dewalt toughsystem
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Kev
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I see no reason why you couldn't use the trolley for Systainers. I wouldn't touch it here in Oz as the price is "stupid" ! ... $328AUD. The Dewalt boxes will not interlock in any way with Systainers unless you make some form of intermediate adaptor plate maybe.
this is a coincidence.
iv been researching them lately.
iv decided to buy a few.
my plan is to put my festtools and really acurate tools in systainers and my rougher work tools in these tough boxs.
iv noticed my systainers are getting visually scruffed up from rough work on sites.
iv bought a 150mm for my dewalt cordless angle grinder and cordless sds. 1 of the 2 drawer unit for screws and such like. i had a 150 that my 4 ah drill and impact came in.
so far so good.
i plan on buying a good few more between now and christmass. and racking the back of my berlingo out .
i was planning on all tough boxs on the right side and a sysport on the left for the sys
there is a man (i think) in the uk. goes by the username rossi7x that racked out his van . he welded 25mm box iron into a frame and mounted the folding arms from the trolly on that.
i think he has 25 tough boxs in a transporter or t5
the beauty of his system is that you can take all the boxs out and fold tha arms to regain most of the space back again.
that is one reason im going this way . mainly because i couldnt nail down a racking layout that allowed me to change on a daily basis. the way things are lately with wirk im doing a weird variety of hauling of diferent types of stuff
as for the trolly. iv only played with it in the shop
rossi 7x posts that he likes it but found it too wide. he cut the back axle and mounts off. then shortened everything so that the wheels are now inside the width of the boxs. he said it was too wide to go through uk doorways easily.
i will try and find that thread again
iv been researching them lately.
iv decided to buy a few.
my plan is to put my festtools and really acurate tools in systainers and my rougher work tools in these tough boxs.
iv noticed my systainers are getting visually scruffed up from rough work on sites.
iv bought a 150mm for my dewalt cordless angle grinder and cordless sds. 1 of the 2 drawer unit for screws and such like. i had a 150 that my 4 ah drill and impact came in.
so far so good.
i plan on buying a good few more between now and christmass. and racking the back of my berlingo out .
i was planning on all tough boxs on the right side and a sysport on the left for the sys
there is a man (i think) in the uk. goes by the username rossi7x that racked out his van . he welded 25mm box iron into a frame and mounted the folding arms from the trolly on that.
i think he has 25 tough boxs in a transporter or t5
the beauty of his system is that you can take all the boxs out and fold tha arms to regain most of the space back again.
that is one reason im going this way . mainly because i couldnt nail down a racking layout that allowed me to change on a daily basis. the way things are lately with wirk im doing a weird variety of hauling of diferent types of stuff
as for the trolly. iv only played with it in the shop
rossi 7x posts that he likes it but found it too wide. he cut the back axle and mounts off. then shortened everything so that the wheels are now inside the width of the boxs. he said it was too wide to go through uk doorways easily.
i will try and find that thread again
link to trolly mod
trolly link
i will definelt do it to mine if i get one. i was put off by that in the shop
van racking link
trolly link
i will definelt do it to mine if i get one. i was put off by that in the shop
van racking link
alan could you measure the width of the trolley please,(I guess the wheels are the widest point),if it won't go through a standard doorway then it wouldn't be much use,i am considering the trolley to transport a small tablesaw plus of course systainers and I may try the dewalt toolboxes themselves
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The tough box is far better than the sustainer to be honest. More durable, 2 handles to carry smaller height boxes either way. And the racking is far superior system. If it wasn't for all the systainers I'd go that route
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skinee said:
The wheels are the widest part. I just measured them at 684mm, so it will go through some UK doors, but not all - the 762mm ones in my home are fine, but the bathroom doors are 686mm and it won't go through because of the jambs.
Hope this helps.
i dont own the trolly yet. but il try and find it online somewhere.
rossi7x was saying that it does fit through our sized doors but it was a pain because there wasnt much either side . by moving in the wheels he found it a lot faster because he didnt have to slow down going through doors.
i have to agree with deansocial
they are more durable ,bigger, stronger,and cheaper.
the racking looks good.
the systainers are perfect for festools and other high end tools that are used in high end situations.
im going to go with both in my system.
rossi7x was saying that it does fit through our sized doors but it was a pain because there wasnt much either side . by moving in the wheels he found it a lot faster because he didnt have to slow down going through doors.
i have to agree with deansocial
they are more durable ,bigger, stronger,and cheaper.
the racking looks good.
the systainers are perfect for festools and other high end tools that are used in high end situations.
im going to go with both in my system.
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Alan m said:
Yes, the wheels are by far the widest part.
The handle is approximately 620mm wide, and the boxes themselves are about 550mm at their widest point (the folded side handles).
I have the set which consists of;
1 x Toughsystem DS150 Tool Box 158 x 336 x 550mm
1 x Toughsystem DS300 Tool Box 308 x 336 x 550mm
1 x Toughsystem DS400 Tool Box 408 x 366 x 550mm
1 x Toughsystem Heavy-Duty Trolley
Total dimensions are listed as 955 x 589 x 681mm.
Let me know if you need any other dimensions or pictures of various parts.
The racking is better because you can remove anybox and leave the rest
You can also take outtheboxs , fold away the arms and get back an unobstructed van
Or remove the bottom row of boxs to put in something wide on the bottom and leave the rest of the boxs
You can also take outtheboxs , fold away the arms and get back an unobstructed van
Or remove the bottom row of boxs to put in something wide on the bottom and leave the rest of the boxs
I was reading some reviews of the dewalt boxes at amazon and it seems hit or miss on the quality, from cracks to poor seals. Have folks here been pleased? My frame of reference for the quality of this style of box is Pelican, those things are amazing for strength and great seals.
alan and garry thankyou both very much,684mm is definitely too wide for a lot of doorways,i would have to try and narrow the wheel width but I have no metalworking skills or welder,garry,in the photos that alan linked to, the axle brackets are shown,could these be swapped around thereby moving them inwards the width of the box iron frame on both sides?,then perhaps the axle could be shortened a similar amount?
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skinee said:
I think I understand what you mean; swap the right hand bracket to the left hand side and the left hand bracket to the right side so that the plate parts are closer to the centre of the trolley?
If so, it won't work as the wheels come slightly forward of the tubular steel uprights. If you take a look at the photos again, you'll see that and also that the brackets in the photos Alan linked to have been manufactured to bring them further out to counter that problem.
Would have been a quick and easy change otherwise. Good thinking though.
if you look at the thread to the forum where rossi7x mods the cart. you will see that he cuts the brackets off and adds in an extra piece of steel so that there is somewhere to weld the brackets back onto.
when i get mine i think i will try and come up with a way that isnt as perminant incase i ever sell it later
when i get mine i think i will try and come up with a way that isnt as perminant incase i ever sell it later
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Alan m said:
Well I personally looking at it thinks the trolley mod is a must!!
I think its redicilous why dewalt designed it with the wheels on the outside! Why make the trolley wider than it actually needs to be is stupid in my opinion. Especially if its pretty wide anyway to fit through a door.
So what I'm saying is if you do a proper job I'm sure some one would rather have a mod trolley than a standard trolley so making it so you undo what you done is unnecessary.
Jmb
