ct 36 and bags

[Pdevore]

Guys, I am looking at getting a ct36 for an up comming project. I was just looking at the replacement bags and see that Festool offers a long life reusable bag. Shockingly the cost is $200 for 1 bag. Wouldn't I be better off getting the CT36 and a dust deputyfor the same cost and just use the $6 bags. Am I missing something here??

Thanks
Pete

 

[Grinding One]

It is called a long life bag for a reason.

 

[festooldude]

according to marc spagnuolo, the longlife filter bag is reusable for up to 500 times..    that's 40 cents each use..

not a bad investment as i may say.

 

[TA455HO]

One $200 bag is equivalent to about 30 or so regular bags. As a hobbyist I know it will take me a long time to fill up 30+ bags. The CT36 is pretty cavernous. The extractor came with one bag and I bought a box of 5 more for $35. But, if you fill them up quickly it might be worth the extra cost over the long haul. Would hate to empty them, though.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Per our website...

Only recommended for large chips and debris. Traps larger chips and debris before they reach the main filter, extending the life of both the main filter and dust extractor. Can be refilled up to 500 times before being replaced, versus only once with a regular filter bag. Integrated cap forms a tight seal during bag removal and disposal, keeping the dust contained and off the floor. The longlife filter bag should not be used for RRP tasks. Includes one (1) bag.

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/dust-extractors/bags/longlife-filter-bag-longlife-for-ct-36-496121.html

 

[GPowers]

what is RRP??

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[scared]

 

[Alan m]

depends what you do with the vac. if you sand only get the dispoable bags. if you plane or make lots of wood chips get a reusable bag or dust deputy.  i have a reusable on my 22 and will only use it for planing etc as it is a PITA to empty of dust.

 

[Brice Burrell]

RRP=Renovation, Repair and Painting

 

[Jerry Sitton]

I use the DD that sits on top of my 36 and like it very well.
I went through that same thinking process. It transports easy for job sites,
it doesn't lock on top like a systainer does, not as well anyhow, but ok.
I use a kitchen bag in it. Tap it on top a few times before opening to change bags,
as the dust sticks to the lid. There are some static issues, do a search, when it's dry,
at least here in Indiana in the wintertime, but fixed that. Not now as spring approaches with rain and humidity.
The standard reusable bags in the 36 holds a while. Only time I would really fill it is when I was catching planner
work and my dovetail jigs, oh and dado's and rabbits. But that's pretty much gone since I bought the
Domino, and I'm using my portable dc for my planner.

 

[GPowers]

RRP=Renovation, Repair and Painting

So it refers to the ERA regulation regarding lead paint. Make sense not to contaminate the 200 dollar bag with lead paint.

 

[SteveC]

FWIW  It's the EPA [big grin]
http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/renovation.htm

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Greg's having one of those Bing search engine moments.  [tongue]

 

[Kodi Crescent]

There is something clean and cathartic about throwing the bag of dirt away.  Emptying it from a bag brings back memories of emptying a cheap, bagless shop vac.

What if you bought the expensive bag, and in the process of dumping it you caught it on something and ripped it?

 

[festooldude]

the Longlife filterbag is made of very sturdy material.. I thing it's called vlies.. To me, it's very unlikely that it will rip
during emptying the bag.. Remember, because I'm a woodworker, I practically only use it with the TS 55, Carvex, Kapex 120, planer and OF 1400..
Sanding bare wood is ok for me as well, but if i'm doeing a big sanding wood job, i'm swopping the bag for a disposable, because i want
to use the longlife as long as i can.. In my opinion, the bag's vlies, will clutter up over time, so im trying to prevent that by using a disposable bag
when i'm sanding drywall, paint or just do a lot of sanding in one time...

(love the longlife bag tho.. ) With planing, routing and sawing a lot of material, it (or bag's in general) fill/'s up easily so much value for the money!!!

 

[Pdevore]

So, do any of you use the vac as a shop vac for clean up as well? I will be starting a large commercial build and I also use my MIDI for clean up when I feel there is a possibility of lead being present. This job has the potential for having lead in much of the paint of the walls being demo'd out and the doors that I will be sanding for refinishing. The project has 68 42" doors.

 

[Brice Burrell]

So, do any of you use the vac as a shop vac for clean up as well? I will be starting a large commercial build and I also use my MIDI for clean up when I feel there is a possibility of lead being present. This job has the potential for having lead in much of the paint of the walls being demo'd out and the doors that I will be sanding for refinishing. The project has 68 42" doors.

Yes, I use my Mini for cleanup all the time.  You'll want a large to make it worth your while.  I use the D36 hose but you could use other brand hoses like Shopvac, Ridgid, Craftsman and others.  I'm careful to not suck up nails or screws because I worry about bag blow outs.  Get the HEPA filter too. 

 

[Pdevore]

Brice,
Thanks, I have a MIDI now but am looking at getting the 36 for much of the clean up, I am currently using the HEPA filters in the MIDI. I too make sure not to suck up nails and screws. it makes a mess with bag blow out.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Brice,
Thanks, I have a MIDI now but am looking at getting the 36 for much of the clean up, I am currently using the HEPA filters in the MIDI. I too make sure not to suck up nails and screws. it makes a mess with bag blow out.

Yeah, I hoping we get those new self cleaning bags for the Mini/Midi soon....

That reminds me, one more thing to add to the list of things to bug Shane about while I'm there. BTW, if there is anything you want me to pester Shane about on your behalf, just let me know. [big grin]

 

[Pdevore]

I have a BIG one... [scared]
I think that Festool should offer the 10% discount if you want to buy the MFT/3 and a dust collection together. They have packages for for either one but not together [crying]

THANKS and give him He@@