32 mm Hole Drilling Guide Rail, 55" (1400 mm)

Wood Hog

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When I bought the TS 55 a couple days ago it came with the 55" Guide Rail FS 1400 - 491498. My question is the 32 mm Hole Drilling Guide Rail, 55" (1400 mm) - 496939 is the same price and does the same job as the 55" Guide Rail FS 1400 - 491498 is there any reason not to have your dealer switch it out to the hole drilling guide as they both appear to let you cut straight lines but you have the added benefit of being able to bore holes with your router.
 
It kind of begs the question: why does Festool even offer the standard rail?
 
That's what I was thinking, I'll see if they will swap it I haven't used it yet.
Cheers.
 
Wood Hog said:
That's what I was thinking, I'll see if they will swap it I haven't used it yet.
Cheers.

Hope they swap it out for you.  I did not do this when I bought my TS. Was new to Festool at the time and did not know about the LR32 system.  If I had known I would have asked to swap for sure.
 
Hi all my first post.
I also just got my ts55 with two rails and have been thinking of returning one of them for a holey one, but decided to keep the two and purchase the holey one in addition. The reason being is when cutting 8x4 sheets I can join two for the long cuts and keep it joined and use the holey one for the cross cuts.
I also just got the 800mm rail.
 
sw130p said:
Hi all my first post.
I also just got my ts55 with two rails and have been thinking of returning one of them for a holey one, but decided to keep the two and purchase the holey one in addition. The reason being is when cutting 8x4 sheets I can join two for the long cuts and keep it joined and use the holey one for the cross cuts.
I also just got the 800mm rail.

Yes, welcome to the FOG!

I have the best of all worlds, I have the 55" holey rail, the 95" holey rail, and the 118" rail for making long cuts or angle cuts on full sheets.
 
I would love to get a 3000mm rail but transporting it In the van is no go so joining is my only option.
 
Update, I called the dealers I bought the TS 55 from, unfortunatley they said the TS 55's are supplied with the un-holy 55" rail and they have to order the holy rail separately. In other words he'd get stuck with 55" unholy rail.
( I never thought I'd use the the words un-holy in terms of wood working.)
 
If you want it badly enough, you have 30 days in which to return the tool to them and buy it from someone else who will sell you what you want. I'm not saying you SHOULD do that - just that there are dealers who WILL ship the TS with the Holey Rail you want.

You can call a few of the dealers who are frequent posters here and ask them if they'd make the swap for you. Then you'd know for sure what your options are before you make any decisions?
 
Bob Marino asked me what rail I would like when I purchased the TS55 from him.  I got the holy one, as I am sure one day I will get the LR32 system.  For now I just use my Kreg jig.  Bill
 
Wood Hog said:
Update, I called the dealers I bought the TS 55 from, unfortunatley they said the TS 55's are supplied with the un-holy 55" rail and they have to order the holy rail separately. In other words he'd get stuck with 55" unholy rail.
( I never thought I'd use the the words un-holy in terms of wood working.)
I would probably consider WOW's advice. Since you are in Atlanta I'd suggest Highland woodworking. I absolutely love that place and I visit them every time I got to ATL. They are a large enough dealer that they shouldn't bat an eye at switching that rail for you. If that was the dealer you used, please don't tell me because I'd be shocked and disappointed that they wouldn't accommodate your request. That being said, if they are the dealer, try calling again and make sure you talk to their Festool specialist or a manager. It's a big place and it would be difficult to know everything about what they carry so I've ended up dealing with employees that really weren't up to speed on Festool a few times.
 
elfick said:
It kind of begs the question: why does Festool even offer the standard rail?
Apologies in advance for anyone that thinks I am being too blunt. This is one of the varied and subtle ways that Festool abuses their customers. It is really inexcusable that there are any rails sold which do not have the holes. The only purpose is to extract more monies from customers. In addition to being exploitive it is also an environmentally wasteful practice. There I said it!

The best way to protect yourself from this scheme is to buy from a dealer that will swap the rail. Then buy an additional 55" holey rail that you can join with the first for breakdown of 8ft sheets as well as LR32 use on tall cabinetry. If you go this route then buy 2 of the Makita Rail Connectors instead of the Festool. The Festool connectors are simply not up to the job of securing the rails without damaging them(the set screws will dimple the rail when very tight). Finally, get the Betterley Straightline Connector for aligning the rails if you need precision. This combination will cost about $285 (over the cost of the TS) and it does the job of the 4 rails Festool would rather sell you which would cost an additional $775.

Some feel as though it is inconvenient to have to join the rails for long cuts. I personally feel that storing and transporting longer rails is a much worse inconvenience. Others have simply given up on aligning two rails because they couldn't achieve satisfactorily results.  I am reliably getting 0.1mm(or less) deviation from straight over 8 feet when using the Betterley and Makita connectors.
 
JBird said:
elfick said:
It kind of begs the question: why does Festool even offer the standard rail?
Apologies in advance for anyone that thinks I am being too blunt. This is one of the varied and subtle ways that Festool abuses their customers. It is really inexcusable that there are any rails sold which do not have the holes. The only purpose is to extract more monies from customers. In addition to being exploitive it is also an environmentally wasteful practice. There I said it!......

I see it much differently.  Simply put it costs more to produce rails with holes and there are far too few customers that buy the Festool LR32 set to justify the expense of milling holes in all rails.  Just a guess, but Festool could sell 50 TS saws for every one LR32 set.  Also, I'd speculate that very few people that put out the dealer to swop rails ever actually gets around to buying the LR32. 
 
Brice Burrell said:
I see it much differently.  Simply put it costs more to produce rails with holes and there are far too few customers that buy the Festool LR32 set to justify the expense of milling holes in all rails.

Of course it costs something. But is it an amount that is material to the sales price of the rail? In the US the 55" holey rail is the same price as the standard. Is it a high enough cost for Festool to justify abandoning their "Faster. Easier. Smarter." ethos and to inconvenience their customers in this way? Are we not already paying a premium for an "integrated system" where all the parts are supposed to work together efficiently?

What would you guess is the manufacturing cost of adding the holes to a 55" rail? Is it closer to $0.10, $1.00 or $10.00?
 
Brice Burrell said:
JBird said:
elfick said:
It kind of begs the question: why does Festool even offer the standard rail?
Apologies in advance for anyone that thinks I am being too blunt. This is one of the varied and subtle ways that Festool abuses their customers. It is really inexcusable that there are any rails sold which do not have the holes. The only purpose is to extract more monies from customers. In addition to being exploitive it is also an environmentally wasteful practice. There I said it!......

I see it much differently.  Simply put it costs more to produce rails with holes and there are far too few customers that buy the Festool LR32 set to justify the expense of milling holes in all rails.  Just a guess, but Festool could sell 50 TS saws for every one LR32 set.  Also, I'd speculate that very few people that put out the dealer to swop rails ever actually gets around to buying the LR32.

While it's true that fewer people use the drilling system, more would use it if they didn't have to buy the same rail all over again to get the holes.

I agree with the op.

Festool rails are ridiculously over priced so the minor expense of drilling the holes in all sizes of rails sold shouldn't hurt them.

They would then find customers more willing to buy other high profit margin devices like the drilling guide.

Once they have the drilling guide, they will be more likely to buy a 1010 router even though they have a 1400 router.

I don't mind being "green Kool aided" in that manner because of the value I get.

But I am aggravated about the lack of holes in the rails.  If all the rails had holes, I would have much more flexibility.

We are a festidious bunch and we are willing to pay more for festools because they allow us to satisfy our quest.  But being festidious, we also expect more for our money even if we will spend lavishly for products others wouldn't consider.

Finding out about the lr32 after purchasing overpriced rails, and having to repurchase even more over priced rails and having reduced choices in holed rail lengths, really does make me agravated and considering other methods.

Track saws are the first purchase of many festool purchasers. It's expensive but we justify it because track saws are so very useful.

Then we find we like the dust collection too. And then we start wondering if expensive routers and sanders are worth it and they fit a system so we can justify them too.

If the rails sold with the track saw (at least those rails) came with holes, we would ask, "I wonder what the holes are for?"

Being accurate types, we would find the answer and be happy and say, "ahh, more part of the system, I will buy it and be complete and happy and productive."

Instead, I look at my I unholed rails and I feel hoodwinked.

Others feel the same way or there wouldn't be so many threads asking how to add holes to rails.

Shame on festool in this hole rail matter.

Free the holes.
 
^^^^^

Best post of this thread! Nailed it!
 
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