Do jigs and Qwas substitute for complete MFT?

[NEW2FES]

EMER... Thanks and I will be calling them as that is a great resource.

LI Boatman I saw one of your past threads and that is kind of the idea I have for dealing with odd angles but may use a t-track and Obsourne miter gauge. I used to be from LI myself.

Funny thing is in the move I lost almost all my tools and equipment. I am starting to realize I need the MFT/3 to build my version of the MFT? Does that make sense?

Love the above accuracy but it is wood and I have learned accuracy like that in wood creates more problems then solutions.

Thanks

 

[PaulMarcel]

Thanks, Steve... simple enough concept, but I wonder how useful it would be for setting up a miter gauge or MFT gauge for a specific angle.  Have to think about it more.  [scratch chin]

 

[RONWEN]

I just can't pass any opportunities to mention Steve's newest product -- Speed Dogs, if you really like Qwas Dogs you will love the Speed Dogs.  They have eliminated my using clamps for most all Domino operations.  [thumbs up]

http://www.qwasproducts.com/SpeedDog.html

 

[Boatman]

With the 10" bar you just move the decimal point for the height of the gauge block. I have even just set that on a vernier caliper to set the bar for one quick cut. I'll start I new thread on this tomorrow after I take some picks of the setup I have.

 

[Qwas]

Thanks, Steve... simple enough concept, but I wonder how useful it would be for setting up a miter gauge or MFT gauge for a specific angle.  Have to think about it more.  [scratch chin]

Actually the idea is very practical. You don't need the wheels, just a mark on the fence. A mark on one end and the other at 10 inches from the end (or better yet could be a mark at 20 or 30 inches). The Jo blocks can be replaced by a caliper dialed to the proper "height" and locked in place. The reference "surface" can be a temporary fence or bar. You can google "sine bar explained" and get more details.

You may remember I started a thread about a Tan Bar on the other forum. It used the same principle but used the tangent function instead of the sine.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Actually the idea is very practical. You don't need the wheels, just a mark on the fence. A mark on one end and the other at 10 inches from the end (or better yet could be a mark at 20 or 30 inches). The Jo blocks can be replaced by a caliper dialed to the proper "height" and locked in place. The reference "surface" can be a temporary fence or bar. You can google "sine bar explained" and get more details.

You may remember I started a thread about a Tan Bar on the other forum. It used the same principle but used the tangent function instead of the sine.

A Tan bar would probably be better... that other picture up there looks way too pale.

 

[rookie08]

Jesus , Your ultimate workbench with the LS positioner sounds exactly like what I'm trying to do. Would you be able to post some pics of it please?

Thanks

James

 

[Steve R]

I'm selling my mft.  I just made an ultimate workbench (Ron paulk). Couldn't be happier.  I use an Incra positioner (rips) and a stop for crosscuts.  I use the qwas rail dogs to keep the rail in place. I added two elongated holes at each end so I can use the rail dogs without retightrning. There is no side play and the rail is very easy to pull off or put in position.   Everything stays square or parallel. The nice part of the large work surface is that I can do an entire project without having to reposition any hardware.... And is dead flat. It is also light. You can hange the workbench from a wall to put it away at the end of the day.  The mft is very flexible, but I found that I always needed a larger work surface. Your needs may be different.

Jga

What works for each of us depends on what we do. The Ultimate Workbench (UW) is a great thing if you have a double garage space to set it up in. But you're not going to get the UW up to the second or third floor of old Midwest homes. Also what you can get up in to condo unit on the 27th floor is another thing.

Maybe we should step back and reflect a bit more about what the situation is and what might work for that person. The MFT works very well for many things.

My MFT/3 with scaled in-feed and out-feed rules are fast and accurate for the kind of work I do.

Will I say that MFTs are teh end all product that fits everyone's needs....No.

As the old saying goes you can't pick another persons, religion, politics or spouse....and maybe add workshop layout or tools they need to that.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[EEHammar]

Jesus,

I would also love to see some pictures of your set up.

Thanks,
Eric