Felder tablesaw fence ehm.. innovations

The Vectral Fence has been out for several years now and unfortunately was not a Felder innovation. It was designed and produced by Aigner in Germany and is available for any saw. Both Felder and Martin use Aigner safety equipment on there woodworking machines. Here's a link to a catalog. I have no connection to Felder or Aigner.

http://www.martin-usa.com/cms/_main/aigner/catalogue.html

John
 
The Vectral is indeed an Aigner product but is not in the catalog link as its production was later than 2008.  I have had one for almost 4 years and like all Aigner products, it is well designed and executed.  It is awesome as long as the stock you are ripping is 10mm or thicker. 

Attached is the Aigner Vectral pages that will likely be included in their catalog when Aigner gets one of those round toits.

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I have some Aigner accessories and they are top notch.  I will be investing in more as soon as possible.  There shaper accessories are really amazing and will be my next jump in Aigner such as the shaper hood for curved work.

Since Aigner is a Third Party accessory its compatible with lots of machinery.  Therefore as I progress to better and better machines the Aigner's will be kept.  Really a one time purchase.
 
Where can we get this fence and tell whether it's compatible with a particular saw?  Also, what's the cost?
 
Jalvis I have the Aigner Large Bowmould hood with the curved machining guide for my shaper. Also replaced the factory fences with Integral fences. Definitely an investment but well worth it for the versatility and safety. The circle cutting jig is another great attachment for the shaper  and can also be used on the bandsaw.

Steve that was the only link I could find unfortunately, its definitely in my 2011 catalog. You would think making the latest catalog available online would be an asset.

Lawhoo your best bet would be to contact Martin or Greg at Rangate.
Update: I just read my catalog and it will fit Altendorf, Felder/Format 4 and Martin saws. They all have interchangeable fences by design.

John
 
junk said:
Jalvis I have the Aigner Large Bowmould hood with the curved machining guide for my shaper. Also replaced the factory fences with Integral fences. Definitely an investment but well worth it for the versatility and safety. The circle cutting jig is another great attachment for the shaper  and can also be used on the bandsaw.

John
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I'm very excited about getting the bowmould hood. 

What do you think of the 'machining guides' with the hood?

There are so many accessories offered I don't even know what they are all for.  Any other suggestions?
 
Jalvis said:
junk said:
Jalvis I have the Aigner Large Bowmould hood with the curved machining guide for my shaper. Also replaced the factory fences with Integral fences. Definitely an investment but well worth it for the versatility and safety. The circle cutting jig is another great attachment for the shaper  and can also be used on the bandsaw.

John
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I'm very excited about getting the bowmould hood. 

What do you think of the 'machining guides' with the hood?

There are so many accessories offered I don't even know what they are all for.  Any other suggestions?
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Good find on that link to pieces and prices. Once again I went back to my catalog and found the related materials with a variety of mounting pics.

The machining guides work good within their design limitations. They are great for larger radius pieces and replace the need for a bearing. I bought the guide for a 1 1/4" spindle and then bought a set of step down rings so I can mount it on my 30mm spindle. The guide is usable in my case for cutter diameters from 93mm to 180mm. For small radius projects I also have an 80mm insert cutter head with a bearing.

In order to get an idea for the use of the various accessories download the catalog and go through page by page, a picture is worth a thousand words in this case. Aigner is great at showing setups and uses for their products. Just be prepared for another slippery slope.

Have you got a power feeder for your shaper?

John
 
junk said:
Jalvis said:
junk said:
Jalvis I have the Aigner Large Bowmould hood with the curved machining guide for my shaper. Also replaced the factory fences with Integral fences. Definitely an investment but well worth it for the versatility and safety. The circle cutting jig is another great attachment for the shaper  and can also be used on the bandsaw.

John
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I'm very excited about getting the bowmould hood. 

What do you think of the 'machining guides' with the hood?

There are so many accessories offered I don't even know what they are all for.  Any other suggestions?
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Have you got a power feeder for your shaper?

John
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My shaper is a Felder F700Z with the Felder F-38 Power Feeder.  The Feeder is an 8 speed with the 3 rollers.

This shaper is a new tool for my shop and I'm learning all the ins and outs.  Really nice machine with the sliding table.  I also have several spindles including the Router spindle.

Felder also makes a EURO-curve guard that is less money then the Bowmould but you can't use the Machine guides with the Felder.  From my understanding the Machine Guide with the Bowmould make for real safe operation.
 
Jalvis

Your shaper setup sounds identical to mine, my only real extravagance was the Power Drive option. You will find that your F-38 power feeder is one of a few power feeders that can be run in the vertical position.

I initially started out with the Felder Euro Curve Guard with machining guide and it worked OK. I had a curved fireplace mantle 4" thick by 10' long to make and needed a hood with a guide fast and inexpensive. I knew that when I eventually got the Bowmould that I could easily sell the Felder version.

I have been a member of the other FOG since 2007 when I got my first slider, A K500S, I have since upgraded to a K700S Pro.

Also sorry to Mauri as we've kind of hijacked your thread.

John

 
Mauri I have to agree with you about the other FOG, but it is what is. It doesn't have the factory backing that this site has. The information and help there has also been invaluable over the years.

John
 
Yeah, Sorry for Hijacking but your question has been answered so hopefully its not a bad diversion.

I'm still trying to figure out the FOG site.  I helped start the Mafell Users Forum which is a free site.  The host is a free forum provider.  Wish the FOG could move to that platform as I find it even easer than the Festool Owners Group to use.

My shaper doesn't have power drive but my AD741 does have Powerdrive which I'm grateful for.

I also have the K700S but not the Pro version which has the commercial over head guard.  Not sure if there is any other differences.

As for the F-38 being used vertically…..I can't think of an application?  Remember I'm new to Shapers.
 
Jalvis

The vertical operation of feeder will come in handy with any profile you can't run flat. The one that immediately come to mind beaded profiles for face frames or doors, another would be for trim applications. The consistency is a major + any time you can use a feeder. The power drive on the AD 741 is a definite plus. If I remember correctly the overhead guard is the difference between the S and the Pro. I'll never buy another slider without the overhead guard.

As far as the other FOG goes I really don't think Brian and John want the headache of setting a new website. Once you get setup to get the individual messages as emails and know how to navigate the pics on Yahoo its not as bad. The real plus is the broad range of knowledge across all machine and brands.

John
 
No worries, no bad diversion at all. Nice to discuss felder on an easy to handle forum  [tongue]
I have a F38 since a month or two and about to use it in its vertical position for a job shaping a floor trim profile that can not be run flat due to its shape and size 12X45mm. Interesting to hear you guys discussing a curve guard, it is something I have missed sometimes and therefore let someone else do those specific jobs for me. In my catalogue I remember finding two options for a curve guard, one sturdier made then the other. Curious about the specific one you have John, Felder Euro Curve Guard could revere to both options. (the sturdier, less sturdy) And what do you mean by machining guide?

Mauri
 
Mauri

Both Felder and Aigner make a curved shaper guard with a machining guide. Aigner makes a large and small version. The Aigner guards and guides are much more robust and made of cast aluminum versus plastic and small amounts of stamped aluminum from Felder. They also cost substantially more. The machining guide works much the same as a bearing on top of a router bit and is great for template work. See the links below.

http://tfzje.zqejf.servertrust.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=214+377+000+173+%2F+058-784-00

Once again if you can download the Aigner catalog you will see the machining guide setups.

Also when setting up the F-38 for vertical operation its not a bad idea to put a sheet of protective material on the shaper tabletop and slider, just in case the the feeder gets out of hand during setup. You will understand this comment more when you do your first setup.

John
 
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