A new name ALREADY!

[Alaska Ranger]

Alaska Ranger is now Der Flickschuster.

Name change already? [scared]  German speakers will understand.... :

 

[EcoFurniture]

I could be wrong... but shouldn't it say flickENschuster?  Sorry, konnte nicht wiederstehen  [tongue]

 

[peter halle]

Alaska Ranger is now Der Flickschuster.

Name change already? [scared]  German speakers will understand.... :

What about those who don't speak German?

 

[Alaska Ranger]

Alaska Ranger is now Der Flickschuster.

Name change already? [scared]  German speakers will understand.... :

What about those who don't speak German?

Ask and ye shall be answered:

Non-German speakers won't understand.
[big grin]

 

[tbellemare]

'You make movies?

Tom

 

[Alaska Ranger]

Google is your friend..... ;D

sondern -  ist seine freunde......

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Fur diejenigen, die nicht Deutsch verstehen, versuchen http://translate.google.com or http://babelfish.yahoo.com

 

[tbellemare]

No Google, just a guess... I worked in Germany for about a man-year.

Tom

 

[harry_]

I came up with 'cobbler' or 'shoe repairman'

 

[Alaska Ranger]

I came up with 'cobbler' or 'shoe repairman'

aber das ist nur "schuster"....... 

 

[Alaska Ranger]

Today's lesson in German:

"schuster" is, indeed a cobbler, or a shoemaker.  Or, potentially, a shoe-repairer.

Now, just as in English - and indeed, in Japanese and I don't know what other languages - "cobble" can have negative connotations. "Oh, I just cobbled that together" suggests that something other than utmost care was involved.  

Now, flickschuster is bad indeed.  That is someone who botches up a job, who bungles, who does shoddy workmanship.  And there we go again: "shoddy"  derives ultimatley from shoe....and that ferschliggina shoemaker!  For some reason, in English and in German, shoemakers get no respect.

"Slipshod" is a bit different etymologically, as it derives from someone who would exit his house in slipper-like houseshoes.  But I am going to guess it entered the vernacular as adjunct to "shoddy".  But back to the German - it is in carpentry and in woodworking specifically that the master craftsmen would pejoritavely term substandard work as flickschusterei, and the one who created was, indeed, the
FLICKSCHUSTER

So there you have it.

 

[Rob-GB]

[big grin] I am happy to report that while I worked for a Schreinerei in Germany I never heard the word used about me or anyone in that company!  ;D ;D
They did think me a bit odd when I got my own tools out of the van to use at work though!
Rob.

 

[RONWEN]

Vielleicht machen Sie "Die Festool Cobbler"

 

[mike1967]

 And there we go again: "shoddy"  derives ultimatley from shoe....and that ferschliggina shoemaker!  For some reason, in English and in German, shoemakers get no respect.

Sind Sie Sich sicher?  (Ich bin mir unsicher, ob dieser Satz richtig ist.  Es tut mir Leid...  ich bin Anf?nger mit Deutsch.) I recall reading that "shoddy" derives from the Civil War and referred to nasty fabric.

 

[Sean_C_G]

I think (at least in American usage) the carpentry equivalent to "shoemaker" in English would be a "wood butcher." (I have to say that I'm currently a member of that guild, but I'm working on that!) What would be the UK equivalent?

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Don't know if the phrase is still used, but back in the sixties, when I worked as a carpenter's helper, my guy referred to substandard work as a "cobb job."  I presume this was a reference to cobblers.

Another thing I think many of us woodworkers, carpenters, etc. have in common with cobblers, is that since we know how to fix stuff, a lot of it lays around in disrepair waiting for us to get to it some day, thus cobblers children go barefoot, mechanics have cars that don't always start, woodworkers have houses with sticking doors that they will get to someday, etc....

Am I right? [wink]

 

[Sean_C_G]

Don't know if the phrase is still used, but back in the sixties, when I worked as a carpenter's helper, my guy referred to substandard work as a "cobb job."  I presume this was a reference to cobblers.

Another thing I think many of us woodworkers, carpenters, etc. have in common with cobblers, is that since we know how to fix stuff, a lot of it lays around in disrepair waiting for us to get to it some day, thus cobblers children go barefoot, mechanics have cars that don't always start, woodworkers have houses with sticking doors that they will get to someday, etc....

Am I right? [wink]

Yes, yes you are. [wink]

Although this is a light-hearted thread, in defense of shoemakers, I do still bring my shoes into a shoemaker to get them re-soled, and am glad that they are still around (albeit harder to find.)

 

[peter halle]

And they are one of the businesses doing better in this economy!