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Offline Jimdude

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2016, 11:57 AM »
The Makita wins all independent tests, or scores a tie with the Festool. OK, I'm pretending the Mafell doesn't exist with this summary. And I'm ignoring the conclusions where the Makita is considered on par/better, but preference still goes to the Festool due to the plug-it and the 'system' you're buying into with the rails and all (but then of course you're ignoring the price-point).

If we're going to pretend the Kapex stories on the FOG are anecdotal (of which I'm convinced, BTW), then surely we must give the SP6000 the same benefit of doubt. It is simply either on par or better, at a lower price.

Do be aware that the Makita rail clamps are a crime against humanity (*). When I discovered the Besseys - which also fit in MFT-holes, unlike the Makita ones - are actually cheaper, I wept a little. And bought the Bessey clamps. Along with some Bessey quick-clamps, as a matter of fact. (Then my wife wept when she found the invoice)

Also be aware the blade diameter is 165mm. "White labelled" offerings for this size are far and few in between, but what's more, if you do fit a 160mm blade (I've used Festool blades on mine  [big grin] for laminated stuff), the scoring function obviously no longer works since the blade drops 2,5mm too short.


(*) I'm actually convinced I've been sold counterfeited copies; they're that bad.

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Offline glass1

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2016, 08:57 PM »
and the magnet needs super glue on what  so the the makita is junk cause it needs super glue  I am just saying ...  Laugh at yourselves  you run every non festool down the road and overlook every festool shortcoming just sayin...

Offline StanB

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2016, 02:55 AM »
I think the makita I had for three years before I got my ts55 was great. I cut everything from plywood to solid surface with it and never missed a beat. I mainly switched over because of the plug it, safety, and system approach of the ts. Can't really say anything bad about it.
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Offline Rip Van Winkle

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2016, 04:47 AM »
Has anybody had their Makita SP6000 go "Kapex" on them or know someone else whose has? By "go Kapex" I mean has the motor burned out. There are some complaints amongst the Amazon 1 & 2 * reviews that mention motors releasing the unfortunate smoke, but I haven't found mention of it on various forums when I tried looking and it seems like the kind of thing that would have been mentioned if it were a problem.

Offline Holmz

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2016, 05:48 AM »
I have only had the Mafell/Bosch rails and the MT55.
What is all the fuss about?  [wink]

Offline Jozsef Kozma

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2016, 06:26 AM »
Has anybody had their Makita SP6000 go "Kapex" on them or know someone else whose has? By "go Kapex" I mean has the motor burned out. There are some complaints amongst the Amazon 1 & 2 * reviews that mention motors releasing the unfortunate smoke, but I haven't found mention of it on various forums when I tried looking and it seems like the kind of thing that would have been mentioned if it were a problem.
No it does not happen to Japanese tools , they are immune to tool failitures
If it happens they don't get reported just get fixed and even denied when asked

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Offline demographic

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2016, 12:19 PM »
the makita has more power period its a fact. It has more capacity its a fact. The scoring function and the anti tip are a convenience its a fact. The saw is hundreds of dollars less its a fact. The cord is too short its a fact. Whatever you guys are smoking you need to share !

When I bought my TS55 the Makita was about thirty quid cheaper.
I would have had to pay more than that to get a T-Loc box to go with all the rest of my T-Loc boxes (mostly containing non Festools) and I'm just not interested in old style Systainers so the Systainer style Makita box can go whistle.

Offline mwahaha

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Re: Makita SP6000
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2016, 03:53 AM »
I prefer the ts55r to the makita.

Although when setup perfectly with a sharp blade the makita makes a better cut then the festool. The reason for this is that it has a much much harder guidance system, alloy rail groove against alloy base on one side and alloy rail groove against reasonably hard plastic on the other. When its adjusted snugly you can't wiggle it at all. Unfortunately it doesn't stay perfectly set up for long. Like others have said the adjusting screws for the cams (they aren't even cams by the way, just a type of spreading washer) vibrate loose fairly quickly, and the little plastic washers that tighten it to the rail wear out reasonably quickly. Some people might not mind replacing reasonably cheap plastic washers fairly regularly, and adjusting it to the rail every day, but it bugs me.

The 55r has a much stiffer base/tilting assembly, and doesn't bind several times when you try and tilt it to set a bevel.

Festool blades really do stay sharper longer than the makita ones, because the makita has more aggressive blade geometry, which may have something to do with the perception that the makita has far more power. The CLAIMED power difference is only 8%, cutting 42mm thick solid core doors I don't notice that much difference between them, for sure the makita is a bit more powerful, but I don't feel like its enough to matter.

My makita's base is badly grooved by the rails, and its not even, I had to adjust the saw because it wasn't cutting square anymore.

The bevel tip lock is a waste of time. You can't actually use it to cut because it is very loose in its little rail lip. Why would you want to leave your saw beveled on the rail? I take my saws off the rail when I'm not cutting because its easier to move the rail around without the saw on it. If the 55r is beveled I just sit it on its side on the bench.

Maybe in the US where the makita is considerably cheaper than the 55r there is a more compelling argument for buying the makita.
I saw a promotion a few weeks ago for the makita with 2 1400 rails, 2 clamps (rubbish ones) and connectors for a similar price to the 55r with 1 rail. I feel the price difference is small enough and the 55r is that much better that its a no brainer.

However, as with everything, your mileage may vary.

Makin' chips since ages ago