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Offline Rob Z

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need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« on: May 06, 2019, 10:38 AM »
I need a cordless circular saw and see there are about a zillion options on the market. [scared]  I'm not locked in to any brand because of existing batteries (my only cordless drills are old Festool 14V) .  Any recommendations or any strong dislikes? I need this saw to do nothing more than break down lumber and sheet goods at the store so I can fit material in my vehicle for the ride home.

Thanks for any comments.

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Offline PaulH99

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 11:50 AM »
Makita makes several models of circular saw that might be worth considering. There's a brushed model that is available for $99 (tool only) but takes smaller 6.5 inch blades. The brushless version is usually around $199. Their dual-battery "36v" saw is brushless and will accept the more common 7.25 inch blades, but it's considerably larger, heavier, and of course, more expensive.

I started buying Makita's battery tools 10-15 years ago when they first brought out Lithium batteries. The other vendors, notably DeWalt and Milwaukee have higher capacity and/or higher voltage batteries, but my basic 18v system from Makita is still chugging along with no issues at all.
-Paul
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Offline nvalinski

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 01:21 PM »
Followup on the Makitas, if you need it for ripping sheet goods with good portability, their new saw has the ability to ride on tracks. Model number XSH08Z.

Offline PaulH99

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 01:54 PM »
That's interesting! I wasn't aware of that model and its ability to ride on a guide rail. It's a pretty big price difference though; The regular 36v 7.25" XSH06Z is under $200.
-Paul
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Offline RKA

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 03:06 PM »
That's interesting!.  The only thing they missed is no provision for a bag to catch the dust. 
-Raj

Online Jiggy Joiner

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 04:09 PM »
I have the 18 volt and 36 volt Makita brushless circular saws, mine get used frequently, and worked hard quite often and I can’t fault them.
I’ve heard good things about the Milwaukee 18 volt but, no first hand experience of it, only the Makita’s.
They will both operate with a rail but, the adaptors are very expensive for what they are.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2019, 04:13 PM by Jiggy Joiner »

Offline pixelated

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 08:40 PM »
I have the DeWalt 20v 6 1/2 in. saw, it has worked well for me. I've used it with the blade completely buried in 4x4's to cut and notch them. Reasonably accurate long cuts aren't difficult if you're using it with a suitable guide. It has no provision for dust  collection, but I don't think any of the small battery saws do.

Offline epicxt

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 08:47 PM »
I’ve had the Milwaukee 18v Fuel circular saw with a 6 3/4” blade for the last year or so. Haven’t pulled out my older slightly larger corded framing saw since I made the switch. It fits in a Sys II with a spare battery and charger and I can frame all day if necessary with that setup. I picked up the Fuel Sawzall and the Surge hydraulic impact driver at the same time. It’s my go-to system for rough work.


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Offline Rob Z

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 11:07 PM »
Thanks for the opinions posted so far.  [smile]

I had a cordless Milwaukee circular saw years ago, and its was just OK as far as the cutting power. It sounds like cordless saws have come a long way since then.

Offline epicxt

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2019, 01:21 AM »
Yup, advancements in battery tech and the emergence of brushless motors has really changed how site work is performed.


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Offline Pnw painter

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 02:03 AM »
Even though you’re only looking for a saw at the moment, it’s probably wise to partially base your decision on the entire range of tools that a  mfg’s battery platform offers.

If you don’t already have a track saw, it’s seem like the Makita XSH08Z would be a great choice because you could use it as a track saw or a circular saw. I haven’t tried one, but it seems like a great concept.

A friend just bought a Milwaukee Fuel circular saw (I’m not sure which model). It looked like a well designed saw and I liked that it had an integrated rafter hook.


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Online Jiggy Joiner

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2019, 04:13 AM »
Just to clarify, both of my Makita circular saws have dust ports and rafter hooks.

Offline cubevandude

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2019, 09:13 AM »
This saw would be another option:Makita DHS680Z 18V LXT Brushless
Has the brushless power and the track options too.

Offline polarsea1

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2019, 01:28 AM »
I have an 18v Bosch I bought only because it was on sale and I have many of those Bosch 18V tools. I hate the right hand blade and don't recommend the saw at all. If I weren't so cheap I'd toss it and find another solution.

Offline 72chevy4x4

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2019, 11:00 AM »
I'll share my poor experience w/ the 18v Milwaukee fuel-it's a great saw when it works but the electronics are wonky.  Sent the first one back and the second one came back doing the same as well as a second saw I purchased did the same :(   I can feather the switch and sometimes get it going but othertimes it works 100%.  Think it's a heat issue, when it's hot outside it's more likely to mess up and when it's cutting difficult materials (like wet PT) it's cuts out. 

Offline demographic

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2019, 02:39 PM »
I sometimes seem to spend my time on here saying that not all Festool drills are brilliant blah blah blah but this is one time I would say go for the Festool HKC, possibly just the saw then upgrade to the crosscut rail eventually.
It really is a revelation compared to whatever Makita, De-Walt, whoever else has to offer.
Its a rare few days when it doesn't come out of my van and many of the guys I work with really rate it above normal circ saws.
Its been worth every penny I spent on it.

Offline Samo

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2019, 03:37 PM »
I would use a hkc as my full time off the track cordless saw if it was available in a blade left version.

Offline demographic

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2019, 06:20 PM »
I would use a hkc as my full time off the track cordless saw if it was available in a blade left version.

I bought the basic version without the rail but just as a stopgap til I bought the 420 crosscut rail, it is far and away my most used saw now. I have a TS55 and it hardly ever comes out of the van nowadays.
I hardly use it off the tracks, just the odd time.
Long cuts are done on the old style FS1400 rails and less than 420mm cuts on the FSK420 rail which is a total gamechanger for me.
Doubt I'll ever buy the 250 rail and the 670 rail doesn't look likely either.

Offline m. lindholm

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2019, 06:15 PM »
Are you looking for rail ripping use, or freehand?  I've got the 1st generation Milwaukee M18 Fuel 7.25" saw, and the Dewalt FlexVolt tracksaw.  I like the flexibility of them being cordless, so I can bring them to the big-box store to cut down wood to fit in my vehicle, and have done that for both dimensional lumber and sheet goods.  The Dewalt is kind funky though with it's parallelogram plunge mechanism, so off a track it's a little awkward to plunge and keep straight.  It works, just not as smoothly as the pivot on most other brands.

Even a 5-3/8" blade saw can crosscut nominal 2x lumber, so that's not a limitation for your needs.  Would you be taking a track to the store too, for more accurate crosscutting/ripping?  Lowes and Home Depot both generally have panel saws, so that should be unnecessary.  Menards, and other non-national chains may not be so equipped.

Offline Cheese

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2019, 07:22 PM »
Here are a couple of recent threads that talk about the TSC & HKC. They may be of some interest.

I've cut a lot of cement board with the HKC. Real nice saw. HKC vs TSC that's a close call. [smile]  Corded TS...that's dead last compared to these cordless models.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/festool-tsc-55-li-battery-vs-cord/msg579507/#msg579507

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/tsc-55-blade-marks-in-aromatic-cedar/msg579310/#msg579310

Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2019, 10:22 PM »
I have built 3 full houses with a makita 36v saw.
Great saw , I don’t carry my corded saw anymore.
I also have the tsc-55 and hkc saws, love the rail saw and am getting used to the hkc saw with rail.
Other than my compressor, my entire job is cordless.
They all have their place.
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Offline Rob Z

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2019, 11:13 PM »
This saw is mostly to be used to cut 2x material and occasional pieces of plywood so they are more easily handled when loading at the lumber yard or HD. 

I kept my TS-55 (corded) and would really like the HKC except that I have no Festool 18v tools and I wouldn’t use it enough to justify spending $800+ for the set with the rail and the batteries. 

I did stop at HD the other day and saw a DeWalt saw (don’t recall the model number) and it felt pretty good in the hand.  I didn’t like the way the Makita and the Milwaukee models felt although that is purely a subjective evaluation and maybe I would like them if there were an opportunity to use them before deciding.

I did go old school not long ago and I was set up in the parking lot at the lumber yard, and cut down some primed 1X material with a handsaw.  I looked up and saw two young employees looking at me, with that same look on their faces that my son had one time with he saw my old vinyl albums for the first time. 

Uhhhh, what’s that man?  [big grin] [big grin]

Thanks again for all the suggestions so far.



Are you looking for rail ripping use, or freehand?  I've got the 1st generation Milwaukee M18 Fuel 7.25" saw, and the Dewalt FlexVolt tracksaw.  I like the flexibility of them being cordless, so I can bring them to the big-box store to cut down wood to fit in my vehicle, and have done that for both dimensional lumber and sheet goods.  The Dewalt is kind funky though with it's parallelogram plunge mechanism, so off a track it's a little awkward to plunge and keep straight.  It works, just not as smoothly as the pivot on most other brands.

Even a 5-3/8" blade saw can crosscut nominal 2x lumber, so that's not a limitation for your needs.  Would you be taking a track to the store too, for more accurate crosscutting/ripping?  Lowes and Home Depot both generally have panel saws, so that should be unnecessary.  Menards, and other non-national chains may not be so equipped.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2019, 04:24 AM »
"Uhhhh, what’s that man?  [big grin] [big grin]"

It's the latest innovation in cordless tools. Look Ma, no batteries!  :)
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Offline CADru

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2019, 02:03 PM »
I need a cordless circular saw and see there are about a zillion options on the market. [scared]  I'm not locked in to any brand because of existing batteries (my only cordless drills are old Festool 14V) .  Any recommendations or any strong dislikes? I need this saw to do nothing more than break down lumber and sheet goods at the store so I can fit material in my vehicle for the ride home.

Been using a Milwaukee Fuel 18v 7 1/4 circular saw (2731) for a while now. I prefer my sidewinder blade on the right side of motor. Plus this saw is a work horse, no issues, no complaints. I still carry my.... wait for it... yes, my B&D 8 1/4' Super Sawcat corded circular saw. Its my final build of parts from 2 other Sawcat saws. This baby has some miles on it it but, only gets used on 4x4, 4x6, 6x6 landscape ties. That's like maybe 3x/year.

Milwaukee owns the battery tech, for that IMO they are the leader in the portable battery tool market. I own Dewalt as well but Milwaukee is my fav.
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Offline epicxt

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2019, 06:52 PM »
Wow, was over doing some little projects at my parents place (100 mi away) and needed to cut some metal track for some barn door hardware. Realized I had left my old early ‘90s Makita worm drive saw with an abrasive cutting disc in it from the last project. Just about fell over when I grabbed it. Not sure how I heaved that saw around for so long. Must weigh close to 20 lbs. Got the job done, but reminded me of how spoiled we are now!


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Offline Cheese

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2019, 12:01 AM »
Just about fell over when I grabbed it. Not sure how I heaved that saw around for so long. Must weigh close to 20 lbs. Got the job done, but reminded me of how spoiled we are now!

Ya that's funny... [smile]  I've had a diamond blade mounted on my Milwaukee 8 1/4" worm gear for the last 15 years for cutting small stone projects. The other day I was cutting drip kerfs in bluestone caps and was amazed by how much the thing weighed. Actually I  was shocked at how heavy it was. I used to one-hand that thing all the time. What happened?  [eek]

Offline rst

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2019, 11:21 AM »
I'm with Cheese on pickup shock, my 8 1/4" is a 30+ year old Skil.  And like his a diamond blade lives in it.  Used it last year to cut out block to enlarge a commercial steel door and frame.  Holding that beast vertically is definitely masochistic.  Bought a dust collection attachment to reduce the dust level but still went home looking like a baker that fell into the flour.

Offline BoulderAv

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2019, 03:43 AM »
The big thing with battery tools is picking one platform and sticking with them. Once you get a few batteries you can start buying bare tools which will save you a ton. Pick whatever feels good in your hand and see if there are good combo deals going on. The newer brushless drills are great and worth picking up at the same time to take advantage of their discount in a combo. Personally, everything is Milwaukee for me, but any of the major brands are great.

Online Jiggy Joiner

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 03:52 AM »
I didn’t like the way the Makita and the Milwaukee models felt although that is purely a subjective evaluation and maybe I would like them if there were an opportunity to use them before deciding.

Rob, just a thought, did the saws that you picked up have batteries fitted, or were they bare units?
Our 18 v and 36 v brushless saws are stored on the vans without batteries, and when I grab one from the van, it feels odd and unbalanced. As soon as the battery/batteries are added, it’s a different story and they’re very comfortable. It’s obviously more noticeable with the 36 volt.

Offline Rob Z

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Re: need recommendation for cordless circular saw
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2019, 10:23 PM »
Wow, was over doing some little projects at my parents place (100 mi away) and needed to cut some metal track for some barn door hardware. Realized I had left my old early ‘90s Makita worm drive saw with an abrasive cutting disc in it from the last project. Just about fell over when I grabbed it. Not sure how I heaved that saw around for so long. Must weigh close to 20 lbs. Got the job done, but reminded me of how spoiled we are now!


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I still have and occasionally use my grandfather's old-old-old Skil Model 77.  Built like a bulldozer and weighs about the same LOL.  I've yet to bog that thing down as long as I keep a sharp blade on it.