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Offline ecks79

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Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« on: August 04, 2010, 10:56 PM »
Hi guys,

I'm torn between getting the Precisio setup vs getting the CMS TS 55 setup. Apart from ease of not swapping the saw over, (and price) what is the key difference? is accuracy compromised? is there anything else that differs from each machine?

Heres my thinking...

- With the dedicated Precisio setup, i don't get the TS 55 saw, and i would still need to purchase a CMS stand (for my other modules), so getting both these adds a lot to my budget. But if there is a big difference in quality and features im not aware of etc.. perhaps it's worth it?

- I need to buy outfeed and extension table, plus rip fence for the CMS module if i want the bench capacity, making the setup almost as expensive (but again, still need to buy the TS55 etc)... What is the CMS setup like without these? it seems awfully small!
 
Has anyone else gone through the same train of thought? what are you opinions to this?

Thanks for any help you can offer!

Tony



 

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Offline Nigel

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 02:18 AM »


       You could try this.I know Alex got a precisio 70 eventually.He was going to review it.Maybe he'll chime in on this.

      http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/cms-or-precisio/msg98187/#msg98187
« Last Edit: August 05, 2010, 02:21 AM by Nigel »

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 02:21 AM »
I don't own either (I wish...) and I don't know what you're using it for, but there is another option.

Since you already have other CMS modules, how about getting a TS55, and a TS75CMS?

That way, you have a small, lightweight saw (the 55); you have a table saw with increased cutting capacity; you don't have to keep swapping a saw in & out of the module; and lastly, for the odd occasion when you need the extra power & cut depth, you can use the 75 out of the module.

As for the size, I think the CMS is about the same size as the smaller precisio saw, without any of the extensions.

You already mentioned price - I think you could probably get both TS saws and a module for the cost of a precisio (although that's a guess, I haven't looked at the pricing).

All the accessories for the precisio (fences, extension tables, sliders etc) will also fit on the CMS, so no real difference there. The only difference I'm aware of is that the precisio has the 'pull-through' function. You can't have that on the CMS.

Hope that helps!
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Offline justinmcf

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 03:21 AM »
hi tony.

i own the cms-ts 75.

i already own the ts 55 for use with the guide rails.

it sounds like your first priority is a decent table saw.

therefore, i would not waste my money on a tablesaw with a 55mm depth cut capacity.

you should be looking at the larger ts 75.

i use the rip fence which comes standard with the cms. i have been able to rip 6 metre lengths of 140 x 45 treated pine. it is reasonably adequate.

however, i would like to buy the proper "la stopper" rip fence, but for 500 dollars, thats a lot of money for a bloody fence!

the cms is a great tablesaw. i was using it today without a dust extractor.
if you ever use it like this, make sure you remove the dust extraction hoses which connect to the saw.
these clog up, and the saw housing clogs up very quickly too.
when used with any festool extractor, it is a joy as 95 percent of the dust is collected.

i used a bucket today without any hoses attached. this worked great, 70 percent of the dust was in the bucket and i had a small clean up at the end of the day.
normally i would use an extractor but sometimes you have to compromise on site.

i highly recommend the cms, as you can also use it with the jigsaw, sander and router attachments.

it is a lot of money, so you need to be sure it is the right tool for your particular needs.

justin.

 

Offline ecks79

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 03:40 AM »
Thanks all! VERY helpful indeed... i've decided on the CMS.

1 question, can i buy the CMS TS 55 package, and later fit a TS 75 saw if i find it need it? or will the TS55 module not hold a 75 saw?

Thanks again guys!

Tony

Offline justinmcf

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 03:49 AM »
hi tony.

i recommend giving anthony a call.

idealtools.com.au  in melbourne.

you could also try vektools.com.au in sydney.

by the way tony. why dont you change your profile so we can see which state you are from. 

it makes it easier to answer some questions!

justin.

Offline Michael_MA

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 05:06 AM »
Thanks all! VERY helpful indeed... i've decided on the CMS.

1 question, can i buy the CMS TS 55 package, and later fit a TS 75 saw if i find it need it? or will the TS55 module not hold a 75 saw?

Thanks again guys!

Tony


There is one noticeable difference between the TS55/75 in an CMS configuration to the CS50/70 models.. it's the splinter guard, which is incorporated on the CS saw models and it does a great job on both cut sides.. This splinter guard is very effective, as it also travels with the saw when using the pull saw model.. it is user replaceable and costs around 20? for 5 peaces..  If you cut high volumes of coated materials, this splinter guard is a serious point to consider.

kind regards, Mike
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Offline Nigel

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 05:31 AM »
Thanks all! VERY helpful indeed... i've decided on the CMS.

1 question, can i buy the CMS TS 55 package, and later fit a TS 75 saw if i find it need it? or will the TS55 module not hold a 75 saw?

Thanks again guys!

Tony


       The module are saw specific as far as I know.I think Justin's advice is spot on.

Offline iandoug

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 05:59 AM »
The main thing you need to consider IMO, is whether or not inserting the T55 into the CMS module and then removing it to use it with the guide rails, becomes too onerous, time wise.  Personally, I have a CS50 Prescio and a T55 with a guide rail and I think they complement each other.  I have a table saw ready to go at an instant and I can cut sheet materials with the T55/guide rail at an instant

Offline ecks79

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 06:16 AM »
OK Updated profile :-)

Thanks Justin, i had exactly those concerns about the 55 vs 75... and that is whats started my inability to make a decision :-) then came budget... and everything got blurry from there ;-)

I decided, there is another option for ripping 75+ timber, track and saw... but when i get a job that needs it (and justifies the additional expense) then ill do it then.

This is just a hobby for now, i don't see me needing to rip anything much over 30... if i turn out to be any good at this cabinet stuff, then i can get serious about getting some more gear :-)

Thanks a bunch though, it has certainly helped me with my decision and ill be going down to place my order on the weekend... so thanking you!!

appreciate all your help guys!

Tony
 

Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: Precisio CS 50 vs CMS TS 55 setup
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 07:15 PM »
I think that, as a tablesaw; the CS50 is much more practical. I don't have one, but I do have a CS70 for over 7 years now; and it seems the CS50 has all the same features, allthough less powerfull and in a smaller (and lighter) package.

Apart from the pullsaw functionality, and the splinterguard already mentioned, blade changing is much more practical, and the bevel-angle and cutting depth are easily dialed in without reaching underneath the table  (the carriage can be locked in the front position for this purpose)