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Offline DynaGlide

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Oneida's new Supercell collector
« on: June 20, 2019, 01:55 PM »
https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/awfs/awfs-news/oneidas-new-supercell-dust-collector-delivers-8x-static-pressure

Looks like I might finally get a dust collector in my small shop. To be released next month.
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Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 04:10 PM »
That looks interesting.

Offline RKA

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 04:13 PM »
That's interesting.  Can you post more info when it becomes available?  I'm curious about the CFM specs.  This seems like an updated version of their Dust Cobra which will work on a range of hand held tools and machines.
-Raj

Offline Svar

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 04:23 PM »
Looks like modified Dust Cobra
https://www.oneida-air.com/industrial-dust-cobra-full-unit-hepa-2-stage-vacuum-17-gallon
245 CFM at 23" WC, Maximum Suction 70" WC
It's a shop vac on top of cyclone, no magic there. I'd be surprised if Supercell is any different.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 04:57 PM by Svar »

Offline live4ever

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 05:18 PM »
Interesting.  If it’s also quieter than a traditional collector I’ll buy one immediately.
Current systainer to productivity ratio:  very high

Offline RaptorScrew

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2019, 02:53 PM »
We'll see how this goes - Just delivered this week.  Will set up this weekend and go from there.

Offline JimD

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2019, 02:25 PM »
Interesting but more specifications are needed.  Like how much current does it draw?  More static pressure equals less airflow.  That is why shop vacs don't flow what DCs are.  Oneida may have made a good tradeoff and produced something really interesting but, if so, where is the data?  I am skeptical.  My HF 2hp DC only gives me about 400 CFM at the table saw hooked with 5 inch metal pipe almost all the way.  That works but is not overly powerful.  I don't know how much lower would work but my 100 CFM shop vac did not.  If it is like the 245CFM dust cobra it would probably not work so great.  And I need more air at my CMS and planner, I think, they are not hooked up yet. 

I am skeptical that anything 120V with high static pressure capability flows enough for the larger tools.  The capability of just moving a hose around and hooking up any tool in the shop is interesting I am just not sure it has the CFM for bigger tools.  I suspect it is a super shop vac - like the dust cobra.  That is not terrible but if that's what it is, I think a DC and shop vac are still required to cover the range of shop tools I want to use. 

Offline RKA

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Re: Oneida's new Supercell collector
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2019, 07:38 PM »
Jim, I am as skeptical as you.  It seems like this would work well for small shops, while minimally meeting the demands of a machine with a 4” port.

Their specs indicate 5hp, 17A, 230V, 415cfm @ 3” WC.  The link below has the specs under the specs tab.  In the pictures of the unit, cycle to the last picture and they provide a chart that will provide a better sense of the airflow as the size of the port on the tool changes. 

I think if I had portable machines with 2.5” ports and smaller, this would be the ticket with 350 cfm of airflow, but matching or slightly exceeding a vacuum or DE with 1.25” ports.  I agree with you, at 4” and larger ports it’s a tough sell, unless the smaller size of this all in one cyclone meets a requirement.

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-collectors/new-systems/supercell/supercell-high-pressure-14-gal-hepa-cyclone-dust-collector
-Raj