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Offline mattbyington

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[Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:03 AM »
First "real" piece of furniture.

I designed it in Sketch up, trying some new things:

1) Sliding doors at the bottom
2) 2 Drawers on top
3) Splayed legs

We'll see how it goes!

Matt


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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2019, 01:04 AM »

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
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Offline tallgrass

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2019, 02:51 AM »
Love it. Do you find the foam holds up?

Offline JPCleary

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2019, 06:14 AM »
What's the tray you have on the side of the MFT with the foam in it?
Not a professional, just a DIY festfool with apparently too much money on his hands -- Kapex120 | TS75 | OF1400 | CT26 | ETS EC125 | Carvex PS420 | CXS | Vecturo | MW 1000 | x2 MFT3 | UG Stand w/ wings

Offline AndrewG

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2019, 06:21 AM »
Looking good. How do you find the fence dogs? I’ve been considering them myself.
Cheers

Offline montyss

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 07:06 AM »
Your Table is looking Great …
But the rack holding the lower bike where did you get that it looks interesting ...

Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2019, 07:20 AM »
That's coming along nicely. I love walnut, it's a beautiful grain and lends itself to so many applications. Wenge is another of my favourites.
Your workshop is looking very nice  [thumbs up]

Offline TSO Products

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2019, 05:17 PM »
Matt - your project draws attention on a number of points. Look forward to seeing how it comes together. Your pictures are obviously welcomed by all.
how did you go about learning SketchUp? - we're evaluating the addition of some quality woodworking oriented SketchUp training material to our Books and Plans section. I've seen a lot of tutorials and even printed material I would rate not better than marginal.

Your comment on that?

How about adding an image of a 3-D view of the SketchUp Table design?

Hans
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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 07:51 PM »
Hans, good idea, Ive been interested in learning Sketch up. Im pretty inept at technology. I dont even know where to get sketch up at.

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2019, 09:05 PM »
a tiny bit off topic but here goes:
we have been looking for at different SketchUp training resources for quite some time because of the terrific appeal for woodworkers and the very low cost.
So I finally found something that we are currently evaluating as suitable for sale. Looks good and will most likely be up on our website next month. To be notified when it's up on the website for viewing and ordering, email to info@tsoproducts.com
Subject line "SketchUp training interest".

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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 11:48 AM »
@tallgrass I think you mean the foam in the aluminum trays on the side? It holds up very well and I love it!

@JPCleary here you go!

https://www.rockler.com/dust-free-shop-trays

@AndrewG I love them! Awesome products! I bought two pair as you can see. I find 4 dogs hold the fence extremely rigid with 0 flex. With only 2 it *sometimes* would flex in the middle if I tried to clamp a board to it or something.

@montyss here you go!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MJCSBJ4/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thank you @Jiggy Joiner ! I love walnut. Wenge looks good but the dust is too much for me :)

@TSO Products thank you sir! Will do! I learned by watching a lot of Jay Bates tutorials online, and Matthais Wandel. After watching their tutorials, and following along, I just played with it a LOT. I think the more you use something the better you get at it. I could watch for hours but without actually doing it myself, I found it challenging.

I do think a course would be good too. I could even help if you want! I feel like I could at least teach a super introductory class.

@jobsworth you should man! I am more than happy to FaceTime you or Webex (video conference) or something for an hour if you're interested. I honestly think after 1 hour, you would just "get" it and it would make a ton of sense to you.

@TSO Products sounds cool man! I will do that.

Thank you all for the interest!

Offline tallgrass

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 02:38 PM »
I am glad the foam is working for you. I have problems with it becoming a dust trap and a kind " of funk sponge". I shifted to solid surface in my shop. Your work and process are excellent.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2019, 10:22 PM »
@mattbyington

Do you use the free version?

 I downloaded it played with it and It was chinese arithmatic to me. Thats right nice of you to wanna help me with it.

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 12:16 PM »
@tallgrass wow thank you for the kind words! Appreciate it!

@jobsworth yes the free version "Sketchup Make".

If you want to send me a PM with some times you are available we can get on the phone and walk through it. Are you on PC or Mac? I am on Mac.

We can do 30m this Sunday if you want.

Matt

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 02:39 PM »
I am on a Mac to. That would be great to get with you. Right now I'm a bit under the weather. Lemme get through this bug and Ill Pm ya.

I really do appreaciate your help

Thanks a lot

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2019, 08:28 PM »
2 more parts then I can start on the joinery!

Matt


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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2019, 03:52 PM »

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2019, 04:23 PM »
Ok all pieces cut and most joinery done.

Glue up soon, then making the drawer and sliding drawers.

Matt


Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2019, 04:25 PM »

Offline RKA

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2019, 09:17 PM »
It’s looking good @mattbyington , I can’t wait to see it all done and in its place.  I’ll bet you’re wishing you had more clamps!   [tongue]
-Raj

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2019, 10:46 AM »
Thank you @RKA !

My plan is to glue it up in parts, not at all once. However the angle on that one side will pose a bit of a challenge.... and also the way I constructed it, doesn't lend itself to that mostly because the right side is a piece spanning from top to bottom, so I can't just glue the top up and then plonk it on the bottom.

We'll see.

I need to cut the grooves for the sliding doors, make the sliding doors, do some edge work (round-overs etc) and then can do the glue up(s)!

After that I just need to make the drawer.

INFORMAL POLL

1) Stick with Black Walnut for the Sliding doors on bottom and Drawer face on top
OR
2) Go with a contrasting wood like Cherry for both??

Matt

Offline RKA

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2019, 11:15 AM »
It's personal preference I think.  I do like the look of all walnut, but maybe if you have a dark wood floor and other wooden finishings it's a little too much and lightening the design with some Cherry mixed in might work better?
-Raj

Offline neilc

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2019, 11:34 AM »
Nice work - The design looks very unique.

I think I'd stick with walnut for the complete piece.  It's such a wonderful wood. 

Not sure about how you are gluing up, but consider wood movement.

It appears you might have dominos on cross grain joints, and I would be concerned about wood movement potentially causing cracks in time. 

Thanks for sharing the build!

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2019, 11:52 AM »
Thanks @RKA ! I'll change it in Sketch Up and see how it looks.

Thanks @neilc ! I'm not too concerned about wood movement but we'll see how my decision works out :)

This is an inside piece - so it'll be at 70 degrees (F) pretty much year round as the home is heated or cooled - so I don't think the wood will move much.

I know there are differing opinions on this. My decision is to not worry about it.

If it cracks or breaks, it'll give me an opportunity to build a newer better one!

Hopefully more pictures to come by this weekend!

Matt

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2019, 09:55 PM »
Okay lower doors made - I chose cherry. Joinery is done and started on some of the roundovers and such. Planning a big glue up for tomorrow! Took it all back apart and sanded each piece to 220.

Matt


Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
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Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2019, 10:16 PM »
This is an inside piece - so it'll be at 70 degrees (F) pretty much year round as the home is heated or cooled - so I don't think the wood will move much.

Temp is not the thing in your situation Matt, humidity is. Keep an eye on the humidity. There are humidity controls that self regulate themselves depending upon the outside ambient temperature.

I believe you’re in Cali so you may luck out with the humidity situation.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 10:38 PM by Cheese »

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2019, 01:14 AM »
@Cheese yes sir I am thanks! That makes sense! I'll keep an eye out for it.

The glue up is going to be tricky. Today I labeled all the pieces with a 1 a 2 or a 3, on which sequence of the glue up they will be in.

Part 1 will be glued up and then as a unit slotted into dominos in the entire right side piece - that way once the glue dries, we will remove the right side piece and add glue but we know that the glue that has already dried (the 3 pieces in sequence 1) will still fit in the dominos of the second glue up.

My fiancee had a really good idea to use wax paper but poke the dominos through (for the dry component of sequence 1) so that it won't stick.

Matt


Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 21] Solid Walnut Front Entry Table
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2019, 10:45 AM »

Part 1 will be glued up and then as a unit slotted into dominos in the entire right side piece - that way once the glue dries, we will remove the right side piece and add glue but we know that the glue that has already dried (the 3 pieces in sequence 1) will still fit in the dominos of the second glue up.

My fiancee had a really good idea to use wax paper but poke the dominos through (for the dry component of sequence 1) so that it won't stick.


Good call for alignment purposes.  [big grin]

I've used wax paper with epoxy on raw wood and the wax paper peels right off.   [smile]