Connecting the new Hose with Sleeve to 36mm hose

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Is it possible to connect one of the new "sleeved" hoses to an existing 36mm Festool hose. I have a 36mm hose mounted on my boom arm and would want to keep it there. I just would like to connect the hose with the sleeve when I'm sanding and routing; so a 3.5M sleeved hose onto and existing 3.5M 36mm hose.
 
[member=7916]TOOLTOWN[/member] Seems like it might be easier  to buy/install a Y connector. Would the sleeved connection fit directly into the Y connector on the vac side? That way I could use either the 36 mm or 27mm hose when I want. I just wouldn't have the sleeved hose on the boom arm. I find that most useful when I'm using the TS 55 anyway.
 
I see now... I thought you wanted them connected in line, not in parallel.

No need for the sleeved connector on the y-fitting.  The single side fits into the vac port, the double side will accept the vac end of the hoses.

Let me know if I'm still not seeing what you are thinking.

Ken
 
[member=7916]TOOLTOWN[/member] Understandable how you would misunderstand. Connecting them inline was the only way I thought of originally. After you provided input, though, I did a little more research and think the Y Connector would be more useful overall and would give me 2 different size hoses available when needed. I assume the Y does not diminish suction and one side can be capped when not in use. Thanks again.
 
[member=7916]TOOLTOWN[/member] Sorry, meant to ask one other question about the Y (not clear online). Will the 50mm hose that connects my hose on the boom arm connect to the Y adapter so that I can keep that connected on one branch of the Y all the time?
 
No reason to not hang both hoses on your Boom Arm and then just swap as needed where they connect to the Boom Arm's short 50mm hose. You can just use larger rubber bands to wrap around the added hose at each of the B-Arm's cord hooks to keep in place -- one hose in the brackets and an additional hose (as needed, or semi-perminately) attached with rubber bands. Easy. And no real need for the blast gate or Y connector, unless you are really lazy...  [unsure] [wink] [smile]
 
[member=182]Corwin[/member] Have you done this? I wonder if the added hose tends to get in the way since it would hang off the end of the boom arm as far as the other (or farther) if I got a longer one.
 
grbmds said:
[member=182]Corwin[/member] Have you done this? I wonder if the added hose tends to get in the way since it would hang off the end of the boom arm as far as the other (or farther) if I got a longer one.
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Yes, I have had two hoses hanging from my Boom Arm for years. You can loop one hose up onto the Boom if you like, or simply remove the added hose when not in use. Whatever works for the situation.

I do question the logic of hanging a longer hose from a Boom Arm. The Arm is used to hold the hose and cord UP and OFF the floor. Yet, a longer hose will likely hang down to the ground and then back up over the edge of your work -- the very issue you  purchased a Boom Arm to address...  [huh]

Here's an old photo (2007) before the addition of my cyclone. Note that here I hadn't yet thought to use rubber bands, and have short ties instead.

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I've got the sleeved hose on order, I don't really see why I would need it if I had a boom arm as the hose is held up off the work.

I'm going to extend mine inline i f I need longer lengths, say if I'm using the sander up on al ladder at 5m, which to be honest wouldn't be my favourite job, but that's whats on my todo list..
 
[member=182]Corwin[/member] Over the weekend I did buy the 3.5M sleeved hose. I tied it to the boom arm with rubber ties and have already used it for sanding. It works great and, you're right, no problems with 2 hoses on the boom arm. The reason I like it is that I bought my CT with a 36mm hose instead of the standard 27mm. I like the bigger hose for the TS55, routing, and even the Domino but, for sanding, it kind of is inconvenient, especially with the ribbed hose and the lower flexibility of the 36mm hose. The sleeved 27mm is just right for sanding and 3.5M length works well with the boom arm. Now I have the best of both worlds (at a rather high price however).
 
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[member=182]Corwin[/member] Over the weekend I did buy the 3.5M sleeved hose. I tied it to the boom arm with rubber ties and have already used it for sanding. It works great and, you're right, no problems with 2 hoses on the boom arm. The reason I like it is that I bought my CT with a 36mm hose instead of the standard 27mm. I like the bigger hose for the TS55, routing, and even the Domino but, for sanding, it kind of is inconvenient, especially with the ribbed hose and the lower flexibility of the 36mm hose. The sleeved 27mm is just right for sanding and 3.5M length works well with the boom arm. Now I have the best of both worlds (at a rather high price however).
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Glad you like your setup. However, what purpose does the sleeved hose serve (as opposed to the standard antistatic D27 hose) when mounted on the Boom Arm? I would have thought that the sleeved hose would be of use for those WITHOUT a Boom Arm where their hose(s) lay on the floor...
 
Corwin said:
grbmds said:
[member=182]Corwin[/member] Over the weekend I did buy the 3.5M sleeved hose. I tied it to the boom arm with rubber ties and have already used it for sanding. It works great and, you're right, no problems with 2 hoses on the boom arm. The reason I like it is that I bought my CT with a 36mm hose instead of the standard 27mm. I like the bigger hose for the TS55, routing, and even the Domino but, for sanding, it kind of is inconvenient, especially with the ribbed hose and the lower flexibility of the 36mm hose. The sleeved 27mm is just right for sanding and 3.5M length works well with the boom arm. Now I have the best of both worlds (at a rather high price however).
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Glad you like your setup. However, what purpose does the sleeved hose serve (as opposed to the standard antistatic D27 hose) when mounted on the Boom Arm? I would have thought that the sleeved hose would be of use for those WITHOUT a Boom Arm where their hose(s) lay on the floor...
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I don't own a 27mm antistatic hose besides the sleeved version. I bought my CT with a 36mm hose instead of the standard 27mm. At the time, I actually was using a TS75 and the 36mm hose seemed better for that saw. I returned that saw and went with the TS55 instead. Now, I have found that the 36mm hose works well for the TS55, routing, and the Domino; better suction. When I sand with the 36mm hose, it always gets caught on something, especially with the ETS150/5 sander I have. In the short time I have had the sleeved hose, I found that it is much easier to use with the sander. With both of them mounted on the arm, I feel I can switch back and forth and I don't have to think about a hose on the floor. I have space to move the CT around where I need it and most of my tables are also mobile. Over time, I'll see whether mounting both hoses is what works best.
 
grbmds said:
I don't own a 27mm antistatic hose besides the sleeved version. I bought my CT with a 36mm hose instead of the standard 27mm. At the time, I actually was using a TS75 and the 36mm hose seemed better for that saw. I returned that saw and went with the TS55 instead. Now, I have found that the 36mm hose works well for the TS55, routing, and the Domino; better suction. When I sand with the 36mm hose, it always gets caught on something, especially with the ETS150/5 sander I have. In the short time I have had the sleeved hose, I found that it is much easier to use with the sander. With both of them mounted on the arm, I feel I can switch back and forth and I don't have to think about a hose on the floor. I have space to move the CT around where I need it and most of my tables are also mobile. ...
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I only asked because to me, the sleeved hose seem unnecessary when you already have a Boom Arm. Hadn't thought of someone without a D27 hose -- and wouldn't want to run a sander with a larger hose either. But, I still question the need for these sleeved hoses unless you wanted one for use without a Boom Arm. And really question them at these prices. Maybe if you were in the automotive painting industry, I might understand...

grbmds said:
... Over time, I'll see whether mounting both hoses is what works best.
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And that's the beauty of strapping a second hose to the cord clips -- it can be removed so readily.  [smile]

One thing to mention is the connection piece between the upper and lower portions of the Boom Arms tubes. Originally, Festool made these from a plastic that was too soft and the connector could fail simply under the weight of an unloaded Boom Arm. Later they sent replacements made of aluminum which corrected the issue. So, if you have one of the plastic connectors on your Boom Arm and want to hang a second hose, you best 'expect to inspect' this connection piece.
 
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