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Offline Chinski

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Got a TS55 two weeks ago brand new but on a really great offer, and only really used it last weekend in earnest.  I was cutting 2mm veneer strips from a 45mm deep plank of pine approx 2m long (using the parallel guide extensions - which are excellent for this btw - attached to the rails).  First cut went okay, second cut took longer - and third cut the thing just jammed up half way along and I had to wait for it to cool down.  CTL dust extraction in place and I was not pushing it at all but it was clearly operating at the edge of its envelope from the first cut.

Yea, the ts 75 costs more and is heavier - but I don't intend backpacking with it, and I could really do with the extra features not to mention a motor that can cut strips from soft wood without needing to rest every few seconds...

It was perfect for 18mm ply though.

Is this just my experience or was the above to be expected?

Thanks



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Offline RKA

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2019, 08:17 AM »
Use the correct blade (rip blade).
-Raj

Offline Chinski

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2019, 08:38 AM »
Use the correct blade (rip blade).

Yep, you may well be right Raj - but I was still surprised that the machine actually jammed instead of getting the job done albeit slowly. 

Offline Sanderxpander

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2019, 08:45 AM »
A ripping blade is way cheaper than a TS75 and you'll have no problem at all with cuts like these.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2019, 09:28 AM »
I use a TS 55 to rip 6/4 Texas Mesquite (Janka Hardness 2,345 lbf or 10,430 N) without any problems.

Of course, I use the 12 tooth ripping blade.  Makes a big difference.

For what it's worth, I also have a TS 75 but only use it for thicker cuts.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 09:31 AM by deepcreek »
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Offline RKA

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2019, 09:58 AM »
Use the correct blade (rip blade).

Yep, you may well be right Raj - but I was still surprised that the machine actually jammed instead of getting the job done albeit slowly.

It didn't "jam", it sounds like the thermal protection kicked in and shut it down since you're saying it ran fine after a cool down period.  The blade and cut directly relates to the load placed on the motor.  Lots of people have commented about the thermal protection kicking in while using the 48 tooth blade (on thick stock and rip cuts).  And those same people have noted markedly better performance dropping down to the 28 (or whatever the general purpose is) or dedicated ripping blades.  It's one thing if you want a new tool or have some other purpose for the 75, but for the current job you describe, the 55 will do it.  Buy and aftermarket ripping blade off amazon and just try it.  Small investment and you might be pleasantly surprised.
-Raj

Offline Sanderxpander

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2019, 11:01 AM »
If you use a non-Festool blade be careful about using it on the rails as it probably won't align with your splinter strip.

Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2019, 11:49 AM »
Yes I agree, sharp blades, and the correct type of blade are paramount with the performance of any tool.

Incidentally, I have three plunge saws, the  Festool TS55, the Mafell MT55CC and the Makita 601 Cordless.
Just an opinion but, my personal favourite is the Makita. It’s a lovely saw with good power and it suits me.
Nothing wrong with the other two which are both corded, the Festool is great no issues at all, the Mafell is also superb and probably the best designed of the three but, the Makita is my current favourite.

I would also suggest running your 55 with the right blade, before jumping to get the 75

Offline Kevin D.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2019, 11:56 AM »
Got a TS55 two weeks ago brand new but on a really great offer, and only really used it last weekend in earnest.  I was cutting 2mm veneer strips from a 45mm deep plank of pine approx 2m long (using the parallel guide extensions - which are excellent for this btw - attached to the rails).  First cut went okay, second cut took longer - and third cut the thing just jammed up half way along and I had to wait for it to cool down.  CTL dust extraction in place and I was not pushing it at all but it was clearly operating at the edge of its envelope from the first cut.

Yea, the ts 75 costs more and is heavier - but I don't intend backpacking with it, and I could really do with the extra features not to mention a motor that can cut strips from soft wood without needing to rest every few seconds...

It was perfect for 18mm ply though.

Is this just my experience or was the above to be expected?

Thanks

You'll still discover that when cutting thin strips the TS75 suffers with dust collection.  What can help is also using a larger hose, but you still will get dust, just not as much.
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Offline Svar

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 12:12 PM »
Use the correct blade (rip blade).
At the expense of cut quality.
The very reason I got a track saw was the ability to do finish / glue ready cuts with a) compact and portable machine and b) no joiner. That's why I have TS75. If I need to use a 12 tooth blade to make it through the cut I might as well use a regular circular saw and a straight edge.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 12:18 PM by Svar »

Offline Paul G

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 01:19 PM »
I’m not sure the described situation means a 55 sucks, but the 75 sure is nice. I had a 55 which was replaced with a 75 when the recall happened years back and I’ve really liked it.
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Offline demographic

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 01:28 PM »
The number of teeth makes a huge difference to the power needed for a cut. Same thing with chainsaws and thats why some of the people using very long chainsaw bars run skiptooth chains.

For anyone who struggles with a cut and feels they need more power, just swap blade to one with less teeth.

Festool kind of brings it on themselves by having a 48 tooth blade which is pretty power hungry.

Offline RKA

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2019, 02:01 PM »
Use the correct blade (rip blade).
At the expense of cut quality.
The very reason I got a track saw was the ability to do finish / glue ready cuts with a) compact and portable machine and b) no joiner. That's why I have TS75. If I need to use a 12 tooth blade to make it through the cut I might as well use a regular circular saw and a straight edge.

Okay, he doesn't have to go to a 12 tooth, he can try the 28 tooth since it's pine.  Glue ready is achievable.  Finish ready is a debate I would rather avoid. 

The point is he has the tool and it can do the job nicely.  Reading his subject line is like listening to my neighbors condemn their cars because it didn't do well in the snow and trade them in.  If you just put the right tire on it for the conditions, you might find it actually doesn't have any problem in the snow.  And the circular saw/straight edge?  Add some rolls of masking tape and a broom/dust pan and have at it!  Not for me.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: So anyway, the Miata sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a Jeep.
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2019, 04:32 PM »
Got a Miata two weeks ago brand new but on a really great offer, and only really used it last weekend in earnest.  I was racing on a wet clay course.  First lap went okay, second lap took longer - and third lap the thing just jammed up half way along and I had to wait for a tow truckMud flaps in place and I was not pushing it at all but it was clearly operating at the edge of its envelope from the first cut.

Yea, the Jeep costs more and is heavier - but I don't intend backpacking with it, and I could really do with the extra features not to mention an engine that can drive all four wheels at once...

It was perfect for pavement though.

Is this just my experience or was the above to be expected?

Thanks

Offline RKA

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2019, 04:40 PM »
Hahahaha!   [tongue]
-Raj

Offline Svar

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2019, 04:59 PM »
Funny, Michael  [big grin]
While I believe in using the right tool for the job, the fact remains - TS55 has the least power of all track saws in its class (Bosch, Makita, Mafell, Triton, Dewalt, etc.).
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 05:08 PM by Svar »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2019, 05:06 PM »
Before getting distracted by the Miata analogy I was going to say the behavior sounds like the pitch from the pine gumming up the teeth of the blade. Once you get a little pitch on the teeth they gather more faster. And the saw doesn’t have the power to push that many sticky teeth through that much wood.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2019, 05:12 PM »
Yeah, pine pitch is a b*tch.  But I totally support the OP's decision to buy another tool  [big grin]

Before getting distracted by the Miata analogy I was going to say the behavior sounds like the pitch from the pine gumming up the teeth of the blade. Once you get a little pitch on the teeth they gather more faster. And the saw doesn’t have the power to push that many sticky teeth through that much wood.
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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2019, 05:30 PM »
But I totally support the OP's decision to buy another tool  [big grin]
Only if it's in addition to, not instead.

Offline jarbroen

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2019, 01:50 PM »
Once you get the 75 and get rid of the 55 you'll be looking for an excuse to buy a cordless 55... :)

That's what happened to me.  I started with the 55 cutting ply and it worked great.  I needed to rip 8/4 hardwood and the 55 protested.  Instead of getting the right blade I sold the 55 and bought a 75.
The 75 has cut a lot of solid hardwood for me and works great.
Then I picked up a t18 set and started thinking a cordless 55 would be great since I have the batteries now...
Thanks recon sale, then I had to buy one.

The cordless 55 is AWESOME!  I wouldn't use it for hardwoods but it kicks butt when you are cutting sheets of ply.  No need to drag around a cord or hose.  The dust bag works really well if you empty it often enough.
I used to swear at the cord and hose when cutting sheets with the corded saws.  Now it's awesome - just plunk my saw down and go.
The cordless also has a bit more grunt than the corded version.  I've noticed it flies through 3/4" BB or 'armor core' ply. 

Short answer - the 75 is great for thick stock, but beware it's not as great with dust control especially on the edge of material.
Also, you'll probably need to get another blade for the 75 if you want to cut ply.  The stock 28t blade on the 75 caused some chipout on the veneer when I tried cutting ply.

Offline tallgrass

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2019, 02:21 PM »
 [big grin] That is funny about the cordless 55. I have 2 75s and a 65. I picked up the cordless 55 and I unexpectedly love it. It fills a niche perfectly.

Offline Alex

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2019, 03:23 PM »
I have the older TS55 and though it has its uses, I am totally not satisfied with this particular Festool, it just bogs down too many times. Luckily I have a few other saws in my arsenal as back up, so I manage, but when this thing kicks the bucket I am getting me another tracksaw from another brand. Mafell, Bosch, Makita, not sure which one because I haven't done my research yet, but I am surely not getting anywhere near something with "Festool" and "55" on it again.

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2019, 04:14 PM »
[big grin] That is funny about the cordless 55. I have 2 75s and a 65. I picked up the cordless 55 and I unexpectedly love it. It fills a niche perfectly.

While we are in the Easter mood, please a pict of your 65  [big grin]
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2019, 04:16 PM »
I have the older TS55 and though it has its uses, I am totally not satisfied with this particular Festool, it just bogs down too many times. Luckily I have a few other saws in my arsenal as back up, so I manage, but when this thing kicks the bucket I am getting me another tracksaw from another brand. Mafell, Bosch, Makita, not sure which one because I haven't done my research yet, but I am surely not getting anywhere near something with "Festool" and "55" on it again.

I bet some cheese and wine would change your mind  [tongue]
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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2019, 07:04 PM »
@Alex , the tracksaw arena has changed immensely during my time here.  Patents have run out and it is like the "wild west" out there.  Not any one tool will work for each us the same way it works for the next guy.  I appreciate all your efforts here helping  unknown how many people!  I hope you find what will work for you.

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Offline ScotF

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2019, 08:45 PM »
The cordless 55 is an awesome machine and I really like it - I also have the 75 - so best of both worlds. The 55 is light and nimble and plenty of power for cuts in thick hardwood. Plywood is a breeze. I have 2 sets of batteries so never without power. It is my go-to saw when I do not need the depth of the 75. I highly recommend it.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2019, 09:31 PM »
Give the TSC 55 a test drive. It’s pretty sweet. I own both the TS & TSC and the cordless version has more power.  I am pretty disappointed with the TS. The TSC makes me smile.

The 75 is a great saw but it’s big and heavy, kind of like using that 8 1/4” worm gear saw. Lots of power...lots of weight.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2019, 11:01 PM »
I have the Ts-75 and it works great.
Then I got the cordless -55 and love it , big cuts when needed with the -75and light weight when the -55 is in use.
Get both lol .
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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2019, 12:32 AM »
@Alex , the tracksaw arena has changed immensely during my time here.  Patents have run out and it is like the "wild west" out there.  Not . . . . . .

Peter

How true @Peter Halle - Bunnings our biggest Hardware Chain down here is now selling track saw versions in AEG and the really cheap Ozito brand. The laters tracksaw has 1200W, 2 rails @ 700mm and 2 clamps all for $A189. The clamps look very similar to Festool's. That price is around 11% of the price we pay for a TS55 and as such will attract 'very' ocaisional users.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-165mm-1200w-plunge-track-saw-kit_p6290615
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Offline Blues

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2019, 11:55 AM »
Good decision to go with TS75. Sell the 55 and stick with the 75. You will seldom have a situation that you can't handle. Yes it is marginally heavy. So what? its going to sit on the rails.

Point is this: you want to have the least number of tools that can help you do most number of jobs. You will also spend the least money with this approach. Ofcourse there are compromises like dealing with additional weight.. but its not much and its worth it.
TS75 hands down wins.

Similarly the 700 domino is a no brainer. Its bigger than the 500 but a much better machine. So well balanced and with the seneca adapter wonder why anyone would buy the 500.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2019, 12:42 PM »
Having used and/or owned both the TS55, TS75, DF500 and DF700, I agree the weight difference between the TS55 and TS75 is marginal because you are sliding the saw most of the time on the track. Unless the price difference between the saws is a key factor, the TS75 is the preferred choice.

I disagree, however, with the suggestion that the DF700 is as easy to use and control as the DF500. The weight difference between a DF700 and a DF500 is larger than that between the TS's, for one thing. And in use, we are holding and not sliding the machine.

For a small batch of mortises, the heavier weight in a DF700 may not matter (esp. if you have stronger arms), but easily we can be cutting hundreds of mortises, and the cumulative effect is a different story. Of course, if the longer and larger dominoes are what you need, you have no options but to get the DF700.

If double or twin dominoes can meet the joinery needs, even if the price difference is not a factor, I would not want to "abuse" my arms (holding, positioning, and pushing) day in and day out for no added benefits. I find the larger DF700 more straining to use than the DF500, a point also shared by at least two Festool-trained employees at my local store (both are taller and have stronger arms than I). I do not find the higher position of the handle (DF700) a benefit in use vs the handle on the DF500 that is more or less in line with the centre of the cutter.

It is also easier to handle narrower and smaller pieces with the DF500 than the DF700 on some occasions -- trying positioning the DF500 vs DF700 using the intersecting lines technique, and you will understand my point.

Having built tables, cabinets, ladders (and working on chairs now) with no plans for making any exterior entrance doors, I can't foresee benefiting anything from having a DF700 in my work. If a circular saw does the job, why get a wormgear saw is my usual reasoning. (For the record, I can afford owning BOTH the DF500 and DF700 if I want to, as some other members here do.)
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 03:48 PM by ChuckM »

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Offline Chinski

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2019, 04:00 PM »
Similarly the 700 domino is a no brainer. Its bigger than the 500 but a much better machine. So well balanced and with the seneca adapter wonder why anyone would buy the 500.

Sooooo true.  I got the Seneca 10mm plate and a cheaper 3rd party bit extender and haven’t looked back. Spent all day Friday making an 18mm storage unit with 6mm dominos and its a pleasure to use. Looks a beast fully loaded with Seneca plate, df stop and the side guide extenders...

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2019, 08:45 PM »
I have had the 55 for maybe 10 years and have ripped hundreds of feet of nearly everything, all with one rip blade sharpened many times.

Some people just have no clue what blade to use...……
BW

Offline ChuckM

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2019, 08:50 PM »
Snip.

Some people just have no clue what blade to use...……
BW

The same can be said of some table saw users. I have come across table saw owners who complain about burn marks and bogging down, and blame everything on the power of their saws. They use a combo sawblade for everything.

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2019, 09:50 PM »
Posted this before......used the wrong blade on purpose.



Tom

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2019, 10:38 PM »
I disagree, however, with the suggestion that the DF700 is as easy to use and control as the DF500. The weight difference between a DF700 and a DF500 is larger than that between the TS's, for one thing.

I’m with Chuck on this one.

I own the TS 55, TSC 55 and the TS 75. The TSC is used 80% of the time, the TS 55 10% of the time because it may be more convenient and the TS 75 10% of the time.

I also use the DF 500 90% of the time and the DF 700 10% of the time.

I grab the CXS drill 80% of the time and a Milwaukee M18 drill 20% of the time.

The common denominator in all of these examples is physical size and weight. The smaller & lighter the tool is, the more pleasant the user experience is.

I also own a 19# Milwaukee 1854 drill with a 3/4” chuck. I could use it for drilling 3/16” diameter holes in wood.......but why would I? 
I’d rather use it for augering 7” diameter holes in soil for fence posts.



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Offline ChuckM

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2019, 05:45 PM »
In my case (if I also owned a DF700), it were 99% DF500, 1% DF700.

By the way, I am pretty sure balancing and aligning for the slim three-way mitres (completed about five years ago) would be easier with the DF500 than with the DF700.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 05:50 PM by ChuckM »

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2019, 05:51 PM »
You know, the tools people feel comfortable depend on how they use them, what they use them for, and what other tools and workbenches they use them with. For example, I own a TS55, Domino DF500, Domino 700XL. I wouldn't use the Domino 700 for much of anything except very large projects. It's just too large and unwieldy for most furniture and drawers. The 700 certainly has some design superiority but, for standard size furniture projects, the 500 is much easier too be precise with. I also had, at one point, had the TS75. Since my use was mostly on the MFT and not for cutting extra thick wood, I found the 75 was cumbersome to use and abandoned it for the TS55 which, for me, works extremely well.

We should never forget that there is not one single design of tool that works for everyone.
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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2019, 06:21 PM »
I definitely did not realise my TS55 sucked [tongue]  Do you need to use it for more than 10 years before you realise it sucks?

Just because it's a soft wood doesn't mean it will be easy to rip cut. A nice old dry hardwood might rip fine with a 48 tooth blade if you go slowly, but a fresh softwood timber might quickly jam the blade with all it's fresh stringy fibres. For ripping your'e just better off with a rip blade.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2019, 09:30 PM by mrB »
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2019, 06:46 PM »
Snip.

We should never forget that there is not one single design of tool that works for everyone.

If there were, all dominoes/tenons would only come in ONE size (and not in so many sizes to choose from, not counting the shop-made ones). [tongue] :P
« Last Edit: April 24, 2019, 06:57 PM by ChuckM »

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2019, 11:11 PM »
If you don't want to invest in a good rip blade then think about buying a decent bandsaw.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2019, 12:36 AM »

Just because it's a soft wood doesn't mean it will be easy to rip cut. A nice old dry hardwood might rip fine with a 48 tooth blade if you go slowly, but a fresh softwood timber might quickly jam the blade with all it's fresh stringy fibres. For ripping your'e just better off with a rip blade.

And some here may not realise that some species of 'hard' wood are actually softer than some 'soft' woods. The definition of soft or hardwood is related to how a species of timber reproduces. Hence Balsa wood, to the surprise of many, is a hardwood.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/question598.htm

As to the merits of the TS55 mine cuts Australian Eucalyptus such as Mountain Ash which is very dense. The choice of a sharp blade is the main consideration - rip blade for ripping, standard for cross cutting. And steady as she goes.
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Re: So anyway, the TS 55 sucks - who knew?! I'm getting a 75.
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2019, 02:41 PM »
Some people just have no clue what blade to use...……

Well, yes Bob, I admit that if I had had a ripping blade then I would have had a very different experience.  But in the end, I am glad that this made me swap because, as Blues says:

Point is this: you want to have the least number of tools that can help you do most number of jobs.

I don't have a surplus of cash or space - so the above approach makes sense for me.   

I have done a couple of jobs recently that have necessitated the full depth of cut the TS75 and the stock blade seems good enough for both smooth cross cuts and longer rips. 

I fully agree that the TS75 is heavier to use than its smaller brother - and this goes for the Domino 700 XL with Seneca adapters.  And if I had the cash for both versions of both (and/or the TSC) then I'd be with you who don't agree. 

Maybe I should start a go fund me page ;-D

Thanks