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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Other Tools & Accessories => Topic started by: Birdhunter on July 09, 2019, 05:36 AM

Title: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Birdhunter on July 09, 2019, 05:36 AM
I was watching New Brit Workshop video on mounting drawer slides. As usual, I learned a lot and was entertained by the excellent video.

Peter mentioned a certain type of screw that was designed just for drawer slides. It has a thick body with aggressive threads and a small head.

I’ve looked everywhere but can’t locate that type of screw.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Jiggy Joiner on July 09, 2019, 05:48 AM
@Birdhunter Hi there, they are known as
“Draw Runner Screws (Euro Screws) Flat head Countersunk”

Over here they are obviously readily available, for your side of the water maybe try Amazon. I know Amazon UK sells them, so perhaps Amazon US will too.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: GarryMartin on July 09, 2019, 05:48 AM
They're called Euro Screws. There was a thread here recently where Seth was trying to locate Torx versions.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/building-materials/anyone-know-of-torx-5mm-hinge-screws/

Widely available in the UK and EU, not so sure about where in the US but I'm sure @SRSemenza or others will be able to point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Jiggy Joiner on July 09, 2019, 06:04 AM
Found this if it helps:

https://www.amazon.com/Rok-Hardware-Cross-Screws-Fasteners/dp/B01LY32ZMG/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=drawer+slide+screws&qid=1562666581&s=gateway&sr=8-4
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Peter Halle on July 09, 2019, 07:02 AM
@Birdhunter here ia a link to Woodcraft:  https://www.woodcraft.com/products/6-x-1-2-highpoint-european-slide-screws-undercut-flat-head-phillips-drive-zinc-100-piece (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/6-x-1-2-highpoint-european-slide-screws-undercut-flat-head-phillips-drive-zinc-100-piece)

If you search elsewhere use undercut in your search perhaps.

Peter
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: GarryMartin on July 09, 2019, 07:09 AM
@Birdhunter here ia a link to Woodcraft:  https://www.woodcraft.com/products/6-x-1-2-highpoint-european-slide-screws-undercut-flat-head-phillips-drive-zinc-100-piece (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/6-x-1-2-highpoint-european-slide-screws-undercut-flat-head-phillips-drive-zinc-100-piece)

They're not EURO screws Peter. These are EURO screws...

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Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: rvieceli on July 09, 2019, 07:22 AM
@Birdhunter here's a few on Amazon

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=euro+screws&i=tools&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Rockler

https://www.rockler.com/flat-head-pozi-drive-euro-screws

Woodcraft

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/5mm-x-13mm-highpoint-euro-screws-flat-head-pozidrive-100-pc

Ron
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Sparktrician on July 09, 2019, 07:23 AM
McFeely's (https://www.mcfeelys.com/5mm-x-10mm-in-euro-in-mounting-screws-nickel-plated-flat-head-pozi-drive-qty-100-8fn42.html) is a good source for the "real" Euro screws. 
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: thudchkr on July 09, 2019, 07:23 AM
I get them from Woodworker’s Hardware, https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/1767/s/pozi-drive-system-screws-sc6-3/, they market them as Pozi Drive System Screws. Designed to go into a 5mm hole and available in seven different lengths.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: RKA on July 09, 2019, 11:10 AM
I use truss head screws.
https://www.rockler.com/drawer-slide-mounting-screws-truss-head-phillips (https://www.rockler.com/drawer-slide-mounting-screws-truss-head-phillips)

One thing I never really understood is why you would use the euro screws with the tapered head for drawer slides which are typically flat.  It doesn't harm anything, but the screw doesn't sit flush.  The truss head are flat on the understand and sit flush against the slide bracket.  But maybe there are slides where the wider head becomes an issue?  I've only installed typically BB side mount slides.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: kcufstoidi on July 09, 2019, 12:21 PM
The undermount slides and system these screws were designed for use the 32 mm spaced x 5mm dia holes typical found in predrilled gables. The proper screws fit the 5mm hole with no mods and also sit in the slide flush with little or no protrusion that could interfere with the slide operation.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Peter Halle on July 09, 2019, 02:56 PM
The screw link I posted prior was for an applicable screw if drawer slide mounting was not to be dependent on using the 32 mm hole system.  Sorry for any confusion.

Peter
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Jiggy Joiner on July 09, 2019, 06:20 PM
@Peter Halle To be fair, if you google “Euro screws” it does chuck up a few variations.
I’ve heard them called a few things, “Kitchen hinge screws” “Stubby’s”  “Stub screws”
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: BoulderAv on July 10, 2019, 02:01 AM
They are called Euro screws. They are mostly used with European style drawer runners. If using them in a runner go with the ones from the manufacturer of your system such as these for Blum users https://www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-deep-thread-system-screws-7-x-10mm.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=google_product_ads&source=googlebase&country=US&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9pDpBRCkARIsAOzRziudNFpTl_E-zqtfUdAuXd9eEmuItHfDygs9-D8cuQ1H10EnwoWvdQMaAtZ0EALw_wcB If using these style of screws in another application go for the generic ones you will save a ton of money and it will not matter if their tolerances are not in line the rest of the brand’s systems.
Title: Re: Drawer Rail Screws
Post by: Jiggy Joiner on July 10, 2019, 05:10 AM
Yes they are called Euro screws, but the confusion is there are various types of head, length, and gauge etc. Also some are stainless steel some are not. And to add to the confusion, some suppliers list them by other names.

Screwfix over here, list them as “Hinge screws” so you have to make sure you’re buying the right type.
I’ve never even thought about them before, we have lots of them, which are supplied by either a company we might of bought a kitchen from, or a supplier of cabinet furniture.