Domino Guide Pins?

[HardTarget]

I am looking to buy a Domino, but not sure which version, as I have read that the older version of the Domino had metal guide pins which are no longer available and newer version has plastic. I also was informed that there were two types of the plastic guide pins is this true? I only ask as I wish to purchase a Domino soon and I'm a little confused with the guide pins and which if there are indeed two versions to go for? Any advise would be appreciated.

Jimmy

 

[RONWEN]

They both have their separate advantages.  I tend to use the paddle (new) style more often because I often position the machine to a pencil line and the paddle style allows you to lock the paddles in the retracted position.  If you add Rick's Multiposition guide stop you can precisely locate the arms for exact positioning at any dimension (it works with the pin style also) for multiple locations.
I've just ordered a set of the magnetic narrow stock spacers (e-bay) which are very handy but only work with the pin style.
If I had to give up one (for the way that I usually work) it would probably be the pin style.  If you buy both styles you don't need to make a decision.  [wink]

 

[Brice Burrell]

I don't know about the UK but here in the States the pin version Domino is hard to find and the ones available are used.  I suspect it's the same over there.  I believe there is only one paddle version of the Domino.  If you want a new Domino you'll have to settle for the paddle version. 

 

[Ted Miller]

We are lucky here in the states, pinned Dominos are always on eBay, new and used.

I personally do not like the pins, as I use a pencil marks for all of my mortises...

 

[HardTarget]

Thank you for all the replies, I think I might go for the newer version.......just  [unsure]

jimmy

 

[waho6o9]

The paddles are retractable and I find it works better for me that way. Your mileage may vary.  However, the paddles make great reference points.  Yeppers.

 

[woodguy7]

Well my vote goes for the pins  [smile]

Welcome to the Fog  ;D

 

[Alan m]

[welcome] to the fog.
i have the paddles and never felt the need for the  pins. them spacer disks ron was on about look handy. paul marcel uses them in his lastest (or second last ) video about his vanity build on you tube. if i had the pin style i would have these. i always use a pencil mark for the slot. most of my dominos are used for allignment mostly where the middle size is strong enough.

 

[brussveins]

My recommendation,metal pins. Why,is easier to upgread. Domino  with metal pins is  more versatile. [wink]

 

[semenza]

Hardtarget,

You will get a lot of proponents for both types. They both have +/- . Until you get the tool and really start using it yourself it may be hard to know which way to go, unless you have a specific use / method in mind. I think that you will be happy with either one. The drawbacks that one may have compared to the other are not so huge that they can't be worked around.

Seth

 

[PaulMarcel]

You will get a lot of proponents for both types. They both have +/- . Until you get the tool and really start using it yourself it may be hard to know which way to go, unless you have a specific use / method in mind. I think that you will be happy with either one. The drawbacks that one may have compared to the other are not so huge that they can't be worked around.

Seth

Exactly, and that said, pins rock!  [tongue]

 

[RONWEN]

You will get a lot of proponents for both types. They both have +/- . Until you get the tool and really start using it yourself it may be hard to know which way to go, unless you have a specific use / method in mind. I think that you will be happy with either one. The drawbacks that one may have compared to the other are not so huge that they can't be worked around.

Seth

Exactly, and that said, pins rock!  [tongue]

Paddles RULE!  [big grin]

 

[semenza]

So if you have 'em  both you can ....................................    Rock 'n' Rule  ;D

Seth

 

[woodguy7]

[ban]

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Pins rule!

 

[RONWEN]

I really do like them both, if I had to give one or the other up I would require counseling...  [eek]

 

[ccarrolladams]

My original Domino has pins and was one of the first sold in Los Angeles County.

For reasons known only to Festool eventually production of the Dominoes with pins was discontinued. Shortly after the version with paddles was available from my dealer I bought one.

I have been very pleased with the performance of both of these tools. Personally I have never been a fan of woodworking systems which attempt to eliminate marks on the part, so as I use a Domino my paddles are locked in the out-of-the-way position. Yet the pins never caused me any problem.

One of the cabinet makers working for me also owns one of each kind of Domino. Three other cabinet makers working for me also own Dominoes and all of those have padles.

 

[mouppe]

I believe I read somewhere that the pins were replaced with paddles because of a patent issue.

Anyway, I agree with Carroll Adams in that I never use the paddles to register a mortise. I much prefer a mark on the wood.

 

[RONWEN]

I believe I read somewhere that the pins were replaced with paddles because of a patent issue.

Anyway, I agree with Carroll Adams in that I never use the paddles to register a mortise. I much prefer a mark on the wood.

I read the same reason for the change from pins.
  And I most often use a mark for locating so I lock the paddles retracted.

 

[ApgarConstruction]

is there a video out there that shows both.  I haven't used the domino but it's on my wish list.  I can't really picture what these paddles are.