Can’t tell if scam
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I'd definitely bring a board along, and give it a test. But before that, I'd ask him if he's the original owner, about any proof of purchase, what projects he has used it on, why he's selling it, etc. If you make it to his place, look at his place if he has any other tools. No woodworker would own a DJ but no other serious tools such as a table saw or band saw, dust extractor and clamps for use with the DJ. He also should have some dominoes around, and not just the machine if he is the owner.
It being a stolen property would be my main concern, since you could try out the machine before you buy.
If the deal looks too good to be true, walk away.
It being a stolen property would be my main concern, since you could try out the machine before you buy.
If the deal looks too good to be true, walk away.
Crazyraceguy
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It's a 200-240v tool, not likely to be in the US.
Trebek115 said:
Stolen hard to say. But it won't work in the USA without a transformer of some type or 240v circuit.
Seth
DF700s sold in North America are rated 110V, not 220V. So are all DF500s. If the seller offers a 220V DF700, it didn't come from a Festool retailer based in the US or Canada, as far as I know. The last DF700 I used was 110V.
One extra question to ask the seller: where did he buy/get his Domino Joiner?
One extra question to ask the seller: where did he buy/get his Domino Joiner?
rmhinden
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ChuckS said:
Right, my DF700 runs on 110 volts, not 220 volts.
At that price, I would suspect there is something wrong with it.
Bob
Bohdan
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Photo could be off the internet of a European model.
Cheese
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Trebek115 said:
First off, the 220V you refer to may actually be 240V if you're in the US. It all depends upon what voltage your local power facility is sending your way. My local energy supplier consistently transmits 119V to 121V power levels on one leg which translates to 238V to 242V on combined legs.
The DF 700 you mention, will operate on 240V but this is not the norm in the US and this item is not a US sourced piece of equipment. Normal equipment designed to operate on 240V in the US include ovens, clothes dryers, water heaters and central air conditioners. [tongue]
The thing you have going in your favor is that this DF 700 is rated for 220-240V at 50-60 cycles. That pretty much covers all the options despite it not being an official US released tool. [smile]
Trebek115 said:
It should work fine on any 220-240v outlet you've got, but it won't plug into a US Festool dust extractor which might be annoying. You don't use a domino without dust extraction so you'll be responsible for turning on an off a vac for every mortise. I will say that I regularly see 220v versions of tools being sold out of the UK on eBay for significantly less than their US versions. If someone brought a 220v tool over from Europe the market for it here will be much smaller and thus demand a lower price.
squall_line
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Since it's a European model in the US, I would definitely want to test it first. If nothing else, you need to figure out how the heck it plugs in!
If it's using some sort of Frankenstein'ed-together plug-it with a dryer cord and a plug-it, you would have to consider whether or not you have a dryer outlet available to use it. If it's just using a normal EU-US adapter, maybe it's not a huge deal, but you still need to find a 240v outlet. I have literally one in my entire house, and it's for my dryer. The oven and range are both hard-wired, and I have no 240v anywhere else in the house or garage.
I don't know if it's a scam, per se, but something is definitely odd about this whole deal.
If it's using some sort of Frankenstein'ed-together plug-it with a dryer cord and a plug-it, you would have to consider whether or not you have a dryer outlet available to use it. If it's just using a normal EU-US adapter, maybe it's not a huge deal, but you still need to find a 240v outlet. I have literally one in my entire house, and it's for my dryer. The oven and range are both hard-wired, and I have no 240v anywhere else in the house or garage.
I don't know if it's a scam, per se, but something is definitely odd about this whole deal.
Maybe it was imported before the 110V DF700 came out? Or maybe someone emigrated from Europe to the USA and took it with them?
Half my Thinkpad power supplies originated their life in the USA as did both my Thinkpads itself. I have a whole bag full of US and UK power cords from imported stuff. They usually end up decapitated in some DIY project.
Dutch police have a database for stolen goods, publicly searchable. However, half the stolen Festool stuff they register with the T nr as opposed to the S nr. I've made a small illustrated manual for them on what number to register for stolen Festool stuff and they thanked me for it.
But if it's stolen yesterday and sold today, It might not even be in any database.
Half my Thinkpad power supplies originated their life in the USA as did both my Thinkpads itself. I have a whole bag full of US and UK power cords from imported stuff. They usually end up decapitated in some DIY project.
Dutch police have a database for stolen goods, publicly searchable. However, half the stolen Festool stuff they register with the T nr as opposed to the S nr. I've made a small illustrated manual for them on what number to register for stolen Festool stuff and they thanked me for it.
But if it's stolen yesterday and sold today, It might not even be in any database.
