Failed Sikkens Exterior Conversion...A Tale of 2 Rotexes

[Scott B.]

Here's a current project we are wrapping up.

A lot more vertical Rotex action than usual on this one, which has been fun.

The project is a hail damaged and failed Sikkens coating on the exterior of a home. Lots of low grit Granat action...

Prep featured a heaping helping of the RO125's, 90's and the DTS400 appearing here and there in relief situations.

Hope you all are having a great summer. It has been very hot, rainy and busy here in Vermont.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Amazing transformation, Scott. Nice photo bomb, Todd.  [smile]

 

[Scott B.]

Amazing transformation, Scott. Nice photo bomb, Todd.  [smile]

Thanks Shane.

Can't take that guy anywhere...

[big grin]

 

[Stephen B]

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Hi Scott,
Video will not play on my IPad, can you upload to UTube.
Thanks.

 

[Scott B.]

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Hi Scott,
Video will not play on my IPad, can you upload to UTube.
Thanks.

Here is a link:



Otherwise, we may need Shane's magic touch...

 

[Stephen B]

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Thanks for trying Scott, Shane may need to assist here.

Edit. Thanks Frank, managed to link through Scott's signature.

Scott - I wish I could paint that fast.  [big grin]

 

[Frank-Jan]

You can click the link in Scott's signature to go to his youtube channel. (And if you can't play embedded videos, maybe you can open a "quote" window and copy the link from there)

 

[Scott B.]

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Thanks for trying Scott, Shane may need to assist here.

Edit. Thanks Frank, managed to link through Scott's signature.

Scott - I wish I could paint that fast.  [big grin]

Me too!

 

[tiralie]

The project is a hail damaged and failed Sikkens coating on the exterior of a home. Lots of low grit Granat action...

So, no Sikkens? What was the recipe, SW stain and then Exterior latex?
What'd that take you, an afternoon or so [poke].
Love those scaffolding...

Hope you all are having a great summer. It has been very hot, rainy and busy here in Vermont.

Cool and wet here...
Tim

 

[Scott B.]

The project is a hail damaged and failed Sikkens coating on the exterior of a home. Lots of low grit Granat action...

So, no Sikkens? What was the recipe, SW stain and then Exterior latex?
What'd that take you, an afternoon or so [poke].
Love those scaffolding...

Hope you all are having a great summer. It has been very hot, rainy and busy here in Vermont.

Cool and wet here...
Tim

We have stripped a lot of Sikkens over the years...off of both homes and decks. Usually, the Sikkens has completely failed. This one was different. The homeowner had actually done ALL of the recommended Sikkens maintenance over the years. The coating was basically intact, but had that "muddy" look of just too many years of it. It turns kind of pukey looking after a decade or so, the clear loses it's transparency.

Most notably, half the house was badly pelted with hail, which broke the coating and started to quickly accelerate the failure process, as the home is located in a pretty harsh sun and wind exposure.

The hail damaged sides were stripped to bare wood. The non affected sides were aggressively scuffed. All sides were primed with SW adhesion primer (tinted), then coated with Woodscapes acrylic stain. Trim received duration, same color but satin sheen.

In the past, we used to chemically strip failed Sikkens. Never again. Because you end up having to do at least a defur sanding anyways, so it is easier to just commit to a full mechanical strip, and much safer without the chem exposure. Those chems are HOT.

 

[rst]

Love the way the older guy finishes first.  My first job out of high school, 1971, was in the staining dept of a custom kitchen plant.  We got paid piece rate and a regular week was 48 hours.  My partner was a 62 year old farmer.  We consistently earned more than anyone else in the 20 man department.  He taught me that consistency would win over speed and effort long term.  (also that age and treachery would beat youth and enthusiasm)

 

[Scott B.]

Love the way the older guy finishes first.  My first job out of high school, 1971, was in the staining dept of a custom kitchen plant.  We got paid piece rate and a regular week was 48 hours.  My partner was a 62 year old farmer.  We consistently earned more than anyone else in the 20 man department.  He taught me that consistency would win over speed and effort long term.  (also that age and treachery would beat youth and enthusiasm)

Gotta be honest...Todd is older than me, not by much. And he had 8 stitches in his right pinky at the time of this video, which put him at about 90% of his usual output. It didn't slow down his brush work all that much, but definitely affects mobility up and down the ladder while carrying paint, and also raising/lowering/moving the ladders.

We have been painting together since '96. I just have more gray hair because I am the business owner.  [big grin]

You are absolutely correct, speed is gained through efficiency...eliminating any wasted movement/energy.

 

[peter halle]

see if this works: 

 

[Walk On Wood]

Scott- you are absolutely correct about speed being gained through efficiency of movement.  I try to teach that to my guys.

What semi-translucent stain/finish do you recommend for decks? I have used Sikkens a bunch of times and have never been overly impressed, but also havemt found anything I like better.

 

[Stephen B]

Well done Peter.

[smile]

 

[Scott B.]

Scott- you are absolutely correct about speed being gained through efficiency of movement.  I try to teach that to my guys.

What semi-translucent stain/finish do you recommend for decks? I have used Sikkens a bunch of times and have never been overly impressed, but also havemt found anything I like better.

It is one of those things that is easy to teach but hard to learn. Part of it is experience, part is muscle memory, part is mindfulness of the task at hand. We spend a lot of time off the job, breaking down the moves and thinking about how to approach the overall project most efficiently. There are always ways to cut out some waste.

We emphasize to employees that if you are "into it" and highly productive, it is much more fun. The day goes by faster, you are more proud of what you accomplished, and you may even make more money.

On deck finish, I am not a fan at all of film forming coatings such as Sikkens. I prefer penetrating oils. We use a lot of Marine Grade Penofin, which has transoxide pigments that are high quality. It does require maintenance though. We have also had very good luck with a smaller company called Armstrong Clark, which produces very high quality product that holds up.

 

[Walk On Wood]

Thanks Scott- as a floor guy, Im not a big fan of the newer penetrating finishes (Rubio, Pallman Magic Oil) as compared to film building finishes (for interior use).  But I will definitely have to check them out for decks.. Thank you for the info and quick response

 

[Scott B.]

Thanks Scott- as a floor guy, Im not a big fan of the newer penetrating finishes (Rubio, Pallman Magic Oil) as compared to film building finishes (for interior use).  But I will definitely have to check them out for decks.. Thank you for the info and quick response

You're welcome.

I am a big fan of film forming clears on interior surfaces too. It is just hard to get them to work on the outside of a house...