but it would be ideal if one could put a fence on the mft3. That way you would get like a 'half' saw helper, sort of.

I still see the sawhelper page working so I emailed them to see if they're still in business.

Michael

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2009, 09:00 PM »
Works good like that but, not fun to set up all the time if you are moving the saw around.



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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2009, 05:20 PM »
My plan is to mount the Kapex and the Festool extensions on the DeWalt stand rather than on the MFT Kapex!


To be more specific:

1. Attach the Kapex to the DeWalt mounting brackets, either directly or using spacing pieces as per Chris's photos

2. Clip the Kapex and the DeWalt mounting brackets onto the stand

3. Attach a table widener/crown moulding stop bracket to either side of the Kapex

4. Take the left and right Festool extension arms and remove the legs and leg brackets

5. Attach the extension arms to the table widener/crown moulding stop brackets, as per Festool instructions

6. Lay the table extension arms on the DeWalt support posts. The support posts will support the Festool arms and the end of the timber, and the undermount supports on the arms will stop the timber sagging.

(Sorry I don't have a pictures at the moment, but hopefully the above will be clear).


The advantages of this are:

-  The whole contraption can be lifted and moved around the place as one single unit

-  Since there are four points of contact with the ground compared to eight with the Festool system, levelling this Kapex/DeWalt system on undulating ground is much easier.

-  The Festool arms (which each extend out to about 2.4 metres) are very solid and well designed, and you can position the flag stop at any point along them and use the included scale to cut the timer to the desired length. You can buy additional stop flags if you are constantly cutting to different lengths.

-  The Festool arms include an undermount support for very floppy workpieces, and also a support for tall lengths of skirting board/baseboard. You can slide these supports anywhere along the arm and buy additional supports as required.


I realise that it would be quite possible to mount the Kapex and the Festool extension arms to other similar mitre saw stands, but the DeWalt seems to be nicely engineered and gets good reviews. The addition of wheels to the stand would be a useful addition, so that you could just lift one end of assembly and move it around the work area.

I can supply detailed photos of the Festool extensions if anyone needs them, but I don't have the DeWalt stand yet!

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2009, 05:33 PM »
Forrest, I would love to see some detailed photo's of the Kapex extensions.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 06:49 PM »
Forrest, I would love to see some detailed photo's of the Kapex extensions.

Certainly. Here are some I took a few minutes ago.


First, here's a stock photo which gives an overview of the parts (with my own unofficial names). Note that several of the items are now black:




Here is the right-hand extension arm in use, showing the components and a length of 44x18mm pine, ready to be cut with outer stop flag set to 800mm. Note the small clamp and knob at the left-hand end of the extension fence, which secures the end of the tape measure and stops it retracting. The tape sits in a groove along the top of the fence, and can be zeroed to the blade by releasing the clamp. The undermount support slides in a T-slot in the bottom of the fence, and is secured by a knob (not shown). The support projects 138mm from the fence. Additional supports can easily be added for long material.




Close-up of stop flag. It slides in the T-slot in the top edge of the extension arm, is secured by the knob at the top, and has two adjustment screws at the back (not visible) which reduce the "wiggle" of the stop in the T-slot. There is also a ball bearing that engages in one of the holes of the flag to hold it into the down position (the main photo above shows a second stop flag in the raised position, and the ball bearing is visible).




This is the tall material support. It slides in the same T-slot, and is 90mm high and 63mm wide. The total support height, from the bottom of the extension fence to the top of the support, is 143mm, which is taller than the Kapex can cut.




Tomorrow I'll take photos of the far end of the fence, showing the tape measure and how the fence is actually made up of three parts to allow it to extend to full length (about 2.4 metres).

Forrest
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 08:00 PM »
Does the extension get in the way of the tall fence on the Kapex itself? 

Looks like you can not remove that fence section with the Extensions installed.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2009, 12:03 AM »
Does the extension get in the way of the tall fence on the Kapex itself? 

Looks like you can not remove that fence section with the Extensions installed.

That is correct. The Kapex's own tall fence (the one with the green lever) will slide on the top of the Kapex's fixed short fence approx 1" to left and right with the extension installed. However the right hand end of the tall fence will not move beyond the right-hand end of the short fence if the extension is installed.

Having said that, the process of removing the tall fence can be done in only 10 seconds - I timed it just now! My suggested method would be to loosen the large knob that holds the table widener, push the table and extension fence to the rear, slide off the Kapex's tall fence, and then reverse the process.

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2009, 09:04 AM »
Works good like that but, not fun to set up all the time if you are moving the saw around.

Yep, that is true. I'm only in this for my hobby. I have very limited space why the whole festool line of products really appeals to me, since I have to setup and breakdown for each project. I'm working on getting a shed for the garden stuff so I can use the garage a bit more permanent. Don't think I'll get a dedicated wood shop anytime soon so the ability to pack it up is necessary. It is a royal pain, but it works.

I do not have a kapex not even a miter saw so I do not have a good idea on how much space it will take up and if I would be ok with just the mft/3 and the kapex/mft. I really like the mft/3 but is has its limitations which a kapex can cover. The mft/3 is more my all round work table.

If you have both would you mind snapping a picture so I can see how a fence, on the mft/3, could lineup with the kapex/mft ?

Ideally I like the Dewalt solution or the sawhelper (they are in business btw, got their pricelist). That would give good flexibility and also the ability to store it easily. But if I can get room, the shed solution, I could potentially use the mft's to make it a little more permanent. Why I'm still debating on what would be best.

Michael

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 09:05 AM »
Forrest, I would love to see some detailed photo's of the Kapex extensions.

Certainly. Here are some I took a few minutes ago.

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Forrest


Would you mind snapping a picture of how the rail attaches to the kapex ?

Thanks
Michael

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2009, 09:39 AM »
...or the sawhelper (they are in business btw, got their pricelist).
...
Michael,

I sincerely hope you are correct.   However, I think what you got might be an automated response.    I sent a request to Tim with specific question - "When can I get the SawHelper Kapex brackets?"   I hope I get a real response with specifics about availability.  If so, I'll post here.

Regards,

Dan.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2009, 09:41 AM »
...or the sawhelper (they are in business btw, got their pricelist).
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Michael,

I sincerely hope you are correct.   However, I think what you got might be an automated response.    I sent a request to Tim with specific question - "When can I get the SawHelper Kapex brackets?"   I hope I get a real response with specifics about availability.  If so, I'll post here.

Regards,

Dan.

Dan is correct, the price list is emailed out as an auto response.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2009, 09:43 AM »
...or the sawhelper (they are in business btw, got their pricelist).
...
Michael,

I sincerely hope you are correct.   However, I think what you got might be an automated response.    I sent a request to Tim with specific question - "When can I get the SawHelper Kapex brackets?"   I hope I get a real response with specifics about availability.  If so, I'll post here.

Regards,

Dan.

Dan is correct, the price list is emailed out as an auto response.
I really HATE being correct on this issue! 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2009, 09:51 AM »
sawhelper went out of business last december, and who knows if they ever will start back up again.  so at this time there is no brackets available, unless you search on ebay .. but good luck as not that many were made.  I have a set, and had another but gave it to a friend early this year.

which is to bad as the brackets work great on the kapex.  they attach to the crown stop v groove.

you could have a shop make up something that you could attach to a the table top.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2009, 11:14 AM »
for me the festool stand just wouldnt work i have very limited space, some times a chop saw alone is unpractical but the kapex is good because you can have it up flat against a wall [big grin] and due to nature of my work (home improvement and maintanence ) it would cost me money using kapex stand   but if i was wood working i would probably make a stand to my own spec.

even the festool rep said i should buy a dewalt stand over mft/k but whay ever works for you is the main thing and your making money [big grin]

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2009, 11:39 AM »
Works good like that but, not fun to set up all the time if you are moving the saw around.


If you have both would you mind snapping a picture so I can see how a fence, on the mft/3, could lineup with the kapex/mft ?

Michael

I can later today, this week is kind of hectic.  Why is it, that everyone always wants something done right now, this time of year.

I will tear-off and re-shingle about 60 square this week, ughhhhhh....  (then I could get the extensions [cool])

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2009, 01:38 PM »
Yikes, that would suck big time. I didn't consider the auto response, but the pdf sure is from 2008.

If I get time I'll try to give them a call just to check since their product sure looks interesting.

Michael


...or the sawhelper (they are in business btw, got their pricelist).
...
Michael,

I sincerely hope you are correct.   However, I think what you got might be an automated response.    I sent a request to Tim with specific question - "When can I get the SawHelper Kapex brackets?"   I hope I get a real response with specifics about availability.  If so, I'll post here.

Regards,

Dan.

Dan is correct, the price list is emailed out as an auto response.
I really HATE being correct on this issue! 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2009, 01:38 PM »
Cool, thanks.

Michael

Works good like that but, not fun to set up all the time if you are moving the saw around.


If you have both would you mind snapping a picture so I can see how a fence, on the mft/3, could lineup with the kapex/mft ?

Michael

I can later today, this week is kind of hectic.  Why is it, that everyone always wants something done right now, this time of year.

I will tear-off and re-shingle about 60 square this week, ughhhhhh....  (then I could get the extensions [cool])

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2009, 03:57 PM »
Would you mind snapping a picture of how the rail attaches to the kapex ?

It would be my pleasure. I'm using the Kapex and extensions on a job tonight and I'll take some some photos of that aspect and upload them when I come back.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2009, 04:58 PM »
Quote
Yikes, that would suck big time. I didn't consider the auto response, but the pdf sure is from 2008.

If I get time I'll try to give them a call just to check since their product sure looks interesting.

Michael

Please let us know if you get a response.  I think it was March or April since I heard from Tim. 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2009, 07:52 PM »
Yep, that is true. I'm only in this for my hobby. I have very limited space why the whole festool line of products really appeals to me, since I have to setup and breakdown for each project. I'm working on getting a shed for the garden stuff so I can use the garage a bit more permanent. Don't think I'll get a dedicated wood shop anytime soon so the ability to pack it up is necessary. It is a royal pain, but it works.
Michael

Michael

The issues you just enumerated are those of the professional carpenters here as well.   many of their solutions and methods directly apply to everyone else who does not have, or have much, dedicated shop space.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2009, 07:57 PM »
Julian,
But please, we are NOT snobs.  We're fans and connoisseurs.   ;D

Peter

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2009, 08:00 PM »
Yep, that is true. I'm only in this for my hobby. I have very limited space why the whole festool line of products really appeals to me, since I have to setup and breakdown for each project. I'm working on getting a shed for the garden stuff so I can use the garage a bit more permanent. Don't think I'll get a dedicated wood shop anytime soon so the ability to pack it up is necessary. It is a royal pain, but it works.
Michael

Michael

The issues you just enumerated are those of the professional carpenters here as well.   many of their solutions and methods directly apply to everyone else who does not have, or have much, dedicated shop space.
Craig


I do have the luxury of a big garage to do some stuff in but, more times than not, my shop is inside someone's house, in their back yard, garage, front side walk.

I need portability, flexability, light weight, easy set-up and break down, need to keep homes clean, and I need repeatable performance.

That is not much of a list, huh?

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2009, 08:05 PM »
Charimon,

You are a brave poster to admitting to be a snob.  Please forgive my efforts to protect your dignity.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2009, 10:13 PM »
Would you mind snapping a picture of how the rail attaches to the kapex ?

Here you are:

There are three main parts - the Kapex with the V groove at the left- and right-hand sides of the table, the Table Widener (part of the Crown Moulding Stop assembly), and the Extension Fence (part of the Table Extension assembly). The Table Widener clamps onto the V groove of the Kapex by using a large knob under the Table Widener. The Extension Fence has a T slot on the bottom which slides over the rectangular nut on the Table Windener. This nut is tightned by using a small knob underneath.

The following photo shows all three components seperated:




In this photo, the Extension Fence has been attached to the Table Widener, and that assembly is being offered up to the Kapex:




Here is an underneath view of the Table Widener and Extension Fence assembly:




Side view of the above, showing how the V groove is being utilised:




Hope the above answers your question

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2009, 10:44 PM »
Tomorrow I'll take photos of the far end of the fence, showing the tape measure and how the fence is actually made up of three parts to allow it to extend to full length (about 2.4 metres).

As promised, here is a photo of the far end of the Extension Fence.

It can be seen that the fence is made up of three components:

A - This is the main fence, and is 110cm long
B - This is another fence that slides inside A. When extended, the total length of A and B is 215cm. Tightening the left-hand black knob will lock B at any position
C - This is an extrusion that moves freely along B. It can be clamped using the knob on the back. Its purpose is to act as a "ferry", to transport the tall moulding support and stop flag when B is extended.




The following photo shows the back of A, B and C.




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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2009, 11:10 PM »
Thank you for the pics! I finally get an idea how that whole set up works!

On a side note:
How come that such a high priced item (that soo many people are considering buying) is not being pushed by festool USA? I mean come on, how often did people ask for pictures/videos? There is virtually no information on those extensions available...

Thanks again Forrest for your efforts! I hope Festool will honor your work.

Cheers,
Andreas

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2009, 02:05 AM »
Andreas,

I don't know if you remember, but the fence system wasn't even available here when the Kapex was first introduced.  It came later.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2009, 09:08 AM »
Hi Forest,

Thanks for the detailed pictures. That really helps understand how it all fits together. It is also clear how folks have said it is easy to get out off alignment if the far end of the rail is bumped. This is due to the single pivot point on the crown molding bracket.

I looked at the 8020.net profiles they might be used, but only if the spacing to the to bolt is the same. Hard to tell from these pictures. Making your own sawhelper bracket is not worth it since you can bolt on some alu rail on the bottom of the crown molding bracket.

A merge between the dewalt setup and the sawhelper/festool rail would be ideal. One could change the dewalt 'wood' spacer such that one could mount a 8020 rail so it becomes an extension of the fence on the kapex. That way you would get full fence support. A full underside support like the sawhelper could also be done if the kapex, on the dewalt setup is raised just enough to put a piece of ply on top of the supports on each side. That would then provide both fence and bottom support in a collapsible package.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2009, 03:38 PM »
Chris,

Very nice!  I like the tight shape with no excess table hanging around.   I was thinking of a building a table that didn't use the crown stops, but couldn't figure out how to get mounting blocks close enough to the saw bed and still have space for your hands when you drop it in there.    I guess crown stops are the best approach.

Some questions:

What is the thickness of the table?  It looks like 5/4.   

Why solid wood instead of ply?   I have lots of extra 3/4 ply laying about and was thinking of using that.

It looks like the top of wing attachment block is coplanar with the saw bed/crown stop.   Is this correct?  Do you foresee wood expansion being an issue?

How is the table top mounted to the stand?

Thanks,

Dan.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2009, 05:11 PM »
Chris,

Thanks.   It looks like I'll be getting some nice poplar right quick.

Regarding the table top, mine is used and had a custom table top that the original owner used, so I don't know how the original top was attached.  I built a custom SawHelper table top for my Makita LS1016 (which I subsequently returned and bought the Kapex).   Here's a thread describing the process: http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49400&highlight=ls1016.  Post #3 contains pics of the underside of the table top showing how I connected mine to the stand.

One more thing...   If you were going to do it over, what would you change?

Thanks,

Dan.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2009, 10:27 PM »
Chris,

Thanks.  Great info.   Looks like I'm buyin Poplar tomorrow.

Regards,

Dan.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2009, 12:38 PM »
Great stuff. I went ahead and bought this DeWalt stand. Last night I set up my Kapex on the 3/4" pieces and found out that the stand does not line  up with the supports. It looks like the Kapex is about 3-1/2" forward than the supports  for your pieces.
Any thoughts on how to bring them both on the same plane?

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2009, 07:09 PM »
I had the same problem with my makita ls1013, I ended up drilling extra holes into the base of the saw, but I wouldn't do that to my kapex. I got the dewalt stand 1.5 years after I saw it on the dewalt site and knew I wanted it, because it wasn't available here yet; but now dewalt also sells wider brackets, they might fix the allignment issue, or you can mount the saw on a board or some strips first, like Chris Rosenberger did in the startpost, but then you have to modify the supports aswell.

(I haven't used my kapex with the dewalt stand, I mainly like the dewalt stand for ease of setup on uneven ground, but I use the kapex mostly for interior work, and I prefer the festool stand for that)

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2010, 11:47 PM »
I'm reviving a dead thread to show the modifications I have done to my DW 723 stand. 


I just bought the stand this week, and still have to finalize the attachment of the rail to the stand.  I had an extra 1400 rail sitting around, and bought $50 worth of extrusion from Rockler.  They have a sale on L brackets ($0.99/pair) which I used to attach the extrusion to the rail and the t-slot in my crown extension. 

Super ghetto compared to Forrest's setup with the Kapex extensions ( want pics!), but the price was right.  Now I need to modify the production stop and add a tape. 

Anyone else have some tricked out mods to show off?

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2010, 12:46 AM »
hi kevin, is that an fs 1400 guide rail you are using as an extension table?
 do you mind if i ask why?
that seems like a waste of a good guide rail and money.......

they cost over AU$200 down here.

regards, justin.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2010, 12:06 PM »
hi kevin, is that an fs 1400 guide rail you are using as an extension table?
 do you mind if i ask why?

Justin, I can't speak for Kevin, but I always try to find multiple uses for my equipment, especially in the field.  I rarely use the guide rails and Kapex at the same time, so I'm going to bounce off kevin's idea and work on something along the same lines.

thanks Kevin,     Dan

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2010, 01:40 PM »
I have used the dewalt stand with my kapex since day 1, works fine

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2010, 05:43 PM »
hi kevin, is that an fs 1400 guide rail you are using as an extension table?
 do you mind if i ask why?
that seems like a waste of a good guide rail and money.......

they cost over AU$200 down here.

regards, justin.

I bought a bunch of Festools from a widow whose husband had only used for a few months before passing away.   Included was two additional rails which I did not need, but I was getting a good deal on the rest of the tools.  So now I have three 1400's and two 1040(?)'s and the 1400 rail was sitting around collecting dust, and I found a better use for it.  

If you have any ideas for a continuous work support as strong and light as the rail I would love to hear about them.  Then I could sell some of the rails and buy some other goodies.

  When you compare it to a Sawhelper, which is not even available anymore it is still pretty cheap.  
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2010, 10:00 PM »
i dont like tools sitting around gathering dust either, so i guess i would have done the same thing, considering it was a freebe.
regards, justin.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2010, 10:08 PM »
I used to have the dewalt stand when it was first released and began to have issues with the arms dropping in height when extended but when retracted they would sit coplanar with my scms.  i stopped using that stand when i purchased my Kapex and purchased the mft/3 kapex.  i like the setup in a stationary workshop, but i do a lot of shorter term projects that require site setup. 

if you can view the photo that i attached, i recently purchased the bosch gravity rise t4b and i use that stand in conjunction with the kapex extensions.  i will post better photos tomorrow as my saw is on site at the moment.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2010, 10:32 PM »
Daaaaaum, 4 bills for the gravity rise stand and 7 bennys for the extensions and you still have the mft/3 kapex.

Feel free to send me any extra money you find laying around.

I like that bosch stand a lot.  I like the one for my portable table saw.  The only problem is the amount of room
they take up.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2010, 10:49 PM »
if i remember correctly, i paid around $320 or so for the t4b.  i really want/wanted a set of sawhelpers, but didn't jump when i considered it years ago.  i know it is an expensive setup, but this is my day to day...everyday.

this breaks down pretty well in terms of size and setup is fairly speedy.  ultimately, i am pleased...lets just see if festool releases a mobile standv [wink]
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2010, 10:53 PM »
I lug that saw around every day too.  It is one the main ingredients in my process of bringing home the bacon.

I still want to put wheels on my kapex mft/3.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2010, 10:57 PM »
i had no problems with carrying around the mft/3 kapex...i was looking for ease of setup (fences) to get continual repeatability.  the kapex extensions might've been overkill, but i had the jing at the time and had already tried playing with melamine and the kreg fences and wasn't happy with that option either.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2010, 12:07 AM »
I hate my Bosch stand! Those air tires are always low on air... Very frustrating!

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2010, 01:28 PM »
I'm reviving a dead thread to show the modifications I have done to my DW 723 stand. 


I just bought the stand this week, and still have to finalize the attachment of the rail to the stand.  I had an extra 1400 rail sitting around, and bought $50 worth of extrusion from Rockler.  They have a sale on L brackets ($0.99/pair) which I used to attach the extrusion to the rail and the t-slot in my crown extension. 

Super ghetto compared to Forrest's setup with the Kapex extensions ( want pics!), but the price was right.  Now I need to modify the production stop and add a tape. 

Anyone else have some tricked out mods to show off?


I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2010, 01:38 PM »

I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.

The addition of this item may be dependant on where the saw was bought (UK saws don't seem to have it, whilst USA saws generally do). My saw, dated 2007 and bought in the UK, doesn't have it.

See jonny round boy's post in the thread Kapex base is not level for a mention of it, where it's referred to as the "arbor bolt guard". There are also photos of saws which have it and of those which don't.
 
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2010, 02:04 PM »

I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.

The addition of this item may be dependant on where the saw was bought (UK saws don't seem to have it, whilst USA saws generally do). My saw, dated 2007 and bought in the UK, doesn't have it.

See jonny round boy's post in the thread Kapex base is not level for a mention of it, where it's referred to as the "arbor bold guard". There are also photos of saws which have it and of those which don't.
 
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Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2010, 07:30 PM »

Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

What kind of danger is that little bit of plastic going to save me from?

I have yet to have an arbor bolt free itself from a saw and come shooting at my head.

I am not so sure about those UL guys [scratch chin]

I guess we are from the land of suing because our coffee was too hot or our ice cream was too cold. [big grin]

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2010, 07:47 PM »
Darcy,

There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.


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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2010, 08:03 PM »
Darcy,

There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.



I don't understand people that sue for things as mentioned in the previous posts.

I am a smart enough person to know where I shouldn't put my hands, where I shouldn't stand or whether or not my food was
supposed to be hot.  I guess people really can sue for not having any common sense.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2010, 08:17 PM »
There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.

That's it!  It's a dental guard over the arbor bolt to make sure you don't try to eat it.  [scared]

UL comes up with some interesting requirements for sure.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2010, 09:17 PM »

Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

What kind of danger is that little bit of plastic going to save me from?

I have yet to have an arbor bolt free itself from a saw and come shooting at my head....


The guard prevents the bolt from coming out far enough for the blade to come completely off the arbor. This, in theory, would prevent the blade from shooting at your head in the unlikely event the bolt came loose. 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2010, 10:58 PM »
If you want another stand to look at for attaching your Kapex to, look over the Rousseau Miter Stand. This stand has has really impressed me with it's adaptability to the different brand of saws on the market. I purchased one several years ago and haven't regretted the purchase at all. Mobility is unsurpassed especially with the extend and collapsible wings with the fence built to it. This cart is very user friendly for the woodworker.   

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #75 on: November 19, 2010, 11:59 PM »
If you want another stand to look at for attaching your Kapex to, look over the Rousseau Miter Stand. This stand has has really impressed me with it's adaptability to the different brand of saws on the market. I purchased one several years ago and haven't regretted the purchase at all. Mobility is unsurpassed especially with the extend and collapsible wings with the fence built to it. This cart is very user friendly for the woodworker.   

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2014, 10:01 AM »
I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2014, 11:58 AM »
I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?

Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.

Anyway, here's a few of my experiences mounting it to the small DeWalt stand:
- Everything you need to mount a Kapex should come with the stand. Here's what came with mine. (I actually didn't use any of the included hardware though)

- The DeWalt mounting brackets come with 6 and 8mm bolts. The slots on the DeWalt mounting brackets are 8mm. The holes on the Kapex are 6mm. 4x M6 35mm bolts are included.

- When you just mount the Kapex on to the DeWalt brackets you'll notice the legs of the stand will be away from the wall. I wanted it so that both the stand and the back of the Kapex were right against the wall (for maximum space savings). I therefore put the Kapex on a board of 18mm MDF (66cm wide x 61cm deep).


I then put the saw stand right against the wall and positioned the MDF board on to the DeWalt mounting brackets to mark my drill holes. I did some measuring and used threaded inserts for clean and easy mounting of the saw to the board/stand.


The end result is this:


It turned out great. It's stable, the footprint is pretty minimal and I like the weight and portability.
Hope this was helpful to you.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2014, 05:48 PM »
Jonathan M,

SUPER POST!  Thanks for the thorough response.  Very helpful indeed. (Above and beyond with pictures, etc)

I will look harder in my garage for the Dewalt hardware.

I may end up making a mounting plate as you did.



I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?

Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.

Anyway, here's a few of my experiences mounting it to the small DeWalt stand:
- Everything you need to mount a Kapex should come with the stand. Here's what came with mine. (I actually didn't use any of the included hardware though)
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- The DeWalt mounting brackets come with 6 and 8mm bolts. The slots on the DeWalt mounting brackets are 8mm. The holes on the Kapex are 6mm. 4x M6 35mm bolts are included.

- When you just mount the Kapex on to the DeWalt brackets you'll notice the legs of the stand will be away from the wall. I wanted it so that both the stand and the back of the Kapex were right against the wall (for maximum space savings). I therefore put the Kapex on a board of 18mm MDF (66cm wide x 61cm deep).
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I then put the saw stand right against the wall and positioned the MDF board on to the DeWalt mounting brackets to mark my drill holes. I did some measuring and used threaded inserts for clean and easy mounting of the saw to the board/stand.
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The end result is this:
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It turned out great. It's stable, the footprint is pretty minimal and I like the weight and portability.
Hope this was helpful to you.
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2014, 07:24 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 07:27 PM by Grasshopper »
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2014, 08:08 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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you rascal!!!
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #83 on: January 03, 2015, 10:18 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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ahhah thats sooo wrong but looks soo right...nice [big grin]
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2015, 02:15 AM »
 ;D

Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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you rascal!!!

Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

(Attachment Link)

ahhah thats sooo wrong but looks soo right...nice [big grin]
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2015, 05:28 AM »
Grasshopper, that paint job turned out great!
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2015, 09:18 AM »
I think I might steal you paint job idea for myself.
Ct 36, Ets 150/3, OF1400, Lr32 Set, domino 700 set, hl850, ts 75,Dts 400, kapex

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2015, 02:32 PM »
Sounds good.  I will try and locate the can of spray-paint I used.  The color was perfect festal green.

I think I might steal you paint job idea for myself.
Aspiring DIY'er (hence the name "grasshopper" as I am looking to learn from all the masters on the FOG)- TS 55, OF 1400, MFT/3, VS600 Dovetail Jig, MFS700+ MFS2000 extension profiles, Kapex, Kapex UG set, T12 Li set(x2), CT22, Domino, Carvex, RO90, RO150, MFK700, CMS-VL, Qwas super pack & Cool Wife.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2018, 04:50 PM »



Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.


@jonathan-m thanks for posting your Dewalt, Kapex and UG stuff above. I have 2 DeWalt stands and just picked up a Kapex and the wings. I'm sure I read in another post (can't find it now!) that you shortened the legs of the stand... now here's the million dollar question... can you remember by exactly how much? With the legs at and angle and the plastic feet adding their own bit of height into the equation my brain is hurting a bit trying to figure out how much to cut off the legs themselves. By my calculations for my setup (Kapex on 18mm MDF board on the Dewalt brackets) it needs to drop 70mm vertically, but that's as far as I've got. No worries if it's a long forgotten memory, I'm just hoping to save a lot of trial and error zeroing in on it and taking the legs off and on 20 times :/

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