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Offline leakyroof

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2019, 12:40 PM »
If you have a local Festool dealer I’d recommend buying from them. For the most part, Festool enforces pricing so you won’t save anything buying from Amazon and it’ll make it easier if you happen to need any customer service.

Also remember to buy some Festool abrasives with your sander. The hole patterns that Festool uses is different than what you’ll typically find from 3M, Norton, etc...


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Yes that’s my intention....the vacs I’m trying out will be from Amazon. I’m giving Toolfest a call later as they have some good pricing and only sell Festool products. Unfortunately I can’t take advantage of the 10% discount from Festool as it only applies to US customers...but pricing from Toolfest is quite competitive.
Yes I’ll get some Rubin’s to start with as I’m only stripping back a table and bed for the moment.

If there is ANY type of Finish on that Bed and Table, don’t use Rubin as it will clog. It’s meant for Raw Wood. Old stocks of Cristal and Brilliant 2 along with current Granat will handle prefinished material.  Cristal and Brilliant 2 have been discontinued by Festool but you might find some old stock at a discount over current Granat prices to save money starting out.
 Brilliant 2 was used by many of us as the All Around Abrasive from Festool before we got Granat since it handles raw wood sanding and finished material.
Cristal was great for fast stripping but tended to leave scratch patterns you ended up sanding out with higher grits.

What Finish is in your Table and Bed...Lacquer, Shellac, Oil. Paint?, or Varnish?
Not as many Sanders as PA Floor guy.....

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Offline Dva99999

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2019, 10:58 PM »
If you have a local Festool dealer I’d recommend buying from them. For the most part, Festool enforces pricing so you won’t save anything buying from Amazon and it’ll make it easier if you happen to need any customer service.

Also remember to buy some Festool abrasives with your sander. The hole patterns that Festool uses is different than what you’ll typically find from 3M, Norton, etc...


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Yes that’s my intention....the vacs I’m trying out will be from Amazon. I’m giving Toolfest a call later as they have some good pricing and only sell Festool products. Unfortunately I can’t take advantage of the 10% discount from Festool as it only applies to US customers...but pricing from Toolfest is quite competitive.
Yes I’ll get some Rubin’s to start with as I’m only stripping back a table and bed for the moment.

If there is ANY type of Finish on that Bed and Table, don’t use Rubin as it will clog. It’s meant for Raw Wood. Old stocks of Cristal and Brilliant 2 along with current Granat will handle prefinished material.  Cristal and Brilliant 2 have been discontinued by Festool but you might find some old stock at a discount over current Granat prices to save money starting out.
 Brilliant 2 was used by many of us as the All Around Abrasive from Festool before we got Granat since it handles raw wood sanding and finished material.
Cristal was great for fast stripping but tended to leave scratch patterns you ended up sanding out with higher grits.

What Finish is in your Table and Bed...Lacquer, Shellac, Oil. Paint?, or Varnish?
Noted...the bed and table are waxed.

Offline leakyroof

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2019, 08:08 AM »
Hah, Wax, the one thing I didn’t think of...  [embarassed]
You might be okay with it, I’ve never tried Rubin on a Waxed piece before, so I don’t know. You could always bum 1 disc off a supplier and try it out before committing to an Abrasive. Here in the US however, most commercial Festool users stock only Granat for themselves and their kits since it handles such a wide range of materials.
Not as many Sanders as PA Floor guy.....

Offline Dva99999

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2019, 06:25 PM »
The more I look into this the more I steer towards the Rotex....I didn’t realise when I initially asked the question the number of options Festool do.
And to think I almost bought a Mirka Deros!!

Offline leakyroof

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2019, 07:23 PM »
The more I look into this the more I steer towards the Rotex....I didn’t realise when I initially asked the question the number of options Festool do.
And to think I almost bought a Mirka Deros!!
. I own two Rotex Sanders, 150 and the smaller 90.  Please try them and the other Sanders out in person before mentally committing to a Rotex.
My EC Sanders WILL strip finishes, even with the smaller 3mm orbit on my smaller EC 125.
I’ve neatly removed ancient Varnish and Oil Stains off doors in my home and not suffered much time by not pulling my Rotex out unless the Rotex is really called for.  As a bonus, my hands weren’t tired like they would have been using a Rotex in Rotex mode to strip the finishes off.
Also, I can strip vertical trim/ casing, baseboards, as long as the pad sizes fit the project.
The EC Sanders are that powerful, even with a smaller orbit. You just use Coarse Abrasives like 40grit or 60 grit Granat and Saphir.
Not as many Sanders as PA Floor guy.....

Offline Dva99999

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2019, 11:33 AM »
Having looked at the videos I have narrowed it down. Unfortunately getting a dealer to let me have a go at the two I’ve narrowed it down too is proving to be a trial in itself. Nobody has them in stock or nobody is calling me back. I ordered the Rotex 150 from one company based on their stock (and they were the cheapest) only to be told the online info was wrong and they don’t stock it!! I like the Rotex 150 because after stripping down a table and bed, I like the fact I can polish afterwards using same unit. I also find it would be helpful when I start the car restoration from start to finish. I’m not yet at the stage to go in and buy two units but in time that may well be a possibility.

Offline terry314159

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Re: New person looking for first (proper) sander
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2019, 03:55 PM »
I bought a Festool 574993 ETS125 sander. I coupled it to my Dyson 23 canister vacuum with a 10’ x 1 3/16” OD Dust Collection Power Tool Hose with Fittings supplied by Peachtree Woodworking Supply through Amazon ($20). The adapter fitting allowed the one hose end to connect perfectly to the sander and the other adapter allowed the hose to make a tight press fit into the end of the Dyson hose. I added an Automated Vacuum Switch supplied by iVac through Amazon ($50) that automatically cycles the Dyson on/off as I use the sander. I strapped the switch to the Dyson for convenience. The switch is not required but it is nice to have. The whole system works perfectly for my home maintenance jobs. In preparation for painting, I just finished sanding down all my wife’s kitchen cabinets with so little dust she was able to use her kitchen during the project.