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Offline advrope

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New Workshop
« on: September 01, 2011, 05:35 PM »
Built using TS 55 as the main workhorse, OF 1400 and 300 for cut-outs around the poles.  Had to use a Makita 16-7/166'' beam saw until I vcame across a Protool UniverS SSP200 EB which made the Makita feel like a blunt vegetable knife thereafter.

Offline Alex

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 05:51 PM »
Nice space. So what do you make in there, submarines?

Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 05:57 PM »
Alex, I would like to build a boat when the economy completely implodes, but actually I want to work on really long wooden poles and laminated sections up to 16metres.

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 07:58 PM »
Impressive looking shop.  You make mast pole then?

Wouldn't mind hearing more about what you do... photos, too, please!
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Offline Festoller

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 04:18 AM »
Very nice!

Can you give us more information on the construction and structure.

I can't figure out how the foundation and framing is done exactly?
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Offline mattfc

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 05:12 AM »
building looks great... would love some more pictures.. and bigger ones!

Offline mparka

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 10:01 AM »
This looks like a multi-million dollar mansion. Impressive building.  I would like to see what you build out of this building as well.

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 01:55 PM »
Very nice!

Can you give us more information on the construction and structure.

I can't figure out how the foundation and framing is done exactly?


The Framing to me looks like this.      The Metal wire going around I believe is for structural reasons as well as a design aspect.   The wire is creating two cross bows either side this in affect stops the building swaying/moving side ways with out the need of frame work or gallow bracket internal of the building.     
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Offline woodguy7

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 03:05 PM »
Very nice, what a cool place to come to work.  Welcome to the FOG by the way  [big grin]
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Offline WarnerConstCo.

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 11:14 PM »
Looks like a different take on the common post and beam.


Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2011, 08:17 AM »
Very nice!

Can you give us more information on the construction and structure.

I can't figure out how the foundation and framing is done exactly?


The Framing to me looks like this.      The Metal wire going around I believe is for structural reasons as well as a design aspect.   The wire is creating two cross bows either side this in affect stops the building swaying/moving side ways with out the need of frame work or gallow bracket internal of the building.  
 

Absolutely right along with observations regarding a different take on a post and beam construction.  We design and fabricate structures in the adventure industry so I wanted the building to reflect our work from a design point of view, but offer practical advantages at the same time.  We use poles a lot so the idea of using them as the posts seemed a natural progression.  We sank concrete piles and then craned the poles into position over the piles mounting them on a steel shoe.  By running rigging wires between the poles and down to temporary ground anchors we could tension the various wires to adjust and maintain the basic shape of the skeleton.  With that in place, we could then hoist the huge cantilevered beams into place using  a couple of manual chain hoists (we did low tech to keep the cost down).  Once the main roof beams were complete we could switch the temporary guy cables to the structure and keep it all braced up.  This also allowed us to finish the roof completely so that thereafter the building was relatively under cover.  We did not use any scaffolding because it kept getting stolen from site so access was on climbing ropes attached to the pole tops using Jumars.  The poles above the roof are eminently practical because they now gives us a perfect facility for the R&D side of our developments.  We are always trying out new aerial concepts and elements, and now we can use the pole structure for connection points.  An elevated office is going up at the same time - also built on poles.  The office is suspended, treehouse like and we will add a suspension bridge from the office roof connecting the workshop, to allow easy access.  A couple of you have requested more pics of the structures plus some of the stuff we will fabricate inside.  I am willing to post, but need some guidance on this since the limitation on file size has perplexed me.


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Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 12:30 PM »
Very nice!

Can you give us more information on the construction and structure.

I can't figure out how the foundation and framing is done exactly?

Thanks to Peter, I am having a go at attaching a couple of re-sized pics.  The pic of the basic frame is pretty clear - with the roof complete before I started framing the walls.  At this stage it is still temporary wire rope stays (guy wires) attached to ground anchors holding the shape. 
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In the pic showing the bracing, you can see the build-up - the vertical pole is mounted on top of a concrete pile cap.  The main floor beams cantilever and the brace that runs up to the cantilevered roof beam is a tubular pipe (low tech again to keep costs under control, but it does the job). 
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In the elevation shot through the trees, you can see the cladding is up with clerestory windows.  On the right of the pic you can see the office building going up on poles (bit overexposed, sorry).  We will connect the office and the workshop at roof height with a bridge giving enough clearnace for heavy vehicles below.

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Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 01:02 PM »
This looks like a multi-million dollar mansion. Impressive building.  I would like to see what you build out of this building as well.

I attach a few typical projects.  Our main problem has been that we do too much in the field and not enough production before heading out to site.  That is the difference really with buying a Festool product because you start to realise all sorts of possibilities that had not previously occurred to you and creativity is enhanced.  Our industry was always rough and ready in the past but is becoming increasingly sophisticated.  First up is a typical, older style rope course.

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This pic is  a kid's outdoor adventure playground.  We don't like plastic things as a rule, so try to keep things organic.  Kids like wood, it is warm and tactile.

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The third pic is a multi-level, indoor adventure maze.  I have used laminated larch instead of poles.  I had a mill in Romania make them up, but unfortunately, they completely ripped me off sending only a portion of the consignment after I had paid in advance  >:(  Some problems with de-lamination, but I have read that the Russians use Hydrogen Peroxide to pit the Larch before laminating so I will look into it.  This installation is actually in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, so I am going to play around with some coconut poles for a future trial - they look fantastic and machine really well.  Festool are not well represented out in South East Asia.  The local "agent" simply sources from a Singapore "distributor" who carries very little stock of anything, so we pretty much have to buy in Europe and ship ourselves.  Local tradesmen drool over our tools when they see them.

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Offline mattfc

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 08:59 AM »
ADV Rope, where are you based, says on your Profile Malaysia, but the pictures don't compute with my time out there?

Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 11:57 AM »
ADV Rope, where are you based, says on your Profile Malaysia, but the pictures don't compute with my time out there?

Hi mattfc,

I am based in KL and we have a more conventional workshop in Sungai Buloh.  We install, however, all over the world, so the project pics will vary according to the country they are installed in.  The new workshop is being built in the UK South East to service the European market - so the landscape should be partially recognisable to you.  The indoor project is in Mont Kiara, outside KL  - I don't know if you spent any time there, lots of wealthy expats and well to do Malaysians.  There were requests for an idea of the stuff we produce from our workshops, so I posted a cross section.  One poster asked whether we do ship masts.  We don't as a rule but I post a 3D image of a project we are working on in Penang where a client wants us to run a  zip wire from a "lighthouse" at a waterside development.  The waterside is done well, but is somewhat sterile, so we have designed an iconic landing point for the zip wire and if the project goes ahead, will be using as much wood as possible to keep an old style nautical feel to the structure.  We are adding a parafan drop from the crow's nest as a funky way of dropping to the ground fast.

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Offline GhostFist

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 12:50 PM »
This stuff is so awesome! You ever do a gig here in Toronto, hit me up, I'd love to come work on one of those projects.









Offline mattfc

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2011, 02:22 PM »
I am based in KL and we have a more conventional workshop in Sungai Buloh.  We install, however, all over the world, so the project pics will vary according to the country they are installed in.  The new workshop is being built in the UK South East to service the European market - so the landscape should be partially recognisable to you.  The indoor project is in Mont Kiara, outside KL  - I don't know if you spent any time there, lots of wealthy expats and well to do Malaysians.  There were requests for an idea of the stuff we produce from our workshops, so I posted a cross section.  One poster asked whether we do ship masts.  We don't as a rule but I post a 3D image of a project we are working on in Penang where a client wants us to run a  zip wire from a "lighthouse" at a waterside development.  The waterside is done well, but is somewhat sterile, so we have designed an iconic landing point for the zip wire and if the project goes ahead, will be using as much wood as possible to keep an old style nautical feel to the structure.  We are adding a parafan drop from the crow's nest as a funky way of dropping to the ground fast.

Not sure I have been to Mont Kiara but spent time in some nice expat housse over in Damansara backing onto the hills, the wild monkeys were quite amazing! Had some great marmite crab over in Klang, but mainly working in CyberJaya/Putra Jaya area. Went to a theme park in Genting highlands, the roller coaster there are 2000m above sea level was quite something.

Fantastic part of the world, what a great business you work in!

Offline advrope

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2011, 03:35 PM »
mattfc,

That is astounding, such a small world , I live in Kampung Sungai Penchala, which is right next to Damansara.  Depending on how far back you visisted  there, Mont Kiara is literally over the hill towards KL city centre, but connected by a toll tunnel on the Penchala link.  What were you doing back then?

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2011, 08:51 PM »
Welcome! Awesome stuff!
Hey, if you need festools and/or a licensed stunts/entertainment rigger in Australia, let me know. I'm based in Melbourne. I like to climb. [big grin]
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Offline mattfc

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Re: New Workshop
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 03:06 AM »
mattfc,

That is astounding, such a small world , I live in Kampung Sungai Penchala, which is right next to Damansara.  Depending on how far back you visisted  there, Mont Kiara is literally over the hill towards KL city centre, but connected by a toll tunnel on the Penchala link.  What were you doing back then?

Work for an oil super major in management consulting.. so not timber traded, my woodworking is my attempt to create something tactile and tangible once in a while, since career wise all I have to show for it is a couple of terabytes of slides ! I was in KL in 04,05 and 06.. nothing recent